Re: [Mailman-Users] listname - first letter capitalized

2002-01-09 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Terry Davis wrote: > Well, I am thinking more along the lines of cosmetics. When the person > receives an email the FROM would say [EMAIL PROTECTED] versus > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Myah, cosmetics. I suppose you could change Mailman/MailList.py. Look for the following: self.real_nam

Re: [Mailman-Users] listname - first letter capitalized

2002-01-09 Thread Terry Davis
Well, I am thinking more along the lines of cosmetics. When the person receives an email the FROM would say [EMAIL PROTECTED] versus [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a almost a silly discussion but I expected it to be lower-cased since that is that I typed. BUT The RFCs state that you have to re

Re: [Mailman-Users] listname - first letter capitalized

2002-01-09 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Terry Davis wrote: > This seems a bit weird to me. When I create a new list "foobar-list", the name >turns out to be "Foobar-list". This seems not correct to me. If I type all lower >cased, I expect that. Am I off base here? Does it really matter though? Most MTA's I'm aware of are cas

[Mailman-Users] listname - first letter capitalized

2002-01-09 Thread Terry Davis
This seems a bit weird to me. When I create a new list "foobar-list", the name turns out to be "Foobar-list". This seems not correct to me. If I type all lower cased, I expect that. Am I off base here? Thanks for your thoughts. -- Mailma

Re: [Mailman-Users] blocking MIME

2002-01-09 Thread Tim Miller
At 12:46 PM 1/9/02, Phillip Lord wrote: >Hello all > >I'd like to block all MIME messages going to a mailman >mailing list, or alternatively hold them up for moderation. This is >partly so that I can block HTML mail because its annoying, and pretty >much everything else to avoid

[Mailman-Users] Problems with Mailman

2002-01-09 Thread mburton
Hi folks, I am giving Mailman 2.8 a try again after about a couple years away from it. It looks like it has matured quite a bit in that time and I am excited to reevaluate it. I have installed it with very little trouble on the surface. I have created a test list called BCtest without prob

[Mailman-Users] Re: several messages

2002-01-09 Thread John W Baxter
At 19:57 -0800 1/8/2002, Satya wrote: >Going the other way -- decrypting the encrypted string -- is very, >very, difficult. It's not all that hard, hence shadow passwords, and also different methods of encrypting. In the mid-90s, a high end desktop machine was said to be able to produce a workin

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman not being nice...

2002-01-09 Thread John W Baxter
At 15:41 -0600 1/9/2002, Terry Davis wrote: >I am really confused. If any developers can help me/us out with this, >it would be greatly appreciated. > >Mailman is using hostname.domain.com as the domain of the lists. Like >[EMAIL PROTECTED] versus using what I have specified >in my mm_cfg.py fil

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman not being nice...

2002-01-09 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
"Barry A. Warsaw" wrote: > Ah cool. Thanks guys for providing such good advice to others on this > list. I try. :) Mailman Users group has been a great source of help to me...it's time I return the favor. -- H | "Life is the art of drawing without an eraser." - John Gardner +--

[Mailman-Users] Heavy load for newsletter question

2002-01-09 Thread matt
I've recently moved a 50,000 user list from some web-based newsletter software over to Mailman. This list is purely a newsletter where the users cannot post messages to the list. First of all, are there any optimizations I can use for a newsletter-type list? Second, since I've moved to Mailman,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman not being nice...

2002-01-09 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "AMK" == Ashley M Kirchner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: AMK> We checked that. They're correct. It had to do with his AMK> DNS setup. Not Mailman. Ah cool. Thanks guys for providing such good advice to others on this list. -Barry ---

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman not being nice...

2002-01-09 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
"Barry A. Warsaw" wrote: > One thing to remember is that the lists' database cache values such as > the "web page url" and the hostname. So once a list is created, > setting these in mm_cfg.py won't help. We checked that. They're correct. It had to do with his DNS setup. Not Mailman. --

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman not being nice...

