Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman under Cygwin - won't add list

2005-12-22 Thread Ben Discoe
Hi Mark, > >Right. Perhaps the trouble is that Apache runs outside of > >Cygwin (or more precisely, the trouble is that Mailman runs > >inside it :) > > This is the first time you mentioned Apache doesn't run under > Cygwin. I'm sure this adds a serious complication. Wow. I had no idea at al

Re: [Mailman-Users] editing archive template

2005-12-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Joe Mezzanini wrote: >How do I edit the archibve template? >Which is here (for me)? >http://maillist.themezz.com/pipermail/themezz-themezz.com/ See for instructions on editing templates in general. The particular template for

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman watchdog - status report

2005-12-22 Thread Brad Knowles
At 12:32 PM -0500 2005-12-22, Matt Emerson wrote: > if ps axw | grep -v grep | grep -v check-qrunner | grep qrunner >/dev/ If you want to clean this up and not spawn so many uses of grep, you can try something like the following: if ps axw | egrep 'q[r]unner' T

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman under Cygwin - won't add list

2005-12-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ben wrote: >Right. Perhaps the trouble is that Apache runs outside of Cygwin (or >more precisely, the trouble is that Mailman runs inside it :) although >Apache is simply executing a binary which is built and runs inside >Cygwin, so that must not be it. This is the first time you mentioned Apac

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman under Cygwin - won't add list

2005-12-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ben wrote: > >You mentioned that you _have_ seen it work with user 'Mark' and group >'None'. Do you have any record of what you passed to ./configure in >this case? Yes, but it won't help you because I run Apache under Cygwin, also as user Mark and group None. This comes out of a shell script th

[Mailman-Users] editing archive template

2005-12-22 Thread Joe Mezzanini
How do I edit the archibve template? Which is here (for me)? http://maillist.themezz.com/pipermail/themezz-themezz.com/ thanks, Joe -- http://cnyEats.com http://theMezz.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.pytho

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman under Cygwin - won't add list

2005-12-22 Thread Ben
Mark, > Well, apparantly Apache runs as group Administrators, so I'm > guessing that when Apache creates files, they will be created > with group Administrators. Right. Perhaps the trouble is that Apache runs outside of Cygwin (or more precisely, the trouble is that Mailman runs inside it :) a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman under Cygwin - won't add list

2005-12-22 Thread Ben
Mark, > Aha! Well, maybe that's the only functional workaround! I > will try re-configure and re-install with > "--with-mail-gid=None --with-cgi-gid=None > --with-groupname=None" and see if it gets further. To continue the story. I tried this, and web access produced the error that Apache i

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman under Cygwin - won't add list

2005-12-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ben wrote: >> Well, in my case, everything runs as user Mark and group None >> so everything is in the None group, and it works. > >Aha! Well, maybe that's the only functional workaround! I will try >re-configure and re-install with "--with-mail-gid=None >--with-cgi-gid=None --with-groupname=No

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman under Cygwin - won't add list

2005-12-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ben wrote: >> >> But that clearly isn't what's happening. What do you get from >> group Ben >> and >> group mailman > >I get "bash: group: command not found" Sorry, that should have been groups, not group >Now i tried setting mmsitepass, and giving the same value in the web >create inteface.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman under Cygwin - won't add list

2005-12-22 Thread Ben
> >So, as far as both Windows and Cygwin should be concerned, > >mailman _is_ in the Administrators group. > > But that clearly isn't what's happening. What do you get from > group Ben > and > group mailman I get "bash: group: command not found" > If they are in more than one group, I think fil

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman under Cygwin - won't add list

2005-12-22 Thread John Dennis
Ben wrote: >>The underlying problem here is Windows lack of support for >>setting effective user and group ids. This breaks all kinds >>of things that Mailman assumes about its environment. >> >> > >Yes, that's clear :) The question remaining is, is there any hope of >getting around it :( >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Seaching the contents of archives

2005-12-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Elvis Fernandes wrote: > >Is there a way that the contents of mailman archives can be made searchable? >Without mailman, the users could find/search for content using their mail >reader. > >There are private internal mail lists of the company, and I am looking at >ways to give the users a mailman/p

