Re: [Mailman-Users] Public lists not advertised?

2001-10-03 Thread Akop Pogosian
On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, J C Lawrence wrote: > On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 22:10:20 -0700 (PDT) > Akop Pogosian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I couldn't find a file named Config.py anywhere under Mailman > > installation directory, versions 2.0.1 and 2.0.6. > > Sorry, ~/Mailman/Defaults.py. > > Note: read t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Public lists not advertised?

2001-10-03 Thread J C Lawrence
On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 22:10:20 -0700 (PDT) Akop Pogosian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I couldn't find a file named Config.py anywhere under Mailman > installation directory, versions 2.0.1 and 2.0.6. Sorry, ~/Mailman/Defaults.py. Note: read the comments. cf DEFAULT_HOST_NAME and DEFAULT_URL, >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Public lists not advertised?

2001-10-03 Thread Akop Pogosian
On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, J C Lawrence wrote: > On Tue, 2 Oct 2001 23:24:40 -0700 (PDT) > Akop Pogosian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I can't find the option that sets a default name for vhost. Is > > that supposed to be in general options? > > This is set at config time, preserved in ~/Mailman/Conf

Re: [Mailman-Users] Search Archive Feature?

2001-10-03 Thread J C Lawrence
On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 09:52:40 -0400 The Berean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does Mailman provide a feature for searching archives? Currently, no. You'll need to use an external index/search service. > If not, would a CGI search script do the job? It might, that really depends on the features

Re: [Mailman-Users] Commands

2001-10-03 Thread J C Lawrence
On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 18:19:47 -0700 (PDT) eric-mailman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do other MUA's (e.g., Outlook, Netscape, etc.) suport RFC 2369? exmh does (I use it). I understand either mutt does or can be easily persuaded to. Outlook doesn't. I think I heard mention that Mozilla's MUA mi

Re: [Mailman-Users] naming a list

2001-10-03 Thread J C Lawrence
On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 15:43:49 -0700 (PDT) Dave Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is the standard convention that I am seeking. I don't > particularly like the listserv convention of '-l' appended to each > mailing list name. Any other suggestions? Thanks. I'm not aware of an standards

Re: [Mailman-Users] managing the list

2001-10-03 Thread Jon Carnes
Dan is right - Procmail can really help you out a lot... I like to stop spam at the MTA (mail server). You can use a lot of tricks to help out with spam. If you are using Sendmail, check out the excellent resources available at: http://www.sendmail.org In particular you should look into usi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

2001-10-03 Thread Jon Carnes
On Wednesday 03 October 2001 06:58, Jamie Lamport wrote: > I've just installed mailman onto a Linux server. The installation appears > to have gone fine but i really am having trouble finding the web front > end. Where abouts is the web front end based?? > > Sorry to trouble you, > > Regards > > J

Re: [Mailman-Users] managing the list

2001-10-03 Thread Dan Wilder
On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 04:15:16PM +1200, Nigel McCarter wrote: > Greetings, > Mailman is brilliant (flattery will hopefully get me everywehre) > > I run the safe-nz list on behalf of the safety community in New > Zealand. the list is sponsored by the National Institute for Water and > Atmosph

Re: [Mailman-Users] Search Archive Feature?

2001-10-03 Thread Jon Carnes
> Does Mailman provide a feature for searching archives? I know it can > list and store archives, but I havent seen anything about searching them. > If not, would a CGI search script do the job? If it can, what would be > the best CGI script to use? I have an Entropy search script preinstalle

[Mailman-Users] Deleting an undeletable list member, removing a bad email address

2001-10-03 Thread A & D Davidson
re: Deleting an undeletable list member, removing a bad email address, currupt membername, unsubscribing multiple members. I've just spent a while looking for help on a problem with a bad address entry in Mailman. Since the first several keywords I tried failed, I thought I'd post what worked.

[Mailman-Users] Help

2001-10-03 Thread Jamie Lamport
I've just installed mailman onto a Linux server. The installation appears to have gone fine but i really am having trouble finding the web front end. Where abouts is the web front end based?? Sorry to trouble you, Regards Jamie Lamport Product Development Engineer Netkonect Communications plc

[Mailman-Users] Search Archive Feature?

2001-10-03 Thread The Berean
Thanks for the answers to my previous question, they were very much appreciated. I just have one more: Does Mailman provide a feature for searching archives? I know it can list and store archives, but I havent seen anything about searching them. If not, would a CGI search script do the job?

