RE: [Mailman-Users] Help

2002-05-13 Thread Lewis Lau
Just a suggestion. How about hack the CookHeaders.py a bit, remark the line "List-Post" and remain the lines "List-Subscribe" and "List-Unsubscribe" unchanged? This will only remove the "List-Post" information from the mail header. Lewis At 11:35 PM 5/13/02 -0400, AerosmithFanClub.com List Ad

Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer disappeared in HTML mails?

2002-05-13 Thread J C Lawrence
On Tue, 14 May 2002 11:43:52 +0800 Lewis Lau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I found that the footer won't appear in the mails with HTML format or > attachment files, is that any way to fix this problem? Known problem. Fixed in 2.1. -- J C Lawrence -(*)S

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

2002-05-13 Thread J C Lawrence
On Mon, 13 May 2002 22:39:22 -0400 AerosmithFanClub com List Admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Herein lies the rub with the mailman program. Let's keep this simple: If you merely wish to complain, please do so somewhere else. We're not interested. If you'd like to help then by all means ch

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

2002-05-13 Thread J C Lawrence
On Mon, 13 May 2002 23:15:44 -0400 (EDT) fuzzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > it would be nice if there was a way to set an option to "assume" > reject as a default for posts to closed lists from non-members without > also throwing out subscription requests. Perhaps something in the > future for

[Mailman-Users] Footer disappeared in HTML mails?

2002-05-13 Thread Lewis Lau
Hi All, I found that the footer won't appear in the mails with HTML format or attachment files, is that any way to fix this problem? Regards, Lewis -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mai

Re: [Mailman-Users] personalized To-Header

2002-05-13 Thread Jan Theofel
Hello, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 08:12:25PM +0200, Norbert Bollow wrote: > > > When we send out a newsletter, the To-Header is the mailadress of the > > > list. It would be nice if the To-Header would be the adress of the > > > actual recipient, but I dont know if thi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

2002-05-13 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 02:06:42AM -0400, AerosmithFanClub.com List Admin wrote: > not addressed in the software. Form looking at the code, it is rather easy > to see that the programmers are pretty damn good. It is rather surprising > to fellow programmers that one would tie the hands of user

RE: [Mailman-Users] Help

2002-05-13 Thread AerosmithFanClub.com List Admin
You obviously came in on the end of the conversation. My host no longer offers it. I have 35+ web sites and it is a major PITA to switch hosts. All I have been asking for is a little more flexibility to be designed into the software. It just seems that every time that I ask how I s

[Mailman-Users] List dead?

2002-05-13 Thread LuKreme
I checked the list archives and there seem to have been only a couple f posts in the last few months. Is that right or are the archives messed up? -- You are responsible for your rose. -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://

RE: [Mailman-Users] Help

2002-05-13 Thread AerosmithFanClub.com List Admin
With Majordomo there IS nothing to maintain! That was the point I was trying to make. I do understand that it is a case of different strokes for different folks. I have no problem with that what-so-ever. MM is not at all designed for use as a news list. It may well work OK for a di

RE: [Mailman-Users] Help

2002-05-13 Thread AerosmithFanClub.com List Admin
Well bully for you. Its just fine that you like it. I like it as well just wish that it was not such a pain in the butt to do anything other than the EXACT way the programmers dictate that they be done. The fact is that the software is nit flexible at all. If you know anything about

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

2002-05-13 Thread AerosmithFanClub.com List Admin
Herein lies the rub with the mailman program. The programmers ASS-U-ME that everyone using the software as full access to the server on which it is run. Many users have this in a shared server environment and these "wonderful" patches to make up for short comings in the software are n

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

2002-05-13 Thread Lewis Lau
Hey man, Read the FAQ! Topic on: How do I automatically delete held messages? Lewis At 06:18 PM 5/13/02 -0400, AerosmithFanClub.com List Admin wrote: >I have my list closed so that only subscribers can post. I keep getting >these emails each time a non-subscriber tries to post saying that I

Re: [Mailman-Users] The moderation/SPAM queue

2002-05-13 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
"AerosmithFanClub.com List Admin" wrote: > Technically the other person is way anal. Everyone has a right to be. I hear you screaming, doesn't mean I'm listening. > So if I or my subscribers never GET it in our > mailboxes then the list does not GET mail. You sendign something does not >

Re: [Mailman-Users] The moderation/SPAM queue

2002-05-13 Thread Eric A. Meyer
At 16:49 -0600 5/13/02, Mike Avery wrote: >However, any list that has any real presence will be >subjected to any number of attacks. Once the email >address is known, spammers will try to send to it. Boy, isn't that the truth. Which reminds me, I was wondering if there are any thoughts of

