[Mailman-Users] status=bounced (cannot append message to destination file /var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper post test: cannot create file exclusively: Permission denied)

2002-08-13 Thread Carsten Skov
Hello, I have tried installing mailman on my server (Mandrake 8.1) both as an rpm (version 2.0.7, 2.0.10)  and from source ( 2.0.12 ), and everything seems fine. The check_perms scripts says everything is okay. I can view, edit aso on the webpages. But when I send a message to a mailing list

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can I pay for Technical support? re: MailMan?

2002-08-13 Thread J C Lawrence
On Tue, 13 Aug 2002 15:52:41 -0400 Barry A Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think it makes sense to provide more visibility for these folks. If > you are providing such services and would like to be added to a > yet-to-be-determined web page, send a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] :suggest

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can I pay for Technical support? re: MailMan?

2002-08-13 Thread J C Lawrence
On Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:47:01 -0700 G Armour Van Horn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, I have my Mailman machine, along with three webservers and my > private home network, on a DSL line, and I don't think the proposed > mail volume would be any problem on his DSL line, which is faster than > m

[Mailman-Users] mailman 2.1b3 and htdig

2002-08-13 Thread Roelf Schreurs
Hi   I just installed the mailman 2.1b3 and would like to use htdig to search the archives. But the 2 plugins needed only has up to version 2.1b2. Any idea when the plugins will be available for beta 3? Or are they available somewhere apart from the plugins page on soureforge?   Thanks Roelf

[Mailman-Users] Mailing list Archiver

2002-08-13 Thread Aris Santillan
hello guys!!! i got 8 list in my mailman mailing list.. is it possible to make an archive to each of 8 list? someone suggest me to use "Lurker" thanks -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listin

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive time stamp weirdness

2002-08-13 Thread Bob Weissman
At 02:43 PM 8/13/02, Jon Carnes wrote: >So what happens when you run "date"? Does it display the proper timezone? Yes. (My machine is using PST8PDT as the timezone, if that detail is important.) The correct time is the earlier one, by the way. The archive's .mbox file shows in the last message

Re: [Mailman-Users] problem with moderator password

2002-08-13 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "F" == Fuzzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: F> I'm using 2.1b3, one of my list owners is trying to F> define a moderator of a list, (that is not a list owner). F> the password admin screen provides a place to define F> different passwords for moderators and administrators.

[Mailman-Users] Welcome message has too many blank lines

2002-08-13 Thread Woodie Sayles
I added a message to be prepended to the welcome message. It does that just fine, but although the message only has 1 blank line in between paragraphs, there are 3 blank lines in between each paragraph when it gets received. I only saw one other posting about this in the archives, but there was n

Re: [Mailman-Users] problem with moderator password

2002-08-13 Thread Tom Ryan
Moderators need only access http://hostname/pathtomailman/admindb/listname to approve/reject/etc messages. the moderator password will work just fine here :) Tom On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, Fuzzy wrote: > > I'm using 2.1b3, one of my list owners is trying to > define a moderator of a list, (that i

Re: [Mailman-Users] Daily Digests and other issues

2002-08-13 Thread Jon Carnes
On Tuesday 13 August 2002 11:22 pm, Will Galloway wrote: > > I posted this to developers, and got a deafening silence. I hope this is > a > more appropriate list. > I admin a ~1000 member outdoor activities list hosted at pair.com > ("pairlist"), > so I don't get to see the gory stuff, just the we

[Mailman-Users] Daily Digests and other issues

2002-08-13 Thread Will Galloway
Hi: I posted this to developers, and got a deafening silence. I hope this is a more appropriate list. I admin a ~1000 member outdoor activities list hosted at pair.com ("pairlist"), so I don't get to see the gory stuff, just the web interface. The size threshold trigger for daily digests stopp

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bug problem

2002-08-13 Thread Gary Verhulp
I have seen this error as well. . First of all, go read your mailman error logs. It tells you to do that in the error message. If you do that you will probably not need to read the rest of my reply:) They are located (at least on my sys )in /var/mailman/logs/error Here's what happened in my case

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive time stamp weirdness

2002-08-13 Thread Jon Carnes
So what happens when you run "date"? Does it display the proper timezone? On Tuesday 13 August 2002 06:46 pm, Bob Weissman wrote: > My 2.0.11 archives are showing a strange symptom, namely that the last > message time stamp is exactly one hour later than the last archived > time. Looks like a ti

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can I pay for Technical support? re: MailMan?

