Re: [Mailman-Users] "-owner" works, "-admin" doesn't...

2006-04-26 Thread Kris Wilk
Mark Sapiro wrote: > If the bounce is reported directly back to Mailman as a > reject at the SMTP level, there should be something in Mailman's > smtp-failure log. B-I-N-G-O (I think)! The smtp-failure log has entries like: Apr 27 01:20:09 2006 (12765) All recipients refused: {'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailing list disappear when press "save"

2006-04-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
Celes Victoria wrote: >hello there... >i got same problem with >http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2004/Jan/msg01683.html This apparently has to do with Apple's pre-installed Mailman on OS X server. The mailman-users list can offer very little help on this. See our FAQ article at

Re: [Mailman-Users] "-owner" works, "-admin" doesn't...

2006-04-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
Kris Wilk wrote: > >All filtering, spam control, etc. that I can disable has been disabled. It's not going to be on your side. Whatever it is is at the outgoing SMTP level on the Mailman server. >Is there any way to see exactly what message(s) Mailman is trying to >send that are bouncing? Is t

Re: [Mailman-Users] "-owner" works, "-admin" doesn't...

2006-04-26 Thread Kris Wilk
First of all, thanks again for your help. Although my problem isn't solved yet, you've given me a much better understanding of how Mailman works. Mark Sapiro wrote: > Check Mailman's bounce log (if you can). When you send to -admin there > should be an entry > > bounce message w/no discernabl

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can mm_cfg.py use includes?

2006-04-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I'm not terribly familiar with Python programming, and the only thing >I can find that's similar to what I want to do is the "import" >command. It's not working like I'd hoped because when I add a "from >vhosts_cfg import *" to mm_cfg.py, the Mailman web scripts ju

[Mailman-Users] Can mm_cfg.py use includes?

2006-04-26 Thread simba
Greetings... I'm installing a new virtual mail server using Debian Sarge, PostgreSQL, Postfix, Dovecot, Mailman, and PostfixAdmin. I'm trying to automate/tie as much of the administrative configuration into the PostfixAdmin web interface & PostgreSQL database as possible. The only thing in

[Mailman-Users] mailing list disappear when press "save"

2006-04-26 Thread Celes Victoria
hello there... i got same problem with http://lists.apple.com/archives/macos-x-server/2004/Jan/msg01683.html on my /usr/share/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'bemicom' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'bemicom' the administrator = bemicom administrator email = [EMAIL PROTECTED] user email = [EMA

Re: [Mailman-Users] Any easy way to remove one email address fromaqueued message?

2006-04-26 Thread Sam Cannell
On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 21:03 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Ultimately, you want to give the new file the same name as the old (the > name consists of a time and a hash and should be the right format), > and then move it to the out queue and Mailman will do the rest. Fantastic .. I'll have a play arou

Re: [Mailman-Users] Any easy way to remove one email address fromaqueued message?

2006-04-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
Sam Cannell wrote: > >I'd prefer to do it this way, however I haven't really worked much with >that side of mailman. I've looked around the mailman site for >information about the classes and functions I have access to through >withlist, but haven't had a lot of luck. Is there any documentation >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Any easy way to remove one email address from aqueued message?

2006-04-26 Thread Sam Cannell
On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 18:36 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Sam Cannell wrote: > > > >Our mail server is choking on a (syntactically incorrect) recipient > >address for a message in Mailman's queue. The message has been > > Step three. The hard way. If you are proficient with Python and > Mailman, use

Re: [Mailman-Users] "-owner" works, "-admin" doesn't...

2006-04-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
Kris Wilk wrote: > >Interesting idea...all I know for sure is that no matter what address I >use as the owner (I've also tried setting it to an off-site gmail >account), test mails of any format sent to "-admin" do not get to the owner. Mail sent to -admin doesn't go to the owner directly. It o

Re: [Mailman-Users] Any easy way to remove one email address from aqueued message?

2006-04-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
Sam Cannell wrote: > >Our mail server is choking on a (syntactically incorrect) recipient >address for a message in Mailman's queue. The message has been >delivered to some of the recipients, but Mailman keeps retrying this one >address and not continuing with the rest: Presumably, you are askin

Re: [Mailman-Users] "-owner" works, "-admin" doesn't...

2006-04-26 Thread Kris Wilk
Hi Mark, Thanks for the detailed info. Much appreciated. Mark Sapiro wrote: > Short answer... The -admin address is a synonym for the -bounces > address. I discovered this myself just now as I looked at the contents of the "admin" and "bounces" scripts in the scripts directory. > This leads me

Re: [Mailman-Users] List config files

2006-04-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
Tom Kavanaugh wrote: > >I would like to know where these individual mail list config files are >stored. >So I can just copy them over for the new lists. The list configuration, membership, etc. are stored as a Python pickle in lists//config.pck, but that is not what you want. Use 'bin/config_lis

Re: [Mailman-Users] "-owner" works, "-admin" doesn't...