Re: [Mailman-Users] The moderation/SPAM queue

2002-05-13 Thread AerosmithFanClub.com List Admin
Technically the other person is way anal. The mail does not get to the list until it is delivered to the subscribers. Until then it is in the process of being sent. So if I or my subscribers never GET it in our mailboxes then the list does not GET mail. You sendign something does not mean

Re: [Mailman-Users] The moderation/SPAM queue

2002-05-13 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
"AerosmithFanClub.com List Admin" wrote: > Mail that you > dont see on the list does not get to the list. Same damn thing. > > As long as it is blocked from the list then > the list does not get the mail. I stand by what I said. If you set up > your list correctly then the list will not get an

Re: [Mailman-Users] The moderation/SPAM queue

2002-05-13 Thread AerosmithFanClub.com List Admin
Now thats about the stupidest statement I have ever seen! Mail that you dont see on the list does not get to the list. Same damn thing. What people send is another issue. Folks can send what ever they want where ever and when ever they want. As long as it is blocked from the list t

Re: [Mailman-Users] The moderation/SPAM queue

2002-05-13 Thread Mike Avery
On 10 May 2002 at 17:48, AerosmithFanClub.com List Adm wrote: > A correctly configured list will get ZERO spam. Not quite. A correctly configured list will see zero spam. However, any list that has any real presence will be subjected to any number of attacks. Once the email address is kno

[Mailman-Users] How to unsubscribe w/out a password

2002-05-13 Thread Jonathan Lehrer
I want my subscribers to be able to unsubscribe via e-mail without knowing their password. This issue was addressed at: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2002-January/016850.html And also at http://nleaudio.com/bnotes/mailman.htm But the solution seems rather complicated. Does any

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

2002-05-13 Thread AerosmithFanClub.com List Admin
I have my list closed so that only subscribers can post. I keep getting these emails each time a non-subscriber tries to post saying that I have to go approve or reject the post. Hey guess what, I made it closed because I DONT want these posts. Go figure! So tell me how do I make it stop s

Re: [Mailman-Users] personalized To-Header

2002-05-13 Thread Norbert Bollow
> I wouldnt matter for giving sendmail a seperate message for each > recipient in that case, cause this specific list will grow no bigger > than 100 users ever and thats no problem for my machine. In that case, Mailman 2.1 is for you. It has this functionality. Greetings, Norbert. -- A founde

Re: [Mailman-Users] personalized To-Header

2002-05-13 Thread pilsl
> > Unless you're willing to give a separate message to sendmail for > each recipient (which is inefficient and dangerous - with big > lists you might run out of disk space on the partition with the > mailqueue) ... I wouldnt matter for giving sendmail a seperate message for each recipient in th

[Mailman-Users] New High Performance Installation

2002-05-13 Thread Jamie Penner
Hello list! We've recently taken on a new client who has a very heavy list.I am wondering if anyone can shed some feedback on whether MailMan is the right answer for this! (the client is currently using ezmlm but I am trying to move away from that) The list volume is approx 400,000 ema

Re: [Mailman-Users] personalized To-Header

2002-05-13 Thread Norbert Bollow
> > > When we send out a newsletter, the To-Header is the mailadress of the > > > list. It would be nice if the To-Header would be the adress of the > > > actual recipient, but I dont know if this is possible. > > > > It's possible with Qmail and the qmail-verh patch (see > > http://mailman.cis.t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

2002-05-13 Thread Elaine Miller
No, it looks as though Hostway offers Unix *and* Weendows hosting. Joe, it depends on what your hosting provider can offer you. Mailman works on Unix-based systems, but needs to be installed on their server by them, not on your home computer. (Unless you're running a home server?) Most hosting

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

2002-05-13 Thread Raquel Rice
On Mon, 13 May 2002 09:29:54 -0400 Bolzenius, Joseph S. "Bolzenius, Joseph S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just started a webpage with Frontpage software on my Windows > based PC and > am using Hostway.com as my web hosting service. I saw that your > maillist > service is free and want to use

Re: [Mailman-Users] personalized To-Header

2002-05-13 Thread pilsl
On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 08:12:25PM +0200, Norbert Bollow wrote: > > When we send out a newsletter, the To-Header is the mailadress of the > > list. It would be nice if the To-Header would be the adress of the > > actual recipient, but I dont know if this is possible. > > It's possible with Qmail

