Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender modification

2004-05-11 Thread Richard Barrett
On 12 May 2004, at 02:48, Lloyd F. Tennison wrote: I'm going to ask why it is there at all? Look under head "3.6.2. Originator fields" of RFC 2822. The relevant portion says: The "Sender:" field specifies the mailbox of the agent responsible for the actual transmission of the message.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Send to list error

2004-05-11 Thread Richard Barrett
On 12 May 2004, at 02:39, Brian York wrote: Here is something odd aswell i tried tried to send this message to your address @iwu.edu and got the same message relaying is prohibited. _ I have this in both files. DEFAULT_URL_HOST = '10.20.1.163' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = '10.20.1.163' Thi

Re: [Mailman-Users] More on news server errors

2004-05-11 Thread Richard Barrett
On 12 May 2004, at 01:33, Con Wieland wrote: My problem is I get the following error: May 11 14:55:01 2004 (23921) error opening connection to nntp_host: (146, 'Connection refused') It looks like Mailman is trying to connect to my newserver on port 146 if I'm reading this right. You are not. Th

Re: [Mailman-Users] generalized specs question

2004-05-11 Thread texas critter
Lloyd F. Tennison wrote: > Depends on whether personalized and the size of the emails. I scan > usually send 20,000 - 40,000 personalized, 10-15k in under two hours. > It also depends on how clean your list is. The more bad addresses the > longer it takes. and the more Yahoo and Hotmail address

Re: [Mailman-Users] generalized specs question

2004-05-11 Thread Lloyd F. Tennison
Depends on whether personalized and the size of the emails. I scan usually send 20,000 - 40,000 personalized, 10-15k in under two hours. It also depends on how clean your list is. The more bad addresses the longer it takes. Date sent: Mon, 10 May 2004 16:51:51 -0500 (CDT) Fro

Re: [Mailman-Users] Is email merge supported?

2004-05-11 Thread Lloyd F. Tennison
Only in headers and footers. Don't I wish it were not so From: "JP Grobler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date sent: Tue, 11 May 2004 14:57:58 +0200 Subject:[Mailman-Users] Is email merge supported? > Hi

Re: [Mailman-Users] editing From line in anonymous list

2004-05-11 Thread Lloyd F. Tennison
You could always hard code it - I think it would be in CookHeaders. Date sent: Tue, 11 May 2004 17:25:48 -0400 From: Ari Jort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[Mailman-Users] editing From line in anonymous list >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender modification

2004-05-11 Thread Lloyd F. Tennison
I'm going to ask why it is there at all? I just checked over 50 messages and the only ones I have with the Sender and the Errors headers are those from Mailman. If there are to be RFC compliant - why does no one else have them? (Errors I am guessing are for Mailman - but since it does not rea

Re: [Mailman-Users] Send to list error

2004-05-11 Thread Brian York
Here is something odd aswell i tried tried to send this message to your address @iwu.edu and got the same message relaying is prohibited. _ I have this in both files. DEFAULT_URL_HOST = '10.20.1.163' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = '10.20.1.163' This address is just for testing purposes int

Re: [Mailman-Users] Send to list error

2004-05-11 Thread Brian York
I tried it with brackets and still get the same error. I can ping the mailman server from the mailserver (nkuaxp.nku.edu). In the error it strips off the brackets. From nkuaxp: Sending failed: Message sending failed since the following recipients were rejected by the server: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Mailman-Users] More on news server errors

2004-05-11 Thread Con Wieland
My problem is I get the following error: May 11 14:55:01 2004 (23921) error opening connection to nntp_host: (146, 'Connection refused') It looks like Mailman is trying to connect to my newserver on port 146 if I'm reading this right. My *nix host is set to nntp on port 119. Port 119 does appea

[Mailman-Users] lists.org is down?

