Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives page not found (Noob.Q)

2003-01-27 Thread Tokio Kikuchi
Make sure bin/check_perms doesn't give any problems (just to rule that out). That came up clean almost from the start... just a couple snafus the first time and clean after. Now, however... [root@mail mailman]# /usr/local/mailman/bin/check_perms -f bash: /usr/local/mailman/bin/check_perms: @

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives page not found (Noob.Q)

2003-01-27 Thread Keith Mastin
> Alias /pipermail/ "/web/mlib/data/mailman/archives/public/" Options FollowSymLinks > >Options Indexes FollowSymLinks Nope... not that simple either. Need to know what to index and spec that in the conf file too... Here's what I have now: index.htm index.php ind

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives page not found (Noob.Q)

2003-01-27 Thread Keith Mastin
Hi Matthew, >> >> Alias /pipermail/ "/web/mlib/data/mailman/archives/public/" >> >> >> >> >> >> Options FollowSymLinks >> >> AllowOverride None >> >> Order allow,deny >> >> Allow from all >> >> >> >> >> > >> >Alias /pipermail/ /var/mailman/archives/p

Re: [Mailman-Users] MS Exchange as a relay computer?

2003-01-27 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Bob Puff@NLE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I second the recommendation NOT to use Exchange as your mail transport agent. > If you've got a DNS server (even your MS box, shiver me timbers) that's only > a couple milliseconds away, you're not going to see any noticeable performance > hit, especially if

Re: [Mailman-Users] MS Exchange as a relay computer?

2003-01-27 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Angel Gabriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The reason I was going to do this, is because I don't really want to > have two DNS servers on the same subnet, and email being sent by a > machine with local DNS, is going to send faster that a machine that has > to wait for DNS queries to be answered. a) Y

[Mailman-Users] Re: Bundling HTDIG

2003-01-27 Thread Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED]
While I can understand why one might not want to bundle HTDIG with Mailman, I do think it is entirely appropriate to integrade the HTDIG patches into Mailman, making the adding of HTDIG much easier. Especially since the patch author has made the patch such that the default usage does not affect no

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bundle Htdig with Pipermail? -was- How to deletemessages from private archives

2003-01-27 Thread Greg Westin
I agree. htdig and python are both on the redhat cd's. I fear that htdig will become part of the mailman package as pipermail is. I really don't know much about this stuff, but two thoughts: -Not all of us use redhat. So what is or isn't on the redhat cds shouldn't be a deciding factor in de

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bundle Htdig with Pipermail? -was- How to deletemessages from private archives

2003-01-27 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "MD" == Matthew Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MD> -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman2 mailman2 5466939 Dec 30 23:55 MD> mailman-2.1.tgz Eventually, I want to split Mailman into a sumo distro and a lite distro, where the latter includes just the English distro. -Barry --

[Mailman-Users] Re: Bundle Htdig with Pipermail? -was- How to delete messages fromprivate archives

2003-01-27 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "JC" == Jon Carnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: JC> Is there a reason you wouldn't want to simply include Htdig as JC> part of the "out of the box" install? If we bundle it with Mailman, we're making a commitment to maintain it. JC> Are you thinking that we can port ht://dig ov

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bundle Htdig with Pipermail? -was- How to deletemessages from private archives

2003-01-27 Thread Matthew Davis
* Steve Huston ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Matthew Davis wrote: > > > * Jon Carnes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > Is there a reason you wouldn't want to simply include Htdig as part of > > > the "out of the box" install? > > My concern is the size of the package. > > Thats

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bundle Htdig with Pipermail? -was- How to deletemessages from private archives

2003-01-27 Thread Steve Huston
[Trimming CCs down to just the list] On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Matthew Davis wrote: > * Jon Carnes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Is there a reason you wouldn't want to simply include Htdig as part of > > the "out of the box" install? > My concern is the size of the package. > Thats a good chunk, and

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives page not found (Noob.Q)

2003-01-27 Thread Tokio Kikuchi
Alias /pipermail/ "/web/mlib/data/mailman/archives/public/" Options FollowSymLinks Options Indexes FollowSymLinks problem. Here's a line from error_log: [Mon Jan 27 18:57:32 2003] [error] [client 216.138.194.32] Directory index forbidden by rule: /web/mlib/data/mailman/archiv

