Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbie questions

2006-05-26 Thread John W. Baxter
On 5/26/06 6:54 PM, "Mark Sapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You don't have to send email commands in the subject. The body is > processed too, but to answer your question, I don't feel uneasy about > sending a list member password. They are mailed in reminders and we > say not to use a valuable

Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbie questions

2006-05-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
Peter C.S. Adams wrote: >Thus spake Tom Wolfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, circa 5/26/2006 1:05 PM: >> 2. You can use email commands to retrieve the list of members by doing >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> From: (a subscriber's email address, pref. admin) >> Subject: who password [address=] > >This doesn't ap

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archived Messages Not Saved

2006-05-26 Thread Todd Zullinger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Charles J. Hargrove wrote: > I am using the FC5 Mailman package. The archive files since the new > build are being kept in /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/. That's good. What does $ ls /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/$listname* show? Also

Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbie questions

2006-05-26 Thread Peter CS Adams aka Tom
Hi Peter - In general, as this post suggests (pardon the liberties...!), Mailman isn't super-secure. For example, all it takes to impersonate you as a member posting is to know your email address. So encrypted passwords are the least concern, and I wouldn't use a very important password. Regarding

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archived Messages Not Saved

2006-05-26 Thread Charles J. Hargrove
I am using the FC5 Mailman package. The archive files since the new build are being kept in /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/. However, the /etc/httpd/conf.d/mailman.conf file shows it as: Alias /pipermail/ /var/lib/mailman/archives/public/ Where can I find where it is being forced to save

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic deletion of posts by non-members of a list

2006-05-26 Thread Peter C.S. Adams
Thus spake Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, circa 5/26/2006 2:03 AM: > Think about spam in general. Which is worse? Dealing with large > quantities of spam to try to find the relatively small amount of > legitimate mail? Or throwing everything away that might potentially > be spam, possibly inc

Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbie questions

2006-05-26 Thread Peter C.S. Adams
Thus spake Tom Wolfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, circa 5/26/2006 1:05 PM: > 2. You can use email commands to retrieve the list of members by doing > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > From: (a subscriber's email address, pref. admin) > Subject: who password [address=] This doesn't appear to work if there is a space

Re: [Mailman-Users] Permissions on public archives (apache 403)

2006-05-26 Thread Michael Berkowski
Hi Mark, You're right, SELinux is the cause. Disabling it allows access to the public archives. I'll have to find out if Red Hat has an updated security policy to deal with this, or I'll have to start rolling my own. Thanks again, Michael --- MINITEX Library Information Network / MnLINK Unive

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to test SpamAssassin with mailman?

2006-05-26 Thread Jana Nguyen
Hmm, I've been having problems for days not being able to send out mail with the spam header using postfix. I don't know if I want to go with amavisd at this point if I can't get a basic spamassassin integrated with mailman working. After integrating mailman with spamassassin I can't even sen

Re: [Mailman-Users] bounces are not disabling accounts

2006-05-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
Steve Quezadas wrote: >> >yeah, I see what went wrong. The probe is sending out a message, but >it's not bouncing back to qmail properly. I get the following message: >"sorry, no mailbox here by that name". It Seems to be trying to write to >"[EMAIL PROTECTED]". > > >I read the README.QMAIL file

Re: [Mailman-Users] Permissions on public archives (apache 403)

2006-05-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
Michael Berkowski wrote: > >SELinux is running and /var/lib/mailman looks like: >drwxrwsr-x 9 mailman mailman 4096 Apr 17 15:17 mailman I think it may involve the SeLinux security policies. You can check this out by temporarily turning off SeLinux. You can find information on this by searching t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archived Messages Not Saved

2006-05-26 Thread Todd Zullinger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Charles J. Hargrove wrote: > I recently had to rebuild my server after a long run of 6 years. > The drive that contained the Mailman archives, mailing lists, member > records, etc was mounted as the secondary drive so that I would not > lose the info.