2004-05-11 Thread David Bear
anyone else getting connection refused when going to lists.org? I was hoping to find some good readme's about mailman... but since I'm in my mailer.. I would like mailman to hand 'send only' lists, ie something like the listserve distribute job with old listserve software. This is where you could

[Mailman-Users] editing From line in anonymous list

2004-05-11 Thread Ari Jort
I have a list with the anonymous_list field set to Yes because we want to rewrite the From and Reply-To headers. The result of this setting is that the From: line contains the list email address e.g.: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] However, I would like to have that From line look like this: From: M

Re: [Mailman-Users] news server errors

2004-05-11 Thread Brad Knowles
At 2:12 PM -0700 2004/05/11, Con Wieland wrote: I'm getting errors from the 'fromusenet' logs May 11 14:10:02 2004 (23563) error opening connection to nntp_host: (146, 'Connection refused') does anyone know how to find out which lists are configured for usenet news exchanges? Go to "Mail<->

Re: [Mailman-Users] time stamp in logs

2004-05-11 Thread Brad Knowles
At 1:08 PM -0400 2004/05/11, Al Black wrote: I didn't see anything in the FAQ about this, so I thought I'd check here. Is there a way to configure mailman so that its log entries can be written in GMT rather than the local server time? This is something that you set within your OS. You can s

[Mailman-Users] news server errors

2004-05-11 Thread Con Wieland
Hello I'm getting errors from the 'fromusenet' logs May 11 14:10:02 2004 (23563) error opening connection to nntp_host: (146, 'Connection refused') does anyone know how to find out which lists are configured for usenet news exchanges? TIA Con Wieland Network and Academic Computing UC Irvine ---

Re: [Mailman-Users] time stamp in logs

2004-05-11 Thread Al Black
On Tuesday 11 May 2004 13:08, Al Black wrote: > Hi gang, > > I didn't see anything in the FAQ about this, so I thought I'd check here. > Is there a way to configure mailman so that its log entries can be written > in GMT rather than the local server time? Got it. The easiest solution is to chang

Re: [Mailman-Users] using mailman and news

2004-05-11 Thread Kai Schaetzl
David Bear wrote on Mon, 10 May 2004 16:53:11 -0700: > I would like to setup a mail list that is threaded like a news group. > What exactly do you mean? Threading is done by the client and good clients do good threading in mail *and* news. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at

Re: [Mailman-Users] Send to list error

2004-05-11 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Brian York wrote on Mon, 10 May 2004 22:33:44 -0400: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > There's your answer, that's not a valid domain or email address. Try with [] brackets around the IP. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com IE-Center

Re: [Mailman-Users] Skipping Mailscanner for list mail

2004-05-11 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Paul H Byerly wrote on Mon, 10 May 2004 20:36:00 -0500: > Using the default - SMTPDirect. > Hm, there goes my theory ;-) 1. check if the exclusion rules work for you at all, f.i. exclude one of your machines and then send a mail from it to you. 2. check the headers of the mailing list mails for

[Mailman-Users] time stamp in logs

2004-05-11 Thread Al Black
Hi gang, I didn't see anything in the FAQ about this, so I thought I'd check here. Is there a way to configure mailman so that its log entries can be written in GMT rather than the local server time? thanks in advance al -- Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] Enabling lock logging

2004-05-11 Thread John Poltorak
On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 06:19:16PM +0200, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 4:13 PM +0100 2004/05/11, John Poltorak wrote: > > > It was suggested that I may get round aproblem I'm having with Mailman if > > I - 'enable the lock logging'... > > > > Can anyone suggest how I do that? > > From Defaul

Re: [Mailman-Users] generalized specs question

2004-05-11 Thread Brad Knowles
At 4:51 PM -0500 2004/05/10, Pat Riehecky wrote: The site where I work is considering replacing our current listprocessor (ListProc 6.0c) with either Mailman or Majordomo. So I was going to as a benchmarking type question, what sort of a system would be required to run 100 lists each sending

