Re: [Mailman-Users] Fwd: NDN: [Users]Skypecouldposesecurityproblemsfor companies, analysts say

2005-11-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jared Rimer wrote: >Understood, but what address would I be using for the bounce on the >address that I'd use for the [EMAIL PROTECTED] Confused. The issue here is that even humans have a hard time parsing the message you received. If I had to guess, and that's all it would be in this case, I'd

Re: [Mailman-Users] Fwd: NDN: [Users]Skypecouldposesecurityproblems for companies, analysts say

2005-11-08 Thread Jared Rimer
Understood, but what address would I be using for the bounce on the address that I'd use for the [EMAIL PROTECTED] Confused. At 21:21 11/8/2005, you wrote: >Jared Rimer wrote: > > >I don't understand the second paragraph. > > > >At 20:26 11/8/2005, you wrote: > >>Jared Rimer wrote: > >> > >> >Wo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Tangential Delivery Question

2005-11-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
David Hwang wrote: >I know this is probably tangential to the purpose of the list, but > >people here have been very friendly and helpful in my quest to get >mailman up and running on my Trustix system. > >I was following the mail delivery logs and came across some odd errors >that I'm hoping so

[Mailman-Users] Tangential Delivery Question

2005-11-08 Thread David Hwang
I know this is probably tangential to the purpose of the list, but people here have been very friendly and helpful in my quest to get mailman up and running on my Trustix system. I was following the mail delivery logs and came across some odd errors that I'm hoping someone can help me decipher

Re: [Mailman-Users] Fwd: NDN: [Users]Skypecouldposesecurityproblems for companies, analysts say

2005-11-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jared Rimer wrote: >I don't understand the second paragraph. > >At 20:26 11/8/2005, you wrote: >>Jared Rimer wrote: >> >> >Would the Eudora redirect work? >> >>It might. It removes a bunch of headers and replaces others and rewraps >>the message body, but it might work. You could try it, but you'd

Re: [Mailman-Users] Fwd: NDN: [Users] Skypecouldposesecurityproblems for companies, analysts say

2005-11-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jared Rimer wrote: >Would the Eudora redirect work? It might. It removes a bunch of headers and replaces others and rewraps the message body, but it might work. You could try it, but you'd never know if it worked or not, since if the bounce were unrecognized, it would just go to the list owner as

Re: [Mailman-Users] Fwd: NDN: [Users] Skypecouldposesecurityproblems for companies, analysts say

2005-11-08 Thread Jared Rimer
I don't understand the second paragraph. At 20:26 11/8/2005, you wrote: >Jared Rimer wrote: > > >Would the Eudora redirect work? > >It might. It removes a bunch of headers and replaces others and rewraps >the message body, but it might work. You could try it, but you'd never >know if it worked or

Re: [Mailman-Users] Fwd: NDN: [Users] Skype couldposesecurityproblems for companies, analysts say

2005-11-08 Thread Jared Rimer
Would the Eudora redirect work? At 18:07 11/8/2005, you wrote: >Jared Rimer wrote: > > >Let me try again. The mailing list is [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I > >send to that list, I get the message I sent to this list back. > > >Sorry, I misunderstood. I thought the message you posted came back when >y

Re: [Mailman-Users] Fwd: NDN: [Users] Skype couldposesecurityproblems for companies, analysts say

2005-11-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jared Rimer wrote: >Let me try again. The mailing list is [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I >send to that list, I get the message I sent to this list back. Sorry, I misunderstood. I thought the message you posted came back when you emailed [EMAIL PROTECTED] >I >snet the message to mail over to [EMA

Re: [Mailman-Users] Fwd: NDN: [Users] Skype could posesecurityproblems for companies, analysts say

2005-11-08 Thread Jared Rimer
Let me try again. The mailing list is [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I send to that list, I get the message I sent to this list back. I snet the message to mail over to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to alert them to this. No response. Is there another address like [EMAIL PROTECTED] that I should be sending th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Slow Outgoing Queue

2005-11-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
Harold Paulson wrote: > >Each .pck is a separate email message (to one recipient)? Or each one >is a separate post with many recipients? Is 80-100 items in queue/out >a lot? Each .pck is a message. it could be a post in which case it identifies all the recipients in one .pck or it could be so

Re: [Mailman-Users] Fwd: NDN: [Users] Skype could posesecurityproblems for companies, analysts say

2005-11-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jared Rimer wrote: >So, I would have to redirect it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for example then? > in response to: >> >>Unfortunately, these non-compliant servers abound. There's nothing you >>can do about it other than possibly redirecting it to the appropriate >>-bounces' address at the site you mail

Re: [Mailman-Users] Slow Outgoing Queue

2005-11-08 Thread Harold Paulson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark, >> As you can see, nearly an hour elapsed between the time the message >> was >> approved by a list moderator, and the time Mailman *started* delivery. >> I would not expect that the MTA is involved in that part of the >> process, at all. > > >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Fwd: NDN: [Users] Skype could pose securityproblems for companies, analysts say

2005-11-08 Thread Jared Rimer
So, I would have to redirect it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for example then? At 13:19 11/8/2005, you wrote: >Jared Rimer wrote: > > > I had sent this to the list owners of the particular list > >I'm subscribed to that generates this message, but why is it coming > >back to me instead of mailman?