2002-01-09 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "TD" == Terry Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: TD> Mailman is using hostname.domain.com as the domain of the TD> lists. Like [EMAIL PROTECTED] versus using TD> what I have specified in my mm_cfg.py file. One thing to remember is that the lists' database cache values such as

Re: [Mailman-Users] Ignoring duplicate messages?

2002-01-09 Thread John W Baxter
At 12:32 -0500 1/9/2002, Paul Tomblin wrote: >The problem is that Outhouse is a tarpit - it doesn't matter how many >problems you point out that Outhouse has, both in complete purposeful >ignorance of the RFCs and common sense and the multitude of security >holes, it seems impossible to get people

Re: [Mailman-Users] blocking MIME

2002-01-09 Thread Paul Tomblin
On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 05:46:59PM +, Phillip Lord wrote: >I'd like to block all MIME messages going to a mailman > mailing list, or alternatively hold them up for moderation. This is http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.013.htp -- Paul Tomblin <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: [Mailman-Users] blocking MIME

2002-01-09 Thread alex wetmore
On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Phillip Lord wrote: >I'd like to block all MIME messages going to a mailman > mailing list, or alternatively hold them up for moderation. This is > partly so that I can block HTML mail because its annoying, and pretty > much everything else to avoid the mail virus probl

[Mailman-Users] Mailman post Installation Problems

2002-01-09 Thread fraz
Mailman segfaults as soon as any command (including initial password setup) is run System is Mandrake 7.2 # rpm -qa | grep python python-1.5.2-12mdk rpm-python-3.0.5-27mdk python-devel-1.5.2-12mdk -- Fraz White http://www.smartowner.co.uk "Obscurum per obscurious, ignotium per ignotius" -

[Mailman-Users] Help

2002-01-09 Thread Grantham, Jeff
I have installed Mailman according to your directions. Only thing is, whenever I try to go to that page I get a Permission denied error. Any ideas where to start to look? I went back and checked all the steps to installation and have not forgotten anything. I am running RedHat 7.2 python 1.5

[Mailman-Users] lost passwd

2002-01-09 Thread Zse
Hi! What can I do, if I lost my mailman list password? how can I change it?  Thx  Tamas

[Mailman-Users] special characters in name and address

2002-01-09 Thread Matthew E . Shames
Hey folks, I hope you don't mind another question from a Mailman "newbie". I am another of the Mac enthusiasts who have moved over to OS X in the past couple of years, and am enjoying expanding my knowledge to include some UNIX basics. I've noticed a strange problem whereby Mailman appears to

[Mailman-Users] blocking MIME

2002-01-09 Thread Phillip Lord
Hello all I'd like to block all MIME messages going to a mailman mailing list, or alternatively hold them up for moderation. This is partly so that I can block HTML mail because its annoying, and pretty much everything else to avoid the mail virus problem. Is there a simp

[Mailman-Users] update

2002-01-09 Thread Alberto Manuel B. Simoes
HellO! I had a server running mailman. Meanwhile, the machine was hacked. I reinstalled everything, but now my lists does not work (the wrapper says 'bad list name'). On the other hand, the web administrative interface is working. Thanks for a answer A

[Mailman-Users] ack! corrupt archive?

2002-01-09 Thread Bill Bradford
Jan 08 13:36:06 2002 qrunner(29784): Traceback (most recent call last): Jan 08 13:36:06 2002 qrunner(29784): File "../Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", l ine 221, in ArchiveMail Jan 08 13:36:06 2002 qrunner(29784): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver /pipermail.py", line 528, in processUnix

[Mailman-Users] mailing lists

2002-01-09 Thread Joanna L. Gilberti
Hi, I TA for Professor Jean-Claude Franchitti, and have been managing the mailing list for the courses. I would like to archive the mailing list as well as reuse it for the next semester. If this is possible, how do I go about doing that so that the mailing list is not deleted? Thanks, J

[Mailman-Users] Please help me

2002-01-09 Thread Prasanna Buddika
Hi, I am using Mailman Version: 2.0.4 in Linux red hat 7.1. And sendmail is running as a mail server. I have configured everything. But when I send a mail to a group account it doesn't goes to the accounts in the list. So please help me to solve this. Thanks, Regards, Buddika --- Outgoing mail

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman not being nice...