[Mailman-Users] managing the list

2001-10-03 Thread Nigel McCarter
Greetings, Mailman is brilliant (flattery will hopefully get me everywehre) I run the safe-nz list on behalf of the safety community in New Zealand. the list is sponsored by the National Institute for Water and Atmospheric Research and was originally configured by the then IT manager Wayne Kn

Re: [Mailman-Users] Commands

2001-10-03 Thread eric-mailman
On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, J C Lawrence wrote: > On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 14:50:39 -0700 (PDT) > eric-mailman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hello: I've noticed that the pine MUA recognizes the set of > > commands that are encapsulated with this list's traffic > > (List-Help, List-Post, List-Unsubscribe, e

Re: [Mailman-Users] Creating a Mailing list Server

2001-10-03 Thread Dan Wilder
On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 08:39:42PM -0400, Jean Vallery wrote: > I had the pleasure of using mailman once before installed on a ISP's Unix server. He >installed it but then a few months later closed shop. > Is anyone out there in the Sarasota Florida area that could install the software, >unix or

[Mailman-Users] Creating a Mailing list Server

2001-10-03 Thread Jean Vallery
I had the pleasure of using mailman once before installed on a ISP's Unix server. He installed it but then a few months later closed shop. Is anyone out there in the Sarasota Florida area that could install the software, unix or other system to allow sendmail, perl,python and mailman to operate.

[Mailman-Users] Mailman Message Content

2001-10-03 Thread Kerry DeVilbiss
Title: Mailman Message Content Hello all! I've been cruising through Mailman for a couple days, and am extraordinarily pleased with it so far... I'm trying to find the config file for changing the text that is sent out for subscribe messages, or any email messages, for that matter. Can't

Re: [Mailman-Users] naming a list

2001-10-03 Thread Ben Burnett
On Wednesday 03 October 2001 03:43 pm, Dave Robbins wrote: > While I've never had a problem coming up with a name for a mailing list, > I am now trying to determine the most standard Internet convention > for naming a list. > > Because I manage the network for a Geology Department, > I often have

Re: [Mailman-Users] Deletion, unscribe, Help

2001-10-03 Thread Ben Burnett
I agree. I have personally tried to help this person in very simple terms to no avail. I apologize for taking up yet more of your bandwidth, but I felt that Mr. Carnes deserved a second for his motion to ignore - Ben On Wednesday 03 October 2001 03:47 pm, Jon Carnes wrote: > Since about 8 fol

Re: [Mailman-Users] naming a list

2001-10-03 Thread Satya
On Oct 3, 2001 at 15:43, Dave Robbins wrote: [user accoun gs20, mailing list name gs20] >This is the standard convention that I am seeking. >I don't particularly like the listserv convention of '-l' >appended to each mailing list name. Any other suggestions? In the example which you cited, app

Re: [Mailman-Users] Deletion, unscribe, Help

2001-10-03 Thread Jon Carnes
Since about 8 folks have already helped this guy, I can only assume that he is some sort of Troll. Let's ignore him. The Troll may actually be using someone else's email address (someone they obviously don't like) Every part of the body has a function... and in this wide world I believe I kn

[Mailman-Users] naming a list

2001-10-03 Thread Dave Robbins
While I've never had a problem coming up with a name for a mailing list, I am now trying to determine the most standard Internet convention for naming a list. Because I manage the network for a Geology Department, I often have to create users (i.e. for filesharing) for courses. An example of this

Re: [Mailman-Users] Commands

2001-10-03 Thread J C Lawrence
On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 14:50:39 -0700 (PDT) eric-mailman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello: I've noticed that the pine MUA recognizes the set of > commands that are encapsulated with this list's traffic > (List-Help, List-Post, List-Unsubscribe, etc.). Is there a > standard for these commands? If

[Mailman-Users] Commands

2001-10-03 Thread eric-mailman
Hello: I've noticed that the pine MUA recognizes the set of commands that are encapsulated with this list's traffic (List-Help, List-Post, List-Unsubscribe, etc.). Is there a standard for these commands? If so, where can I find out more about them? -- Eric P. Los Gatos, CA --

Re: [Mailman-Users] Major problem

2001-10-03 Thread J C Lawrence
On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 14:58:40 -0400 Jim Kutter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok. After some digging it would seem that a message somewhere gets > jammed in the qfiles directory, and prevents qrunner from getting > to the other messages. The log file indicates that qrunner dies > for some reason, bu

[Mailman-Users] Unscribe...jtwhitlock@kih.net

2001-10-03 Thread JT Whitlock
Please cvan you UNSCRIBE ME, SIGNED ON BY MISTAKE, NOW GETTING UP TO 150 LETTERS DAILY.  Any help appreciated.   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Mailman-Users] Deletion, unscribe, Help