[Mailman-Users] Archived Messages Not Saved

2006-05-26 Thread Charles J. Hargrove
I recently had to rebuild my server after a long run of 6 years. The drive that contained the Mailman archives, mailing lists, member records, etc was mounted as the secondary drive so that I would not lose the info. The server was rebuilt with Fedora Core 5 and the latest versions of the rest of

Re: [Mailman-Users] Permissions on public archives (apache 403)

2006-05-26 Thread Todd Zullinger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Berkowski wrote: >> What are the permissions on /var/lib/mailman? Are you running >> SeLinux or any other 'extra' access controls? > > SELinux is running and /var/lib/mailman looks like: > drwxrwsr-x 9 mailman mailman 4096 Apr 17 15:17 mailma

Re: [Mailman-Users] Permissions on public archives (apache 403)

2006-05-26 Thread Michael Berkowski
Hi again Mark, > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] httpd]# tail -n 4 error_log > > > >[Fri May 26 10:30:33 2006] [error] [client 160.94.15.144] (13)Permission > >denied: access to /pipermail/minitex-news denied > > > There is a permissions issue somewhere? > > > >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailman]# ls -l /var/lib

Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbie questions

2006-05-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
David Anderson wrote: > >1. What is the format for the upload file in mass subscription A plain text file with one entry per line, formatted as described in >2. Is it possible to get the reverse - i.e. a listing from one lis

Re: [Mailman-Users] Missing headers of postings

2006-05-26 Thread John W. Baxter
On 5/26/06 7:43 AM, "Roland Studer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Suddenly postings on our Mailman (2.1.5) list are missing headers, the > mails sometimes arrive without any Information about the sender or the > subject. The headers From and Reply-to and Subject are missing. > > In addition I want

Re: [Mailman-Users] follow up: help request: new 1300 member listresults inmostly bounces

2006-05-26 Thread Nathan
Mark, Todd, Brad, John, Thanks very much for your advice. It seems like we're dealing with an uninformed host here, and it would be an uphill battle all the way to get this thing working. While she will probably continuing the webhost, I think we'll look elsewhere for a mailing list option. It's

Re: [Mailman-Users] Missing headers of postings

2006-05-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
Roland Studer wrote: > >Itis really strange, actually sometimes I got the posting with correct >headers, while others got the very same posting without those headers. In that case, this almost certainly has to be something occurring after Mailman has sent the message to the outgoing MTA, either

Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbie questions

2006-05-26 Thread Tom Wolfe
1. Mass subscription format: "Real Name" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Real2 Name2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ...etc has worked for me. "Real Name" is optional, you can just put email addresses on each line, e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...etc 2. You can use email commands to retrieve the list of m

Re: [Mailman-Users] follow up: help request: new 1300 member list results inmostly bounces

2006-05-26 Thread John W. Baxter
On 5/25/06 11:13 PM, "Brad Knowles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mailman does intentionally add a header for "Precedence: Bulk" to > all outgoing messages, as is appropriate for the function that it is > performing. Actually, Precedence: list (As copied from the message I'm replying to.) This d

Re: [Mailman-Users] language encoding for archives

2006-05-26 Thread kristina clair
> >Sorry to ask such a vague question, but I'm just trying to get a > >handle on how messages with different character sets get into the > >archive pages. What factors could cause them to be displayed with the > >incorrect character set on the archive pages? > > > Incorrect character set specifica

[Mailman-Users] Newbie questions

2006-05-26 Thread David Anderson
Hi, My hosting company provides mailman for mailing lists. I am happy with the functionality, but I have two questions 1. What is the format for the upload file in mass subscription 2. Is it possible to get the reverse - i.e. a listing from one list that can then be massaged and used as the uploa

Re: [Mailman-Users] Missing headers of postings

2006-05-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
Roland Studer wrote: > >Suddenly postings on our Mailman (2.1.5) list are missing headers, the >mails sometimes arrive without any Information about the sender or the >subject. The headers From and Reply-to and Subject are missing. "Sometimes"? Not always? >In addition I wanted to send a HTML-E

Re: [Mailman-Users] Permissions on public archives (apache 403)

2006-05-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
Michael Berkowski wrote: > >Apache's error log shows this: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] httpd]# tail -n 4 error_log > >[Fri May 26 10:30:33 2006] [error] [client 160.94.15.144] (13)Permission >denied: access to /pipermail/minitex-news denied There is a permissions issue somewhere? >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] m

Re: [Mailman-Users] easy question on python regular expressions

2006-05-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
Steve Lindemann wrote: >Mark Sapiro wrote: >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >Thank you Mark! Given the examples I could find and all the variations I >tried I completely missed the trailing $ sign... *sigh* Well, that shouldn't matter too much. [EMAIL PROTECTED] will match all the same addresses.