2002-08-13 Thread Chris Hedemark
On Tue, 2002-08-13 at 08:54, Support Desk wrote: > Ha, ha.. This is open source, not microsloth, there is > no "paid" support option.. I guess I had better refund all those folks I have taken money from to support Mailman, then. Mr. (Anonymous) Support Desk, you are wrong sir. > The only "paid

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can I pay for Technical support? YES!

2002-08-13 Thread Chris Hedemark
On Tue, 2002-08-13 at 11:22, Chuq Von Rospach wrote: > Why? Because while there are no formal tech support options for mailman, > there ARE a number of people on this list who can and do consulting on > mailman. I don't normally like to announce it publicly on the list, but since it is the topi

[Mailman-Users] Archive time stamp weirdness

2002-08-13 Thread Bob Weissman
My 2.0.11 archives are showing a strange symptom, namely that the last message time stamp is exactly one hour later than the last archived time. Looks like a timezone issue, maybe, but I didn't see anything obvious in the pipermail sources. Last message date: Tue Aug 13 15:36:00 2002 Archived o

[Mailman-Users] iPlanet and pipermail issue

2002-08-13 Thread Ryan Pratt
I have iPlanet 6.22 webserver running with Mailman 2.0.13. I have the admin cgi scripts working fine, but the pipermail archives are getting a cgi error. I have the follow sym links set and an alias to /pipermail/ to /opt/mailman/archives/public but I still get this error. for host x.x.x.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can I pay for Technical support? re: MailMan?

2002-08-13 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 8/13/02 12:57 PM, "Tom Whiting" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > DSL, I'd question the stability of, because I've yet to see a STABLE dsl line > (not saying it doesn't exist, but still). Cable, on the other hand I'e had > zero problems. I've had basically zero downtime on my DSL line. Any outages

Re: [Mailman-Users] mm_cfg.py doesn't appear to be working

2002-08-13 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "RB" == Richard Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: RB> fyi: all the Mailman code imports mm_cfg.py which in turn RB> imports Defaults.py. Hence the definitions in mm_cfg.py are RB> evaluated following evaluation of Defaults. py. Values RB> assigned in Defaults.py are re-ev

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can I pay for Technical support? re: MailMan?

2002-08-13 Thread Tom Whiting
> > Personally, I find DSL and Cable lines too unreliable. > > Funny, I've been running my stuff on DSL since about 1998, and before that > on a leased line into the house (back to 1995 or so), and I find it > perfectly reliable enough. > > Although I always find people telling my my setup won't

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can I pay for Technical support? re: MailMan?

2002-08-13 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "JCL" == J C Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: JCL> In fact there are (or were) several people on this list who JCL> do offer Mailman installation and configuration support for a JCL> fee. I don't know if any replied to the original poster, but JCL> there's definitely a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 0, GOT gid 12. (Reconfigure to take 12?)

2002-08-13 Thread Luke Middle
configure will be much happier if you provide the number. It is telling you what number to use! :) reconfigure with 12. Dunno how your particular passwd is set up but it appears that mail is running under gid 12 so...you have a line something like this in /etc/passwd "mail:x:8:12:mail:/va

Re: [Mailman-Users] mm_cfg.py doesn't appear to be working

2002-08-13 Thread Timothy R. Robnett
On Tue Aug 13, 2002 at 07:43:42PM +0100, Richard Barrett wrote: > A couple of thoughts: > > 1. Some list attributes are initially set from mm_cfg.py configuration > variables ONLY when the list is created. Subsequent changes to those > defaults aren't propagated automatically into these per lis

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can I pay for Technical support? re: MailMan?

2002-08-13 Thread G. Armour Van Horn
Yeah, I have my Mailman machine, along with three webservers and my private home network, on a DSL line, and I don't think the proposed mail volume would be any problem on his DSL line, which is faster than my 768K/768K line here. In two years I've had two outages. One was resolved by updating th

Re: [Mailman-Users] mm_cfg.py doesn't appear to be working

2002-08-13 Thread Richard Barrett
At 10:56 13/08/2002 -0700, Timothy R. Robnett wrote: >On Tue Aug 13, 2002 at 10:45:19AM -0700, Bob Weissman wrote: > > At 10:20 AM 8/13/02, you wrote: > > >I installed MM yesterday and got it working. However changes added to > > >mm_cfg.py do not appear to have any effect. However if I break the

Re: [Mailman-Users] mm_cfg.py doesn't appear to be working

2002-08-13 Thread Timothy R. Robnett
On Tue Aug 13, 2002 at 10:45:19AM -0700, Bob Weissman wrote: > At 10:20 AM 8/13/02, you wrote: > >I installed MM yesterday and got it working. However changes added to > >mm_cfg.py do not appear to have any effect. However if I break the rules > >and change Defaults.py it does have the desired eff

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can I pay for Technical support? re: MailMan?