2006-04-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
Kris Wilk wrote: >SHORT VERSION...sending to "-owner" gets delivered fine, but sending to >"-admin" gets vanishes (no bounce) and tallys a bounce count against the >owner address. What would cause this?? Short answer... The -admin address is a synonym for the -bounces address. >LONG VERSION.

[Mailman-Users] question about web archives for a very large number of lists.

2006-04-26 Thread Matt Doughty
I am currently maintaining a mailman install that has 5000+ lists, many high volume. The archive volume is nearly 80GB in size between the archives and mboxes for the various lists. Even after doing acrobatics to only archive the lists that have changed within the last 24hours it is extremely time

[Mailman-Users] Any easy way to remove one email address from a queued message?

2006-04-26 Thread Sam Cannell
Our mail server is choking on a (syntactically incorrect) recipient address for a message in Mailman's queue. The message has been delivered to some of the recipients, but Mailman keeps retrying this one address and not continuing with the rest: 2006-04-27 09:10:18 SMTP call from localhost (hostn

[Mailman-Users] List config files

2006-04-26 Thread Tom Kavanaugh
Hi, I am setting up a bunch of mail lists on mailman 2.1.7 running on RedHat Ent Linux ver 3. For the most part, these lists have the same custom config. They are all private lists, non-members can subscribe to the list, etc. I would like to know where these individual mail list config files a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can someone refresh my memory?

2006-04-26 Thread Tom Ray
Thanks, but I had already got it I was looking for Domainlist mm_lists=lists.listone.tld > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ] On Behalf Of John W. Baxter > Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 5:23 PM > To: Mailman Users > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users]

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can someone refresh my memory?

2006-04-26 Thread John W. Baxter
On 4/26/06 12:30 PM, "Tom Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Our mail server crashed and we didn't have a back up of the Exim > configuration file. We had some mailman lists running and I remember > there was a command I put up at the top on the configuration file but I > can't remember what is was

[Mailman-Users] announce list creation script

2006-04-26 Thread Matthew Clarkson
I have just completed a new announcement list script. I find that this is more complete and flexible than the current ones which I could find on the net. Also, unlike all the other scripts, this doesn't require bash (only sh), so it should be more cross platform, and save people from having t

[Mailman-Users] Can someone refresh my memory?

2006-04-26 Thread Tom Ray
Our mail server crashed and we didn't have a back up of the Exim configuration file. We had some mailman lists running and I remember there was a command I put up at the top on the configuration file but I can't remember what is was. Can someone refresh my memory? I believe it was something along

Re: [Mailman-Users] No Mailman web pages appear.

2006-04-26 Thread Patrick Bogen
> In a flurry of recycled electrons, Andy wrote: > > Thanks for your reply. The admin tried everything he could and it still does > > not work. He has virtual hosts, and he suspects that perhaps Mailman cannot > > work with virtual hosts, only with proper WWW servers. > > Can you please confirm? Th

[Mailman-Users] "-owner" works, "-admin" doesn't...

2006-04-26 Thread Kris Wilk
SHORT VERSION...sending to "-owner" gets delivered fine, but sending to "-admin" gets vanishes (no bounce) and tallys a bounce count against the owner address. What would cause this?? LONG VERSION... BACKGROUND: - I have an announcement-style Mailman list (let's call it LIST) - LIST is hosted

Re: [Mailman-Users] moderation bit via command line

2006-04-26 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 4/26/06, Matthew Clarkson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The closest thing I have found is on > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-February/042392.html > but I would like to stay away from using a python script like this if > possible. If you're using Mailman, I'm afraid you're al

[Mailman-Users] moderation bit via command line

2006-04-26 Thread Matthew Clarkson
Is there a way to set the moderation bit (on/off) for a user on a specific list by the command line? The closest thing I have found is on http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2005-February/042392.html but I would like to stay away from using a python script like this if possible. -- M

Re: [Mailman-Users] error install MM on MAC OS x

2006-04-26 Thread John W. Baxter
On 4/25/06 8:43 PM, "Mark Sapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You need to install the Apple Developer Tools package that is on the > Mac OS X CDs/DVDs that came with the computer or contained the OS > upgrade you have installed. If you don't have the CDs/DVDs, you can > download the Developer too

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive search?

2006-04-26 Thread Stephen R Laniel
On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 09:22:01AM -0400, Rosenbaum, Larry M. wrote: > Is there a way for users to search the Mailman list archives > (pipermail)? FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.011.htp -- Stephen R. Laniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: +(617) 308-5571 http://laniels

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive search?

2006-04-26 Thread Mark Sapiro
Rosenbaum, Larry M. wrote: >Is there a way for users to search the Mailman list archives >(pipermail)? See . -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter u

[Mailman-Users] Archive search?

2006-04-26 Thread Rosenbaum, Larry M.
Is there a way for users to search the Mailman list archives (pipermail)? Larry -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py