2001-10-03 Thread JT Whitlock
As a computer dummy I, by mistake, signed on the "Mailman", now I am getting from 50 to 150 letters daily.  PLEASE, PLEASE PLEASE, CAN YOU UNSCRIBE ME ?   J. T. Whitlock...   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Mailman-Users] Getting Thread View to work

2001-10-03 Thread sara . harris
I am using mailman and when i view the archives with the thread view - there is NO thread view. Meaning the breakout of the threadview does not have a tabbing sequence - the various threads are no indented and do not fall under the parent email. Any suggestions why?? Thanks Sara This message is

Re: [Mailman-Users] Major problem

2001-10-03 Thread Jim Kutter
Ok. After some digging it would seem that a message somewhere gets jammed in the qfiles directory, and prevents qrunner from getting to the other messages. The log file indicates that qrunner dies for some reason, but running it from the command line does nothing to the number of messages in t

[Mailman-Users] mailman-exim 'returned 2' error

2001-10-03 Thread Rob Lingelbach
getting the following on a test post. On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 11:00:37AM -0700, Mail Delivery System wrote: > This message was created automatically by mail delivery software (Exim). > > A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its > recipients. This is a permanent erro

[Mailman-Users] News group transfers...

2001-10-03 Thread Mike Avery
I'm playing with using mailman to move some of my favorite news groups into mailing lists, and have run into a snag. What I'd like to do is have everything from the newsgroup make it to the mailing list, but only let subscribers to the mailing list send mail to the mailing list and then on t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Major problem

2001-10-03 Thread Jim Kutter
Sorry about that. > * Mailman version - 2.0.6 > * Python version - 1.5 > * OS and OS version - RedHat 6.2 > * MTA and MTA version - Sendmail 8.11 Running "python qrunner 2>1" as mailman displays nothing... -jim - Original Message - From: "Greg Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jim

Re: [Mailman-Users] Major problem

2001-10-03 Thread Greg Ward
On 03 October 2001, Jim Kutter said: > A condition occurrs where Mailman does not respond to anything via > e-mail. I.E.Mails to *-request addresses don't work, postings do not > appear, etc... > > This is not a problem in Sendmail because the maillog reports that the > mail is being forwarded pr

Re: [Mailman-Users] Dropping Sendmail

2001-10-03 Thread Joe Keenan
For me, I think it was actually nothing. Mailman uses the "sendmail" interface to send outgoing mail, and the Postfix version just dropped into place. And the aliases file entries that Mailman generates work fine with Postfix. joe On Wednesday, October 3, 2001, at 12:59 PM, J C Lawrence wr

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hosed mail, clueless lusers, is this STILL Monday?

2001-10-03 Thread Jon Carnes
> Is there a way to recover the mailing list passwords? I > don't see it I'd rather recover the passwords than > have to change 'em all. > > Thanks, > Mike > -- The passwords are stored in each list's config.db file. Alas, this particular password seems to be encrypted (unlike the users pass

Re: [Mailman-Users] Dropping Sendmail

2001-10-03 Thread J C Lawrence
On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 10:46:46 -0600 Mike Avery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, I was wondering... what do I need to do to Mailman to tell it > to use postfix instead of sendmail? Pretty close to nothing. -- J C Lawrence -(*)Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. [EMAIL P

[Mailman-Users] Major problem

2001-10-03 Thread Jim Kutter
Hi again folks. I seem to be having a major problem. A condition occurrs where Mailman does not respond to anything via e-mail. I.E.Mails to *-request addresses don't work, postings do not appear, etc... This is not a problem in Sendmail because the maillog reports that the mail is being forw

[Mailman-Users] Hosed mail, clueless lusers, is this STILL Monday?

2001-10-03 Thread Mike Avery
This weekend my ISP changed my setup so instead of routing my subnet directly to the internet, I'm using NAT through a single address. My system changes worked really well. However, he fat-fingered his DNS entries. *sigh* So, when I moved lists from another list server to Mailman and ente

[Mailman-Users] Dropping Sendmail

2001-10-03 Thread Mike Avery
OK... the sendmail problems that have been discussed here at some length have driven me to the point of converting to postfix. So, I was wondering... what do I need to do to Mailman to tell it to use postfix instead of sendmail? Thanks, Mike -- Mike Avery [EMAIL P

Re: [Mailman-Users] html in list archives

2001-10-03 Thread J C Lawrence
On 03 Oct 2001 11:30:07 -0400 Neil Cooler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there a way to configure pipermail or mailman to render html > emails in the archives instead of just printing out the raw html > code? Currently, no. If this or proper MIME support is needed, use an external archiver al

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman without CGI?