2002-08-13 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 8/13/02 10:14 AM, "Nathan A. McQuillen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Of course, this assumes that you don't have jerky DSL providers that > withhold static IPs, cap your upstream speed, massively oversell their > lines, etcetera. At the very least, I'd ask for client references from > whatever

[Mailman-Users] mm_cfg.py doesn't appear to be working

2002-08-13 Thread Timothy R. Robnett
I installed MM yesterday and got it working. However changes added to mm_cfg.py do not appear to have any effect. However if I break the rules and change Defaults.py it does have the desired effect. bin/check_perms reports that everything is fine. A search of the archives didn't yield any leads.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 0, GOT gid12. (Reconfigure to take 12?)

2002-08-13 Thread Jose Guevarra
I did modify those options. sendmail deamon is running as root and apache is running as nobody. so $>./configure --with-mail-gid=root --with-cgi-gid=nobody The error is complaining that it wanted gid 0 (root) but got gid 12 (mail) so I recompiled from scratch w/ --with-mail-gid=mail Then te

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can I pay for Technical support? re: MailMan?

2002-08-13 Thread Nathan A. McQuillen
Re. Paying for tech support: good idea, IMHO. If most of the money in the industry went to pay individuals for their skills working with open source software, rather than to pay monster corporations for the licensing rights to proprietary code, I think we'd live in a far better world. My advice

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can I pay for Technical support? re: MailMan?

2002-08-13 Thread J C Lawrence
On Tue, 13 Aug 2002 09:58:39 -0400 Support Desk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone who thinks they can "host" from their basement, using DSL or > Cable, is sadly misinformed... Simply, you are mistaken. > ... when for a couple dollars a week, they can obtain 100Mb or more, > and run Mailman a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can I pay for Technical support? re: MailMan?

2002-08-13 Thread J C Lawrence
On Tue, 13 Aug 2002 08:54:30 -0400 Support Desk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ha, ha.. This is open source, not microsloth, there is no "paid" > support option.. In fact there are (or were) several people on this list who do offer Mailman installation and configuration support for a fee. I don'

Re: [Mailman-Users] (no subject)

2002-08-13 Thread irwin
On Tuesday 13 August 2002 08:47 am, Mark Paterson wrote: > I'm a newbi to mailman and have run into a problem when I try to send mail > to my test list. I have run through the setup line by line but I get the > following error listed below. This mail just sits in the mail queue. Has > anyone run i

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can I pay for Technical support? re: MailMan?

2002-08-13 Thread Larry Rosenman
On Tue, 2002-08-13 at 10:19, Chuq Von Rospach wrote: > On 8/13/02 5:54 AM, "Support Desk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Ha, ha.. This is open source, not microsloth, there is > > no "paid" support option.. > > > > Personally, I find DSL and Cable lines too unreliable. > > Funny, I've be

[Mailman-Users] (no subject)

2002-08-13 Thread Mark Paterson
I'm a newbi to mailman and have run into a problem when I try to send mail to my test list. I have run through the setup line by line but I get the following error listed below. This mail just sits in the mail queue. Has anyone run into this problem before or know what I might me doing wrong? I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can I pay for Technical support? re: MailMan?

2002-08-13 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 8/13/02 6:17 AM, "Dave Basener" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To risk sliding into an OT area, it is not unreasonable for someone to > offer to pay for support for an open source product. Just as an aside This was a message that went into the mailman-users hold queue. As keeper of the que

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can I pay for Technical support? re: MailMan?

2002-08-13 Thread irwin
On Tuesday 13 August 2002 08:24 am, Chuq Von Rospach wrote: > On 8/13/02 6:58 AM, "Support Desk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anyone > > who thinks they can "host" from their basement, using DSL > > or Cable, is sadly misinformed, > > Okay, I've been doing exactly that (well, back room, not base

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can I pay for Technical support? re: MailMan?

2002-08-13 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 8/13/02 6:58 AM, "Support Desk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone > who thinks they can "host" from their basement, using DSL > or Cable, is sadly misinformed, Okay, I've been doing exactly that (well, back room, not basement) since 1995. How am I badly misinformed? I mean, it works fine. I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Wishlist Items

2002-08-13 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 8/13/02 1:29 AM, "Nigel Metheringham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So "Wile E Spammer" of "Evil Spammers Incorporated" writes a little > script that does an invite subscribe of a few hundred throusand of his > "friends" with an invitation note of whatever crap he is sending out > this week. >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can I pay for Technical support? re: MailMan?