Re: [Mailman-Users]

2003-01-27 Thread Matthew Davis
* Jeff Martin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Can all list administration with mailman be accomplished with email > directives > or do you need the web interface for some of it? Not all, but some. The web interface is very slick and well done. > Is it possible to have the option to archive email me

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives page not found (Noob.Q)

2003-01-27 Thread Matthew Davis
* Keith Mastin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 20:53, Keith Mastin wrote: > > > >> > >> Alias /pipermail/ "/web/mlib/data/mailman/archives/public/" > >> > >> > >> Options FollowSymLinks > >> AllowOverride None > >> Order allow,deny > >>

[Mailman-Users]

2003-01-27 Thread Jeff Martin
Hello. Can all list administration with mailman be accomplished with email directives or do you need the web interface for some of it? Is it possible to have the option to archive email messages to my web server so that they would be available online for anyone? Is mailman compatible with RedHat

Re: [Mailman-Users] text only in attachment -Noob.Q

2003-01-27 Thread Keith Mastin
>Can you include a sample email to the list? >I'm curious if the problem is the Content Filter (look in the >web-admin). > >Jon Carnes Web-admin? How would I look there, do you mean on the stuff we see in a browser, or in the code that makes the page? Okay, here's the test message, headers firs

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives page not found (Noob.Q)

2003-01-27 Thread Keith Mastin
>Below is one of my working ones (for pipermail). It is very similar to >yours, just without the quotation marks. > >HtH - Jon Carnes > >On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 20:53, Keith Mastin wrote: > >> >> Alias /pipermail/ "/web/mlib/data/mailman/archives/public/" >> >> >> Options FollowSy

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives page not found (Noob.Q)

2003-01-27 Thread Jon Carnes
Below is one of my working ones (for pipermail). It is very similar to yours, just without the quotation marks. HtH - Jon Carnes On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 20:53, Keith Mastin wrote: > > Alias /pipermail/ "/web/mlib/data/mailman/archives/public/" > > > Options FollowSymLinks >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives page not found (Noob.Q)

2003-01-27 Thread Matthew Davis
* Keith Mastin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Alias /pipermail/ "/web/mlib/data/mailman/archives/public/" I don't know if this is even possiable. But the only setup difference between yours and mine is the quotes around the dir. Alias /pipermail/ /home/mailman2/archives/public/ Just a stab in

Re: [Mailman-Users] create a new list (web interface) + qmailaliases

2003-01-27 Thread Jon Carnes
How about using a small script that is kicked off every 5 minutes via a cron job? Something like this (that looks at the last time the ~mailman/lists directory was modified)... LDT1=`ls -ld /usr/local/mailman/lists` LDT2=`cat /usr/local/mailman/checklist LDT 2>/dev/null` if [ "$LDT1" = "$LD

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bundle Htdig with Pipermail? -was- How to deletemessages from private archives

2003-01-27 Thread Matthew Davis
* Jon Carnes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Is there a reason you wouldn't want to simply include Htdig as part of > the "out of the box" install? My concern is the size of the package. -rw-rw-r--1 mailman2 mailman2 5466939 Dec 30 23:55 mailman-2.1.tgz Thats a good chunk, and adding htdig (ta

RE: [Mailman-Users] MS Exchange as a relay computer?

2003-01-27 Thread Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I second the recommendation NOT to use Exchange as your mail transport agent. If you've got a DNS server (even your MS box, shiver me timbers) that's only a couple milliseconds away, you're not going to see any noticeable performance hit, especially if it's on your local lan. I've found that by f

Re: [Mailman-Users] text only in attachment -Noob.Q

2003-01-27 Thread Jon Carnes
Can you include a sample email to the list? I'm curious if the problem is the Content Filter (look in the web-admin). Jon Carnes On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 20:22, Keith Mastin wrote: > This is my first mailman implmentation. > System: redhat-7.3 > smtp: postfix-1.1.7-2 > imapd:

[Mailman-Users] Bundle Htdig with Pipermail? -was- How to delete messages fromprivate archives

2003-01-27 Thread Jon Carnes
I agree that having Pipermail install "out of the box" with Mailman is a definite plus. Htdig is rapidly becoming a very popular add-on to those dynamic Duo (helped along by the great work that Richard Barrett does in keeping the patches up-to-date!). Is there a reason you wouldn't want to simply

[Mailman-Users] Archives page not found (Noob.Q)

2003-01-27 Thread Keith Mastin
Hello again. Testing the mailman system, I also found that I cannot find the archives (400 Bad Request). The system is looking for domain.tld/pipermail/members Here is the relevnet section of the httpd.conf file: ScriptAlias /mailman/ "/web/mlib/data/mailman/cgi-bin/"

[Mailman-Users] create a new list (web interface) + qmail aliases

2003-01-27 Thread Rodrigo Lagos
Hi all, I have Mailman 2.1 installed running with qmail, i have been using the Mailman+qmail configuration for a while, but just now making the upgrade to MM 2.1. I was very happy to see the "create a new mailing list" in the admin page. I have it all working with virtual domains, and its great.

[Mailman-Users] text only in attachment -Noob.Q

2003-01-27 Thread Keith Mastin
This is my first mailman implmentation. System: redhat-7.3 smtp: postfix-1.1.7-2 imapd: courier-imap-1.6.2-1.7.3 pop3d: none webmail:squirrelmail-1.2.10 list manager: mailman-2.1 httpd: apache-1.3.27-2 php:php-4.1.2-7.3.6 python:

RE: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives

2003-01-27 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "JP" == Jim Popovitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: JP> Actually my suggestion would be to remove Pipermail (and not JP> insert MHonarc, Hypermail, etc.) MM doesn't include a search JP> engine, why a mail archive? IMHO MM should focus on what it JP> already does very very we

Re: [Mailman-Users] can't access private archives when changingdefault lang

2003-01-27 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "TA" == The Anarcat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: TA> Many thanks! TA> That is great.. Pointers for a patch? http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/mailman/mailman/templates/fr/private.html.diff?r1=text&tr1=2.3&r2=text&tr2=2.2&diff_format=h Cheers, -Barry -

RE: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives

2003-01-27 Thread Jim Popovitch
Actually my suggestion would be to remove Pipermail (and not insert MHonarc, Hypermail, etc.) MM doesn't include a search engine, why a mail archive? IMHO MM should focus on what it already does very very well. -Jim P. > -Original Message- > From: Barry A. Warsaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Using mailman without passwords WAS Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman

2003-01-27 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "MD" == Matthew Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MD> Now my 2 disclaimers. 1. Do with this information as you see MD> fit, its not the recommended way to setup a list. 2. Take it MD> for what its worth, it was free. Actually, it's a fine way to run your lists, because your m

Re: [Mailman-Users] Fiddling with pending messages

2003-01-27 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "MO" == Marcin Owsiany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MO> I just wasn't sure if the .db file wouldn't become corrupt MO> after I modify/delete the .txt files. But it seems OK. Yes, Mailman 2.1 will log a message about missing .txt files and then just evict those entries from the .db f

Re: [Mailman-Users] X-Loop

2003-01-27 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "GH" == Gareth Hopkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: GH> So is there anywhere I can add this then in mailman or change GH> the X-Beenthere settings? I still don't quite understand what you're trying to accomplish. I wouldn't recommend changing the X-BeenThere header -- this is an in

Re: [Mailman-Users] can't access private archives when changingdefault lang

2003-01-27 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "TA" == The Anarcat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: TA> That said, I think I found a bug. Recently, I changed the TA> default language of two private lists to "français" (french) TA> and suddenly, I couldn't login the private archives. And TA> actually, the form in /mailman/priv

Re: [Mailman-Users] interface outside of the mailman directory

2003-01-27 Thread Jon Carnes
Have you looked at using the built in scripts included in ~mailman/bin/..? Even if you don't want to call them directly, you can still use them as a template for CGI's that you want to build. You can setup a bash shell that runs as user "mailman" when executed, and then use that shell to execute