Re: [Mailman-Users] language encoding for archives

2006-05-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
"kristina clair" wrote: > >What I'm still having a problem with is the display of some messages >on the archive pages. Some of the messages appear correctly in >cyrillic, but some of the messages do not. The archive menus and >headers, etc, appear with the correct character set - it is just the >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Permissions on public archives (apache 403)

2006-05-26 Thread Michael Berkowski
Hi Mark, Thanks for responding so quickly. > >All access attempts return: > >Forbidden > >You don't have permission to access /pipermail/x on this server. > >Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an > >ErrorDocument to handle the request. > >Apache/2.0.52 (

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic deletion of posts by non-members of a list

2006-05-26 Thread Christopher Adams
On 5/26/06, Christopher Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree in part. My site hosts over 500 lists and has about 100,000 > subscribers. By default, all new lists are set to Reject messages from > "non-members" and sends them a message indicating that either their address > has changed, they

Re: [Mailman-Users] easy question on python regular expressions

2006-05-26 Thread Steve Lindemann
Mark Sapiro wrote: > Steve Lindemann wrote: > >> I would like to use a regular >> expression to accept all email from a particular domain. >> >> ex: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Can someone >> out there *show* me what I need to use to accomplish the task. > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Thank you Mark

Re: [Mailman-Users] Permissions on public archives (apache 403)

2006-05-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
Michael Berkowski wrote: > >All access attempts return: >Forbidden >You don't have permission to access /pipermail/x on this server. >Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an >ErrorDocument to handle the request. >Apache/2.0.52 (Red Hat) Server xxx

[Mailman-Users] Permissions on public archives (apache 403)

2006-05-26 Thread Michael Berkowski
Hi All, I have seen many questions related to this in the archives, and from what I can tell, my configuration is complete and correct. But I cannot seem to get my public archives to be viewable. I wonder if someone knowledgeable could look over the following configs and point me in the right d

Re: [Mailman-Users] follow up: help request: new 1300 member listresults inmostly bounces

2006-05-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
Nathan wrote: >After getting some advice from the list - specifically Mark - last >week, I asked the hosting provider if there was in fact some limit on >outgoing mail, or some other setting on their end which might be >causing the bounces I'm getting. (see previous post for details, but >basi

Re: [Mailman-Users] language encoding for archives

2006-05-26 Thread kristina clair
> > If the list language is Ukranian, the character set should be utf-8. > One potential issue is that the web server can be overriding this with > its own Content-Transfer-Encoding: header that specifies something > other than utf-8. Hi, I am still having some trouble understanding encoding and

[Mailman-Users] Missing headers of postings

2006-05-26 Thread Roland Studer
Hi there Suddenly postings on our Mailman (2.1.5) list are missing headers, the mails sometimes arrive without any Information about the sender or the subject. The headers From and Reply-to and Subject are missing. In addition I wanted to send a HTML-Email with an attachment: It wasn't displayed

Re: [Mailman-Users] follow up: help request: new 1300 member list results inmostly bounces

2006-05-26 Thread Brad Knowles
At 11:23 PM -0400 2006-05-25, Nathan wrote: > They suggest sending out 10-15 emails at a time - is there a way to set > mailman up to do this? (and would there be a point?) I'm calling bull$#!+ on this one. First off, plenty of sites run Mailman-hosted mailing lists with thousands, te

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic deletion of posts by non-members of a list

2006-05-26 Thread Brad Knowles
At 5:32 PM -0400 2006-05-25, Peter C.S. Adams wrote: > In the old days, this was certainly true, but today, when 70-80% of all > emails on the internet are spam, you may easily find that rejecting all > those messages will (a) eat up a lot of your internet bandwidth, and (b) > exacerbate the p