Re: [Mailman-Users] Slow Outgoing Queue

2005-11-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
Harold Paulson wrote: > >On Nov 8, 2005, at 12:19 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >[deletia] > >> Visit the FAQ wizard >>> Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py >> and search for performance. > >I am familiar with the optimization tips in the excellent FAQ, and have >used them in the past

Re: [Mailman-Users] Slow Outgoing Queue

2005-11-08 Thread Harold Paulson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark, Thank you for your quick reply. On Nov 8, 2005, at 12:19 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: [deletia] > Visit the FAQ wizard >> Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > and search for performance. I am familiar with the optimization tips

Re: [Mailman-Users] Fwd: NDN: [Users] Skype could pose securityproblems for companies, analysts say

2005-11-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jared Rimer wrote: > I had sent this to the list owners of the particular list >I'm subscribed to that generates this message, but why is it coming >back to me instead of mailman? >>X-Persona: >>X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on wmailapp7-l3.webley >>X-Spam-Leve

Re: [Mailman-Users] post a message to list, but no response

2005-11-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
Andy Gao wrote: > >I am new to mailman. I installed mailman2.1.6 on my fedora core 3 machine >from source. I used sendmail8.13.1-2 as MTA. > >I set up a new list, say [EMAIL PROTECTED], and I can subscribe to the list >and I also get the mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to confirm my subscrision. Do y

[Mailman-Users] Fwd: NDN: [Users] Skype could pose security problems for companies, analysts say

2005-11-08 Thread Jared Rimer
Hi all, I had sent this to the list owners of the particular list I'm subscribed to that generates this message, but why is it coming back to me instead of mailman? >X-Persona: >X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on wmailapp7-l3.webley >X-Spam-Level: >X-Spam-Status:

Re: [Mailman-Users] post a message to list, but no response

2005-11-08 Thread Andy Gao
Hi, I am new to mailman. I installed mailman2.1.6 on my fedora core 3 machine from source. I used sendmail8.13.1-2 as MTA. I set up a new list, say [EMAIL PROTECTED], and I can subscribe to the list and I also get the mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to confirm my subscrision. But when I submit a mes

Re: [Mailman-Users] Slow Outgoing Queue

2005-11-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
Harold Paulson wrote: > >I am having trouble with a slow outgoing queue. I am running Mailman >2.1.6 on FreeBSD 4.11. > > >Any idea what is causing the holdup for outgoing messages? Any tips >that will help me trace this down? Thanks in advance. Visit the FAQ wizard >Mailman FAQ: http://www

[Mailman-Users] Slow Outgoing Queue

2005-11-08 Thread Harold Paulson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I am having trouble with a slow outgoing queue. I am running Mailman 2.1.6 on FreeBSD 4.11. Here is an example of a slow email traced through Mailman's logs: At 10:18, a message is sent to the moderated "students" list I host, and held: lo

Re: [Mailman-Users] HELP, using WIN XP Pro, Admin panel problems

2005-11-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
Bob Bales wrote: >I am a novice at this, so be easy. I am running mailman for a friend of >mine. I loaded it from the cpanel of the host. The message system seems to >be working fine. The Admin Panel is giving me fits. I can sign in and make a >change, when I press to submit the changes it takes m

[Mailman-Users] HELP, using WIN XP Pro, Admin panel problems

2005-11-08 Thread Bob Bales
I am a novice at this, so be easy. I am running mailman for a friend of mine. I loaded it from the cpanel of the host. The message system seems to be working fine. The Admin Panel is giving me fits. I can sign in and make a change, when I press to submit the changes it takes me back to the sign in

Re: [Mailman-Users] Majordomo to mailman

2005-11-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
Lyn Rees wrote: > >We have around 3000 lists in majordomo at the moment, but are due to >change to mailman. We will run the two services side by side for a while >if we need to, however we will need to migrate lists somehow either in >one big bang or as we receive requests to do so. > >Are there an

Re: [Mailman-Users] SPAM Control

2005-11-08 Thread Mark Sapiro
Chris Barnes wrote: > >I guess what I am asking is for a way to be MM to process a >.procmailrc - specific to each list - before distributing to the list. I think header_filter_rules is lacking one thing that would allow your simply dropping your procmail recipes directly in, and that is the fact

[Mailman-Users] [OTAnn] Feedback

2005-11-08 Thread shenanigans
I was interested in getting feedback from current mail group users. We have mirrored your mail list in a new application that provides a more aggregated and safe environment which utilizes the power of broadband. Roomity.com v 1.5 is a web 2.01 community webapp. Our newest version adds broadcas

[Mailman-Users] Majordomo to mailman

2005-11-08 Thread Lyn Rees
Hi, I'm sure this has been asked before but I couldn't find anything recent anywhere. We have around 3000 lists in majordomo at the moment, but are due to change to mailman. We will run the two services side by side for a while if we need to, however we will need to migrate lists somehow either i

Re: [Mailman-Users] SPAM Control

2005-11-08 Thread Chris Barnes
Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you want mailman to deal with it, you can use header_filter_rules > to recognize the headers and act accordingly, but why not just delete > the spam before it gets to mailman? That would be fine for MailMan, but not for everyone else (MM exists on the

Re: [Mailman-Users] web interface tuning

2005-11-08 Thread Darich Runyan/OMNI INFOSEC HQ
Mark, Users was probably not the best term to use. I was speaking of nefarious bad-doers. I did not want to have anything internet facing that allowed for any type of administration. Your discussion was very helpful and I believe that I know how I am going configure it, well, attempt to