2001-10-03 Thread J C Lawrence
On Wed, 03 Oct 2001 08:17:57 -0400 Paul Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > what's not so clear is whether the admin functions (message and > subscription approval, etc) can be done without the web. is there > a command line interface for any of that stuff? Nope, neither a commandline or email in

Re: [Mailman-Users] getting a subscriber's lists

2001-10-03 Thread J C Lawrence
On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 09:51:35 +0100 Kiat Huang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 11:43:32AM -0700, J C Lawrence wrote: >> On Tue, 2 Oct 2001 10:16:22 -0700 Kiat Huang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >>> Hi, Is there a way through the web interface or other means (say >>> as the ma

Re: [Mailman-Users] Public lists not advertised?

2001-10-03 Thread J C Lawrence
On Tue, 2 Oct 2001 23:24:40 -0700 (PDT) Akop Pogosian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can't find the option that sets a default name for vhost. Is > that supposed to be in general options? This is set at config time, preserved in ~/Mailman/Config.py and is updatable/overrideable in ~/Mailman/mm_

[Mailman-Users] html in list archives

2001-10-03 Thread Neil Cooler
Is there a way to configure pipermail or mailman to render html emails in the archives instead of just printing out the raw html code? -neil -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-user

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman without CGI?

2001-10-03 Thread Paul Fox
> Alex's idea is good, but if you don't want the CGI and therefore you don't > want the web-interface controls, you should think about using a different > List-Server. There are many open source list -servers which do not use a > web interface. Majordomo is a prime example of one. Use the r

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman without CGI?

2001-10-03 Thread Jon Carnes
Alex's idea is good, but if you don't want the CGI and therefore you don't want the web-interface controls, you should think about using a different List-Server. There are many open source list -servers which do not use a web interface. Majordomo is a prime example of one. Use the right tool fo

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman without CGI?

2001-10-03 Thread alex wetmore
On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Paul Fox wrote: > what's not so clear is whether the admin functions (message and > subscription approval, etc) can be done without the web. is there > a command line interface for any of that stuff? You can build a command line interface for them using ~mailman/bin/withlist,

[Mailman-Users] mailman without CGI?

2001-10-03 Thread Paul Fox
the web server i run doesn't support CGI scripts. i kind of like it that way, in general. from the mailman docs, and from the little bit of playing i've done, it looks as if from a users point of view the web interface isn't strictly needed -- all operations can be accomplished via email message

Re: [Mailman-Users] Catholic Information Network (CIN) Moderators List flooded with blankemails

2001-10-03 Thread Norbert Bollow
> Dear Mailman list: > > Since the Catholic Information Network (CIN) changed to the Mailman program > yesterday, our moderators' list (which has 40 to 50 > moderators) is flooded with blank emails. Each moderator's > list gets them with the name of his or her own list. > E.G. mine come to [EMAI

[Mailman-Users] mail slipping through

2001-10-03 Thread Pieter Boshoff
Hi, Mailman V2.01 using Exim V3.20 my list is setup so that all mail must be approved by the moderator and only members may post to the list, but there are mail messages getting to the clients without it being held for approval. My list server currently has 40 lists with *5000 clients per list

Re: [Mailman-Users] getting a subscriber's lists

2001-10-03 Thread Kiat Huang
On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 11:43:32AM -0700, J C Lawrence wrote: > On Tue, 2 Oct 2001 10:16:22 -0700 > Kiat Huang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, Is there a way through the web interface or other means (say > > as the mailman admin, or a user not root (linux)) that can list > > all the lists

[Mailman-Users] activate under same user as apache - was[ remove_members by other users[

2001-10-03 Thread Ben-Nes Michael
Is there any security problems in using same user for apache and mailman ? - Original Message - From: "Szilard Vizi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ben-Nes Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mailman-Users" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 1:28 PM Subject: Re: remove_members by ot

[Mailman-Users] VERP and bounce-counting: Offer to create a Mailman patch

2001-10-03 Thread Norbert Bollow
> Bounce counting under Mailman does give numbers, but they are > unreliable and shouldn't be used for anything other than SWAGs. To > get "real" bounce counts you'd not only have to use VERP across your > subscriber base, but also VERP across your mailings so that every > message you send not on

Re: [Mailman-Users] Limited posting

2001-10-03 Thread Norbert Bollow
> Jim Kutter wrote: > > > Also - as far as stats go, in the smtp log, is that a fair > > count for how many messages really got sent? For what purpose do you need this count? I.e. do you want to bill a customer for the number of email messages that are sent out from his account? Or do you want