[Mailman-Users] interface outside of the mailman directory

2003-01-27 Thread Richard Plotkin
Hi list, I was wondering if you could help me solve a development problem. I'm trying to incorporate my Mailman lists into a dynamic website, and so I want to be able to lay out the interface in my own special way, but still have the pages call the info from Mailman. I know I could normally

RE: [Mailman-Users] How to delete messages from private archives

2003-01-27 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "JP" == Jim Popovitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: JP> I too use HTDig, but this doesn't really help with external JP> search engines or deep-linkers. The best solution, is JP> MHonarc, but I keep holding out for Pipermail to catchup. ;) Wanna help? :) I keep looking for motiv

[Mailman-Users] more details on Mailman taking up most of my RAM (help still needed)

2003-01-27 Thread NOW Website Coordinator
Here are some more details: I am not sending any mail out right now on this announce only list, unless it's still working on a message from Saturday night (not sure how to tell if it is). Our traffic is very high, though, with lots of people subscribing or unsubscribing to the lists. I'm usin

Re: [Mailman-Users] exim -mailman faq - not working

2003-01-27 Thread Jon Carnes
~mailman/bin/genaliases in mentioned in: NEWS UPGRADING README.POSTFIX Sorry, it looks like the genaliases script is designed specifically to be used with Postfix... Hmmm. Seems like it could easily be made MTA neutral, and still be able to link with Postfix. Jon On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 10:

[Mailman-Users]

2003-01-27 Thread Adam
I've been trying to get through these problems on my own for a while - using the searchable mailling list (thanks for that guys). However, I've still got problems. I'm using mandrake 9 with mailman installed from rpm. I seemed to have managed to get sendmail working (with appropriate aliases

Re: [Mailman-Users] patch written for 2.1 for post-only access.

2003-01-27 Thread Jon Carnes
On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 14:43, Jon Carnes wrote: > Okay. I got it working... > > (I have to attach it as a file since my kids just modified my system and > disabled cut and paste... :-) > > The "IsMember function was moved to the module MemberAdaptor and renamed > "isMember". > > The Moderate.py

RE: [Mailman-Users] MS Exchange as a relay computer?

2003-01-27 Thread Angel Gabriel
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ralf Hildebrandt Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 7:30 PM To: Angel Gabriel Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] MS Exchange as a relay computer? * Angel Gabriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Does anyo

Re: [Mailman-Users] MS Exchange as a relay computer?

2003-01-27 Thread alex wetmore
On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Angel Gabriel wrote: > Does anyone on this list have MS Exchange as a relay computer? I was > thinking that local DNS speeds up email delivery, and MS Exchange, requires > local DNS to function, so if I relayed all my mailman email via my MS > Exchange box, it should deliver th

[Mailman-Users] Web list creation

2003-01-27 Thread Tom Maddox
So, according to this post http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg03976.html, Mailman 2.1 is supposed to support completely automated list creation through the web, which I assume includes creating the aliases. The problem is that aliases don't get created. I checked the perms on

Re: [Mailman-Users] Need a patch written for 2.1 for post-onlyaccess.

2003-01-27 Thread Jon Carnes
Okay. I got it working... (I have to attach it as a file since my kids just modified my system and disabled cut and paste... :-) The "IsMember function was moved to the module MemberAdaptor and renamed "isMember". The Moderate.py module is very well written and makes it quite easy to add checks

Re: [Mailman-Users] MS Exchange as a relay computer?

2003-01-27 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Angel Gabriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Does anyone on this list have MS Exchange as a relay computer? I was > thinking that local DNS speeds up email delivery, and MS Exchange, requires > local DNS to function, so if I relayed all my mailman email via my MS > Exchange box, it should deliver the lot

[Mailman-Users] MS Exchange as a relay computer?

2003-01-27 Thread Angel Gabriel
Does anyone on this list have MS Exchange as a relay computer? I was thinking that local DNS speeds up email delivery, and MS Exchange, requires local DNS to function, so if I relayed all my mailman email via my MS Exchange box, it should deliver the lot pretty quick, right? ---

Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.1/Gentoo issue?