Re: [Mailman-Users] Enabling lock logging

2004-05-11 Thread Brad Knowles
At 4:13 PM +0100 2004/05/11, John Poltorak wrote: It was suggested that I may get round aproblem I'm having with Mailman if I - 'enable the lock logging'... Can anyone suggest how I do that? From Defaults.py: # Set this to On to turn on MailList object lock debugging messages, which # will be

Re: [Mailman-Users] how to arrange a list with 'affiliate' members

2004-05-11 Thread Barnaby Scott
Thanks for your reply. This was a solution I considered, but as you point out, members of one list do not have an automatic right to post to a 'sub-list'. As the moderator, I really do not want the job of subscribing/unsubscribing people to the extra list. As for the Reply-To munging, you make so

Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender modification

2004-05-11 Thread Richard Barrett
Right near the end of http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq02.003.htp you will find details of a hack to the MM source code for MM 2.1.x which changes the Sender: header value from listname-bounces to listname, while leaving the envelope sender as listname-bounces for

[Mailman-Users] generalized specs question

2004-05-11 Thread Pat Riehecky
The site where I work is considering replacing our current listprocessor (ListProc 6.0c) with either Mailman or Majordomo. So I was going to as a benchmarking type question, what sort of a system would be required to run 100 lists each sending out 100 emails a day? Obviously a 486 /can/ do it, bu

[Mailman-Users] Is email merge supported?

2004-05-11 Thread JP Grobler
Hi Can names etc be merged into emails? Thanks JP --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.681 / Virus Database: 443 - Release Date: 10/05/2004 -- Mailman-Users mailing

RE: [Mailman-Users] True anonymous list?

2004-05-11 Thread Michael Balamuth
Thanks to all who suggested alternatives. I finally succeeded by rewriting the headers at the qmail/alias end via a custom perl script filter and then scrapped the whole thing. It wasn't that it didn't work, but it was too too much like creating a spam environment. We originally wanted an inter

Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender modification

2004-05-11 Thread Brad Knowles
At 4:54 PM +0200 2004/05/11, cedric gross wrote: Is there a way to change the sender of mail (i.e. mailman-user-bounce) with something more humain like : The Mailman User list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]) ? You can go throughout the Mailman code and change listname-bounces to whatever you want, but th

[Mailman-Users] Enabling lock logging

2004-05-11 Thread John Poltorak
It was suggested that I may get round aproblem I'm having with Mailman if I - 'enable the lock logging'... Can anyone suggest how I do that? Is it a build option or something specified at runtime? -- John -- Mailman-Users mailing list [E

[Mailman-Users] Sender modification

2004-05-11 Thread cedric gross
Hello, Is there a way to change the sender of mail (i.e. mailman-user-bounce) with something more humain like : The Mailman User list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]) ? Or must I do it by canonical rewriting ? Cedric -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL P

[Mailman-Users] mailman 2.1.4 + postfix 2.0.16

2004-05-11 Thread cedric gross
Hello, I'm not sure but it's seems that email sent to mailman is a VIRTUAL address what have you in virtual-mailman file ? Obviously, I don't use that but I configured a virtual domain : listes.youdomain.ltd that I registered in my transport table as next hop to "mailman" I configured in master.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Selecting different language (by URL) for listinfo

2004-05-11 Thread Jim Tittsler
On May 11, 2004, at 07:22, Steve Williams wrote: I have enabled French as an alternate language, and they can select it in the drop-down box in the upper right corner. Is there anyway to select the language to display in through the URL? Somethink like... http://www.mydomain.com/mailman/listin

Re: [Mailman-Users] how to arrange a list with 'affiliate' members

2004-05-11 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
> "Barnaby" == Barnaby Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Barnaby> I am trying to configure a list or group of lists to Barnaby> exhibit the following behaviour, but have been having Barnaby> trouble: Barnaby> I run a list called 'discuss', which is a discussion list Barnab