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman under Cygwin - won't add list

2005-12-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ben wrote: >> You need to run bin/newlist as mailman or some user in the >> Administrators group, not as Ben in group None. > >User 'Ben' and 'mailman' are both in the Administrators group. It is >cygwin that decides to display "None" as the file's group owner. I >assume this is just a limitati

Re: [Mailman-Users] filename too long error - stopping list

2005-12-22 Thread Tokio Kikuchi
Hi Michael, You can set Scrubber.py not to use the orginal filename in the message by adding followin line in mm_cfg.py (mailman-2.1.6 and above). SCRUBBER_DONT_USE_ATTACHMENT_FILENAME = True Developers, May be we should set this default in Defaults.py.in in the next release of 2.1.7. Thought

[Mailman-Users] Seaching the contents of archives

2005-12-22 Thread Elvis Fernandes
Hello, Is there a way that the contents of mailman archives can be made searchable? Without mailman, the users could find/search for content using their mail reader. There are private internal mail lists of the company, and I am looking at ways to give the users a mailman/pipermail search feature

Re: [Mailman-Users] Create mail list which user cannot un-subscribe

2005-12-22 Thread Elvis Fernandes
Thanks! That will take care of my requirement. Regards Elvis On 12/21/05, Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Elvis Fernandes wrote: > > > >I am trying to create a mail list where users DO NOT have the choice to > >un-subscribe. > >Is there a way that this can be accomplished in mailman?

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman under Cygwin - won't add list

2005-12-22 Thread Ben
> You need to run bin/newlist as mailman or some user in the > Administrators group, not as Ben in group None. User 'Ben' and 'mailman' are both in the Administrators group. It is cygwin that decides to display "None" as the file's group owner. I assume this is just a limitation of Cygwin. On

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman under Cygwin - won't add list

2005-12-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ben wrote: > >I have tried this. However, I get the exact same error as before: > >admin(704): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 591, >in __load >admin(704): fp = open(dbfile) >admin(704): IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: >'/usr/local/mailman/lists/friends/config.pck'

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman under Cygwin - won't add list

2005-12-22 Thread Ben
Mark, Thanks very much for continuing to try to help.. > >I tried explicitly forcing permissions with 'chmod 777 > >config.pck', and that made the Admin page work. So, the > >"660" permissions are the problem, not the owner/group. > >This seems to be a widespread issue with Mailman under Cygwin

Re: [Mailman-Users] Large mailing lists

2005-12-22 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 11:39:37AM -0600, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 10:01 AM -0500 2005-12-22, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > Ahh. In this case you might want to give me some identifying > information for your lists, because I updated FAQ 1.15 with the > information you had posted on the list, an

Re: [Mailman-Users] receiving list mail from account towhich mailcannot be delivered

2005-12-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Gary R. Webster wrote: > >Anywho, your comments on my #3 question, below, gets me to thinking. >I could have the 'config_list -i path/to/file/above' just run whenever, like >from cron, no ? >Even better, if there were some kind of 'trigger' to hook when a new list >is created from the web... You

Re: [Mailman-Users] /mailman/ part of URL

2005-12-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ronald Nissley wrote: >What needs to be changed in httpd.conf and/or mm_cfg.py so that my lists can >be accessed via http://lists.mydomain.tld instead of >http://lists.mydomain.tld/mailman? > >The relevant part of my httpd.conf: > >ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/ ScriptAlias / /u

Re: [Mailman-Users] receiving list mail from account towhich mail cannot be delivered

2005-12-22 Thread webster
Mark (& Dan (& others)), Thanks for the info. I figured my #1&2 question was available in the webgui somewhere, but I just didn't notice that 'Privacy options' expands. I [now] guess that's what the '...' is for, huh ? :-) Anywho, your comments on my #3 question, below, gets me to thinking. I