2002-01-09 Thread Terry Davis
I figured out the problem with the hostname being used vs the name I specified. I am quite embarrassed to admit it but it should be a lesson that everyone should learn from. The name I was using was being used before as a web host. http://lists.domain.com/ I changed it and turned it into a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman not being nice...

2002-01-09 Thread Terry Davis
no, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Raymond Tant wrote: > Your problem might be in your MTA. Does your local user mail show up as > [EMAIL PROTECTED]? > > Ray > > Terry Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 01/09/02 03:41PM >>> > I am really confused. If any developers can help me/us out with this, > it wo

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman not being nice...

2002-01-09 Thread Terry Davis
I am really confused. If any developers can help me/us out with this, it would be greatly appreciated. Mailman is using hostname.domain.com as the domain of the lists. Like [EMAIL PROTECTED] versus using what I have specified in my mm_cfg.py file. Thank you Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: > Ter

[Mailman-Users] Email Marketing List

2002-01-09 Thread Tom Warfield
I have several things I am under the gun to figure out and make mailman do for our marketing list. Basicaly what we are using the mailman software for is to send marketing information to our customers and etc. Of course they have to sign up for this and all that good stuff. Right now I have a w

Re: [Mailman-Users] mail coming from different hostname than specified

2002-01-09 Thread Terry Davis
I use sendmail. I have the hostname and fqdn lists.domain.com in my Fw file. If it was masquerading all mail out with this hostname, then all my email would say it was from [EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than [EMAIL PROTECTED] like it is now. Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: > Richard Idalski wrote: >

Re: [Mailman-Users] mail coming from different hostname than specified

2002-01-09 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Richard Idalski wrote: > WOuld this not be more of a problem with either your MTA's aliases file, or > with your MTA's configuration file tacking the wrong name on there? For > instance if you're running sendmail check your sendmail.cf file to see what > it has, or if you're running postfix chekc

RE: [Mailman-Users] mail coming from different hostname than specified

2002-01-09 Thread Richard Idalski
WOuld this not be more of a problem with either your MTA's aliases file, or with your MTA's configuration file tacking the wrong name on there? For instance if you're running sendmail check your sendmail.cf file to see what it has, or if you're running postfix chekc the main.cf file. Not sure if t

Re: [Mailman-Users] mail coming from different hostname than specified

2002-01-09 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Terry Davis wrote: > Yes, that is in my mm_cfg.py file. Can you run 'strings' against the .pyc file, see if the settings match with .py ? -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirc

Re: [Mailman-Users] list removal and making a list public

2002-01-09 Thread Darren
Richard and all, Thanks. I appreciate your help and advice. With your suggestions, I upgraded and now have a working list. For the benefit of others who may find this thread via the archives, I will just add a couple of comments. I had to stray from the INSTALL file just a little bit because

Re: [Mailman-Users] mail coming from different hostname than specified

2002-01-09 Thread Terry Davis
Yes, that is in my mm_cfg.py file. Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: > Terry Davis wrote: > > >>I have the following set: >>DEFAULT_HOST_NAME = 'lists.domain.com' >>DEFAULT_URL = 'http://lists/mailman' >> > > In which file? They need to be in ~mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py: > > grep DEFAULT

Re: [Mailman-Users] mail coming from different hostname than specified

2002-01-09 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Terry Davis wrote: > I have the following set: > DEFAULT_HOST_NAME = 'lists.domain.com' > DEFAULT_URL = 'http://lists/mailman' In which file? They need to be in ~mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py: grep DEFAULT mm_cfg.py DEFAULT_HOST_NAME = 'lists.diarist.net' # DEFAULT_URL must end

[Mailman-Users] mail coming from different hostname than specified

2002-01-09 Thread Terry Davis
Hello, Support here has been great. Things are working out well. With one exception. I have an a-record set up that I am using (lists). When I send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], the response comes back from [EMAIL PROTECTED] where hostname is the actual hostname of the server. How can I fix