2002-08-13 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 8/13/02 5:54 AM, "Support Desk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ha, ha.. This is open source, not microsloth, there is > no "paid" support option.. > > Personally, I find DSL and Cable lines too unreliable. Funny, I've been running my stuff on DSL since about 1998, and before that on a lease

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can I pay for Technical support? re: MailMan?

2002-08-13 Thread Support Desk
No insinuation was made, that GPL "prevents" paid support. There are hundreds, probably thousands of companies world wide, whether on the NYSE, or small business operators, who host sites & already have Mailman installed. Anyone who thinks they can "host" from their basement, using DSL or Cab

RE: [Mailman-Users] Can I pay for Technical support? re: MailMan?

2002-08-13 Thread Jon Carnes
There are a lot of excellent consultants that do Mailman support. If you need some contacts, let me know and I'll get you in touch a with a few. Jon Carnes -Original Message- From: Dave Basener [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 9:17 AM To: Support Desk Cc: Steve

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can I pay for Technical support? re: MailMan?

2002-08-13 Thread Dave Basener
To risk sliding into an OT area, it is not unreasonable for someone to offer to pay for support for an open source product. Certainly nothing in the GPL prevents taking payment to provide support for a GPL product. There are even some firms out there that are traded on the NYSE whose business is

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can I pay for Technical support? re: MailMan?

2002-08-13 Thread Support Desk
Ha, ha.. This is open source, not microsloth, there is no "paid" support option.. Personally, I find DSL and Cable lines too unreliable. The only "paid" support you can get for Mailman is by hosting your site on one of the thousands of real full time hosting providers who offer Mailman as part o

Re: [Mailman-Users] newlist.py error after a debian install

2002-08-13 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "bear" == <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: bear> I used apt-get to install mailman (2.0.12-2) and when I run bear> newlist I get the following: Looks like there's some custom stuff in that package, because that code doesn't show up at all in the source for ValidateEmail() in Mailman/

[Mailman-Users] all mail to lists generates 550 user not found error

2002-08-13 Thread tek
I am missing something here and would totally appreciate anything anyone could point out that i am obviously not seeing or flat out doing incorrectly. I cannot reply to the confirmation emails coming from my installation of Mailman or send mail into to any of my "test" lists. I/everyone get an

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman mailing lists - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF)

2002-08-13 Thread J C Lawrence
On Thu, 8 Aug 2002 14:42:40 -0500 Chris Winterrowd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How well does Mailman scale, and what's the largest number of lists > that anyone has reported having? Please see the FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py You might also look at SourceForge. -- J C

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can I pay for Technical support? re: MailMan?

2002-08-13 Thread J C Lawrence
On Mon, 12 Aug 2002 22:23:35 -0700 Steve Shultz <" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > I have a list that within weeks will go to 75,000 readers twice each > day, but sometimes, on certain days, 5-6 times a day. I want to use a > dsl line to do it. whattayathink? Read the FAQ: http://www.python.or

Re: [Mailman-Users] subscribe requests

2002-08-13 Thread J C Lawrence
On Wed, 7 Aug 2002 15:16:21 -0400 zeek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nowhere have I found a way to answer "subscribe" requests > automagically w/Mailman. Does anyone have an add-on or patch for this? That's what the -request address is for. -- J C Lawrence -(*)

Re: [Mailman-Users] Wishlist Items

2002-08-13 Thread J C Lawrence
On Fri, 9 Aug 2002 18:34:12 -0400 Rajesh Patel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Last of all I have a general question which I do not see addressed in > the FAQ - how is a request like this handled and is there any feedback > so I can tell if this request is going anywhere anytime soon? This is Open

Re: [Mailman-Users] Wishlist Items

2002-08-13 Thread Tom Whiting
Wooh, hey, yeah, sounds wonderful.. just tell me one thing.. Who's gonna be held responsible? heh On Tuesday 13 August 2002 03:29 am, Nigel Metheringham wrote: > On Mon, 2002-08-12 at 23:57, G. Armour Van Horn wrote: > > Very, very good idea, actually. I certainly know my friends and coworkers >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Wishlist Items

2002-08-13 Thread Nigel Metheringham
On Mon, 2002-08-12 at 23:57, G. Armour Van Horn wrote: > Very, very good idea, actually. I certainly know my friends and coworkers well > enough that I wouldn't sign them up for somthing that they wouldn't enjoy or > benefit from. To join relative strangers to the list is obviously a bad idea. But