[Mailman-Users] /mailman/ part of URL

2005-12-22 Thread Ronald Nissley
What needs to be changed in httpd.conf and/or mm_cfg.py so that my lists can be accessed via http://lists.mydomain.tld instead of http://lists.mydomain.tld/mailman? The relevant part of my httpd.conf: ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/ AllowOverride None Options ExecCGI Order

Re: [Mailman-Users] problems with mailman and dyndns host

2005-12-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
fvgi242ss wrote: > >Several recipients get messages like this: > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 4:19 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [wlanhacking] Please be patient > > >What to

[Mailman-Users] problems with mailman and dyndns host

2005-12-22 Thread fvgi242ss
I run gissmoh.kicks-ass.net (dyndns) and mail.wlanhacking.de which is an alias to gissmoh.kicks-ass.net. I have existing CNAME/MX entries: mail.wlanhacking.de.CNAME gissmoh.kicks-ass.net *.wlanhacking.de. MX 100 gissmoh.kicks-ass.net wlanhacking.de. MX 1

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman under Cygwin - won't add list

2005-12-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ben wrote: > >I tried explicitly forcing permissions with 'chmod 777 config.pck', and >that made the Admin page work. So, the "660" permissions are the >problem, not the owner/group. However, when I tried the Admin page for >the list, I got "We're sorry, we hit a bug!" again: > >admin(4088): Fi

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman watchdog - status report

2005-12-22 Thread Matt Emerson
On Dec 21, 2005, at 4:02 PM, Con Wieland wrote: > I recently had some (more) problem's that Mark Shapiro helped me out > with. In that exchange I asked about a watchdog type program to help > in early problem detection. One thing we use here is a script that keeps an eye on the qrunners. They'v

Re: [Mailman-Users] Large mailing lists

2005-12-22 Thread Brad Knowles
At 10:01 AM -0500 2005-12-22, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > I knew things were going to sound like this when I came to the list, > and I do apologize. I agree 100%. The issue here is that the server > houses lists for a fairly high-profile television celebrity. You might > be suprised at the amo

Re: [Mailman-Users] filename too long error - stopping list

2005-12-22 Thread Michael Rasmussen
Resolved. The digest keeps a seperate mbox file at {MMDIR}lists/LISTNAME/digest.mbox removing the email from that location was the solution to my immediate problem. This does expose a DOS attack potential for MM lists. The too long attachment name needs to be handled in a more graceful manner

Re: [Mailman-Users] filename too long error - stopping list

2005-12-22 Thread Michael Rasmussen
Update: I've found the offending message and purged it from the list archives, purged it from the shunt files, and purged it from everywhere I could find it. Yet the problem persists. So I'm looking for the temp file/mail area where the file that contains this attachment may be found. Michael

Re: [Mailman-Users] Large mailing lists

2005-12-22 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > > At 10:46 PM -0500 2005-12-21, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > I'm working on the web developer to implement some better checks. It'd > be awesome if when we got a subscription request from a client, some code > made sure they didn't type [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Mailman-Users] Large mailing lists

2005-12-22 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 01:23:12AM -0600, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 10:46 PM -0500 2005-12-21, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > > One propety of these lists is that there is a high incidence of bad > > addresses - the developer of the web front end refuses to do any kind > > of validation before they are ad

[Mailman-Users] filename too long error - stopping list

2005-12-22 Thread Michael Rasmussen
I have a list that was sent a file with an attachement with too long a name. (See error below) now all mail to the list is being shunted. the filename listed does not exist on my system. There is no file on my system with that name. The directory /var/lib/mailman/archives/private/rca-l/attac

Re: [Mailman-Users] Large mailing lists

2005-12-22 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 10:26:50PM -0600, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 5:40 PM -0500 2005-12-21, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > > > I've got some questions on a mailman server that's currently > > performing non-optimally. > > If you've got a large list, the first thing you need to do is to > search

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman under Cygwin - won't add list

2005-12-22 Thread Ben
Thanks Mark, the source code change you gave me made it work: I was able to use newlist, and it completed successfully! However, when I attempt to connect to the Admin page (http://localhost/mailman/admin.exe) it says: "Bug in Mailman version 2.1.6 We're sorry, we hit a bug! ... the webmaster ca