[Mailman-Users] list access

2002-01-09 Thread Terry Davis
I want to only allow access to my lists from people with @domain.com addresses. Is this possible? -- Terry Davis Systems Administrator BirdDog Solutions, Inc. (402) 829-6059 www.birddog.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ht

Re: [Mailman-Users] list removal and making a list public

2002-01-09 Thread Jon Carnes
Yes, you can simply delete it manually from ~mailman/lists/.. and ~mailman/archives/.. Oddly enough, Mailman simply scans the subdirectories in ~mailman/lists/ and queries the file config.db in the sub-dir for the name and properties of the lists that it displays. It does not have a central data

Re: [Mailman-Users] Ignoring duplicate messages?

2002-01-09 Thread Paul Tomblin
On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 09:32:38AM -0800, Dan Wilder wrote: > Add method to FAQ, please!! Done. -- Paul Tomblin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not speaking for anybody "Outside of a dog, a good book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." - Groucho

Re: [Mailman-Users] Ignoring duplicate messages?

2002-01-09 Thread Paul Tomblin
On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 09:21:33AM -0800, J C Lawrence wrote: > On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 16:43:11 GMT > Melanie Dymond Harper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've got some users who hit "reply-to-all" and thus wind up with > > two copies of the message coming towards the list concerned. > > Then their

Re: [Mailman-Users] Ignoring duplicate messages?

2002-01-09 Thread Dan Wilder
Add method to FAQ, please!! The means you describe is something I've been intending to figure out how to do with procmail for ages ... been waiting to find that Round Tuit. Thanks! On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 11:58:22AM -0500, Paul Tomblin wrote: > On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 04:43:11PM +, Melanie

Re: [Mailman-Users] list removal and making a list public

2002-01-09 Thread Richard Barrett
Darren I'll try to deal with some of what you have said below At 10:01 09/01/2002 -0600, Darren wrote: >Thank you very much for your suggestions. I've marked the parts that I cut >and pasted from the screen output with "# from screen>" and put all of it at >the bottom of page. I hope this help

[Mailman-Users] cant get webpage to work

2002-01-09 Thread Terry Davis
Hello, I am having some difficulty getting the web part of mailman to work. I wanted to create a V-host in apache called lists.domain.com and point everything to a directory. But I am not quiet sure what directory to point it to. Also, it defaults to the path of http://lists/mailman/listinf

Re: [Mailman-Users] Ignoring duplicate messages?

2002-01-09 Thread J C Lawrence
On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 16:43:11 GMT Melanie Dymond Harper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've got some users who hit "reply-to-all" and thus wind up with > two copies of the message coming towards the list concerned. Then their MUAs are seriously broken. > I realise that the best way round this is

Re: [Mailman-Users] Ignoring duplicate messages?

2002-01-09 Thread Paul Tomblin
On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 04:43:11PM +, Melanie Dymond Harper wrote: > I've got some users who hit "reply-to-all" and thus wind up with two > copies of the message coming towards the list concerned. I realise that > the best way round this is user education (!), but is there any code within > Ma

[Mailman-Users] Ignoring duplicate messages?

2002-01-09 Thread Melanie Dymond Harper
Hi folks, I've got some users who hit "reply-to-all" and thus wind up with two copies of the message coming towards the list concerned. I realise that the best way round this is user education (!), but is there any code within Mailman which will spot duplicates and ignore them? It is duplicates

Re: [Mailman-Users] list removal and making a list public

2002-01-09 Thread Darren
Thank you very much for your suggestions. I've marked the parts that I cut and pasted from the screen output with "# from screen>" and put all of it at the bottom of page. I hope this helps the readability of this post. Unfortunately, my DEFAULT_LIST_ADVERTISED variable is already =1 in Default

Re: [Mailman-Users] list removal and making a list public

2002-01-09 Thread Richard Barrett
At 23:55 08/01/2002 -0600, Darren wrote: >I have two questions. >Question 1: > >How do you make a list public? I know how use the url to get to it. See, >http://www.kneedeep.org/mailman/listinfo/test. But, if you go to >http://www.kneedeep.org/mailman/listinfo, you will get a message from >mail