2003-01-27 Thread Matthew Davis
* Kevin Carpenter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Whats not happening is any mail list distributions. > > I've been up ALL weekend with this SQL worm thing, am rather tired, and would > really like to get this working. Is there is anything obvious I'm missing? First question would be is your mailma

Re: [Mailman-Users] Need a patch written for 2.1 for post-onlyaccess.

2003-01-27 Thread Jon Carnes
Hmmm, MailList.py has changed too. I need to find (or rewrite) a new function for "IsMember". Shouldn't be too hard, but I've got to do some actual work for awhile... I'll get back to it tonight. On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 10:29, Jon Carnes wrote: > The functionality was moved from the Hold.py modul

[Mailman-Users] 2.1/Gentoo issue?

2003-01-27 Thread Kevin Carpenter
Hi all - Yesterday I bravely went someplace I been hesitant to go: I converted my last system over to Gentoo 1.4. This system handles all the e-mail for my domain, DNS services, Web services, mailman, etc. It was previously a RedHat 7.1 environment using Mailman 2.0.5 with Sendmail. Now its G

Re: [Mailman-Users] Need a patch written for 2.1 for post-onlyaccess.

2003-01-27 Thread Jon Carnes
The functionality was moved from the Hold.py module over to the Moderate.py module. From there it is almost identical. I applied the old patch by hand to that module and I'm testing it now. Jon Carnes On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 09:27, Marc Perkel wrote: > I'm not a Python programmer but I need a pat

Re: [Mailman-Users] exim -mailman faq - not working

2003-01-27 Thread John Swartzentruber
On 27 Jan 2003 09:43:39 -0500, Jon Carnes wrote: >What version of Mailman are you running? If version 2.1 then you can >run ~mailman/bin/genaliases and that will create ~mailman/data/aliases >which contains all the aliases needed for your existing Mailman lists >(creation of new lists will also b

Re: [Mailman-Users] exim -mailman faq - not working

2003-01-27 Thread Jon Carnes
I can't help you with the Exim integration but if you simply need to get things up and running then you might try simply creating the aliases and putting them someplace where Exim will see than as system aliases. What version of Mailman are you running? If version 2.1 then you can run ~mailman/bi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: installation and use mailman

2003-01-27 Thread Jon Carnes
On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 09:24, Samuel Tardieu wrote: > > "b" == b vergondy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > b> I come to install mailman and I does not understand. I can register > b> without problem but when I wants to send a mall to the mailling > b> list, this one arrives in limps of the list

Re: [Mailman-Users] admin bounce notification

2003-01-27 Thread Jon Carnes
In v2.1.0 final you would go to the Web-admin and then to Bounce options. By default all the bounces are sent to the Admins, you should feel free to just say no to bounces. On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 02:02, Thomas Spellman wrote: > Is there some way to turn on bounce notification to the admin in vers

[Mailman-Users] Need a patch written for 2.1 for post-only access.

2003-01-27 Thread Marc Perkel
I'm not a Python programmer but I need a patch written to add a feature that someone had written a patch for in version 2.0. The patch called a "post-only" patch allowed me to create a list called "post-only" and members of this list were allowed to post to all other lists. I am the systems adm

[Mailman-Users] Re: installation and use mailman

2003-01-27 Thread Samuel Tardieu
> "b" == b vergondy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: b> I come to install mailman and I does not understand. I can register b> without problem but when I wants to send a mall to the mailling b> list, this one arrives in limps of the list but is not to diffuse b> with the inscripts, who know this pr

Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrade from 2.0x to 2.1

2003-01-27 Thread John DeCarlo
David, This will get your cron jobs reset. Remember, they are running as user 'mailman'. as root or mailman user, run: crontab -u mailman -r crontab -u mailman mailman_dir/cron/crontab.in The first command will remove all the mailman cron jobs. The second will put in just the 2.1 cron jobs. N

[Mailman-Users] installation and use mailman

2003-01-27 Thread b.vergondy
Hello world !!! I am french my mail server is postfix... I come to install mailman and I does not understand. I can register without problem but when I wants to send a mall to the mailling list, this one arrives in limps of the list but is not to diffuse with the inscripts, who know this problem