Re: [Mailman-Users] personalized To-Header

2002-05-13 Thread Norbert Bollow
> When we send out a newsletter, the To-Header is the mailadress of the > list. It would be nice if the To-Header would be the adress of the > actual recipient, but I dont know if this is possible. It's possible with Qmail and the qmail-verh patch (see http://mailman.cis.to/qmail-verh/ for detail

[Mailman-Users] archive problems

2002-05-13 Thread pilsl
While I have no problems accessing the archive-page of my lists this page always states that there are currently no archives. The full raw-archive which is donwloadable on tht same page contains all messages like supposed. Whats my problem or - more realistic to get an answer - where should I sta

[Mailman-Users] personalized To-Header

2002-05-13 Thread pilsl
I've set up a rather small mailinglist (about 50 members) thats merely a newsletter than a mailinglist, cause only the admin is allowed to send messages. Users can only subsribe/unsubscribe. When we send out a newsletter, the To-Header is the mailadress of the list. It would be nice if the To-He

Re: [Mailman-Users] New user question

2002-05-13 Thread Bob Weissman
At 09:55 AM 5/13/02, Bob Weissman wrote: >At 09:42 PM 5/12/02, Marc MERLIN wrote: >>On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 09:50:44AM -0700, Bob Weissman wrote: >>> I hope I'm reading this right; may I infer that these headers will be >>> supressable on a per-list basis? >> >>Nope, site-wide only. >>Barry

[Mailman-Users] RPM Upgrade

2002-05-13 Thread Mel Sojka
Ok folks I have a box here on the network running Red Hat 7.0 it has Mailman 2.0 installed. The admininstrator is having a few problems with admin request. I have another server using 2.08 and does not have any of these little nagging problems. My question is what is necessary to upgrade via RPM

Re: [Mailman-Users] New user question

2002-05-13 Thread Bob Weissman
At 09:42 PM 5/12/02, Marc MERLIN wrote: >On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 09:50:44AM -0700, Bob Weissman wrote: >> I hope I'm reading this right; may I infer that these headers will be >> supressable on a per-list basis? > >Nope, site-wide only. >Barry already knows that mailman 3 will probably ne

[Mailman-Users] Help

2002-05-13 Thread Bolzenius, Joseph S.
I just started a webpage with Frontpage software on my Windows based PC and am using Hostway.com as my web hosting service. I saw that your maillist service is free and want to use it, but don't know how...it mentions that it may not work with windows. What do I do? Joe "Full Shred" Plow Two Ma

[Mailman-Users] Question

2002-05-13 Thread Michael Smith
Hi all, I know this question gets asked a lot, but please bear with me. Suse 7.2 Apache Qmail Mailman 2.0.10 Apache runs as wwwuser, group nobody Mailman runs as user mailman, group mailman ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/mailman --with-mail-gid=mailman --with-cgi-gid=nogroup mailman@starli

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help please?

2002-05-13 Thread Steve Muchai
Have you created the entries in /etc/aliases? Something like: xyz:"|/var/mailman/mail/wrapper post xyz" xyz:"|/var/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner xyz" xyz:"|/var/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd xyz" You'll have to run newaliases after this. Steve On Sun, 12 May 20

Re: [Mailman-Users] Fwd: Cron /usr/bin/python -S /usr/home/mailman/cron/checkdbs

2002-05-13 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Oliver Egginger wrote: > last week I switched from MM 2.07 to MM 2.10 > and changed the mailman directory from > /home/mailman > to > /usr/home/mailman > > I think I did (almost) all necessary changes cause mailman is still working. > But now I receive the following error reports

[Mailman-Users] Lists not so private

2002-05-13 Thread Support
Hi mailman 2.0.10 2 lists under 2 domains first list is public so going to http://www.domain1.com/mailman/listinfo shows domain1-list However domain2-list (private) can be seen by using http://www.domain1.com/mailman/listinfo/domain2-list http://www.domain2.com/mailman/listinfo does not show

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Remove a list

2002-05-13 Thread Richard Barrett
At 15:25 12/05/2002 -0500, David Gibbs wrote: >"Jim Updegraff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >000601c1f9e2$38754860$6501a8c0@ws1">news:000601c1f9e2$38754860$6501a8c0@ws1... > > Can anyone explain the procedure for removing a list? I've tried the > > rmlist command but that does not seem to

[Mailman-Users] Fwd: Cron /usr/bin/python -S /usr/home/mailman/cron/checkdbs

2002-05-13 Thread Oliver Egginger
Hello, last week I switched from MM 2.07 to MM 2.10 and changed the mailman directory from /home/mailman to /usr/home/mailman I think I did (almost) all necessary changes cause mailman is still working. But now I receive the following error reports from the crond (from time to ti