RE: [Mailman-Users] This is unixstuff warning

> -Original Message- > From: Chuq Von Rospach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > sorry, folks. That was meant to go privately, not to the > entire list. I > pushed the wrong button. Owh... these bloody newbies on the net... -- Enriko Groen, Hosting manager --

Re: [Mailman-Users] (no subject)

I don't see the magic word... I'm tempted to write an RFC which sets out the conditions to acquire an Internet User's License thanks to your message. -- Regards, Juha PGP fingerprint: B7E1 CC52 5FCA 9756 B502 10C8 4CD8 B066 12F3 9544 On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I will

Re: [Mailman-Users] Allowing users to join without specifying passwords

> I definitely hear what Chuq's saying, and what others have asked for > quite often. I'm mulling over ways to make unsubscribing dead simple > both for users to accomplish, and for admin's to explain how it's done. How about this: Put a link "to unsubscribe click here" at the bottom of every m

Re: [Mailman-Users] (no subject)

you're not on any of my mail lists. Have you considered following the instructions? Do you realize that abusing the people you're asking (well, demanding) help from is counter productive? Do you know how stupid you're sounding right now? On Thursday, June 14, 2001, at 11:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTE

[Mailman-Users] (no subject)

I will not take bull shit and smart emails! Just take me off your email list

Re: [Mailman-Users] stop email

At 05:23 PM 6/14/2001 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I wish to stop getting email from you ! thank you! I can assure you that the feeling is mutual! Thank you. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailm

Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving mailman to a new machine

On Thursday 14 June 2001 08:39 am, Gedaliah Wolosh wrote: > I need to move mailman to a new machine. Is there any reason I can't just > tar up the mailman home directory and unpack it on the new machine?? The > original machine will be taken out of service and the new machine will be > given th

Re: [Mailman-Users] This is unixstuff warning

On Thursday, June 14, 2001, at 12:43 PM, Chuq Von Rospach wrote: > I think I'm gonna go find a tree to sit under. I'll be back later. > sorry, folks. That was meant to go privately, not to the entire list. I pushed the wrong button. -- Chuq Von Rospach, Internet Gnome

RE: [Mailman-Users] Allowing users to join without specifying passwords

> "S" == Satya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> It looks like Mailman is designed from the ground up with the >> assumption that passwords will be used. Is that correct? S> Looks that way. Barry? In effect yes. However with MM2.1 users can just about get away with never needin

[Mailman-Users] stop email

I wish to stop getting email from you !  thank you!

[Mailman-Users] Archive Threading Problem

Has anyone else had a problem with the archives not showing the "RE:" in the list of messages? Am using Mailman2.04 and Postfix. I found another message regarding this problem in the archives which is shown below. Any suggestions appreciated. Please reply to me directly. Thank you. David Gilbe

[Mailman-Users] "SMTP " All recipients refused: host not found (question)

I am running RH 7.1 , Sendmail , and Mailman 2.0.5 Basically I recieve this message in SMTP under /home/mailman/logs/smpt and a number of ignores in smtp-failure The strange part is that the list works fine from 3:00 am (or so (inconsistant)) untill 7:00pm or so.. it's only in the times betwe

[Mailman-Users] "SMTP " All recipients refused: host not found (question)

I am running RH 7.1 , Sendmail , and Mailman 2.0.5 Basically I recieve this message in SMTP under /home/mailman/logs/smpt  and a number of ignores in smtp-failure The strange part is that the list works fine from 3:00 am (or so (inconsistant)) untill 7:00pm or so..  it's only in the times between

Re: [Mailman-Users] This is unixstuff warning

On Thursday, June 14, 2001, at 12:37 PM, J C Lawrence wrote: > On three occasions we > had unsub wars rather than "admit defeat" in an argument. I love that kind of person. Hell, when I was young and had to win fights, I was that person. it's kinda weird to be doing the "in the Good Old days

RE: [Mailman-Users] Allowing users to join without specifying passwords

On Jun 14, 2001 at 13:46, Joel Votaw wrote: >Hmmm, the README says that script only currently works with unsubscribe >requests, but does not handle subscribe requests. Is there any way to >subscribe without supplying a password? Hmm. It has always been possible to subscribe without a password.

Re: [Mailman-Users] This is unixstuff warning

On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 11:04:00AM -0700, Chuq Von Rospach wrote: [snip] > A small percentage. maybe 1/2 of 1%. The problem is that their hassle > factor is way out of proportion to their numbers. Agreed. [snip] > > Try working a cash > > register for a couple months and you'll see how true th

RE: [Mailman-Users] Allowing users to join without specifying passwords

Hmmm, the README says that script only currently works with unsubscribe requests, but does not handle subscribe requests. Is there any way to subscribe without supplying a password? It looks like Mailman is designed from the ground up with the assumption that passwords will be used. Is that co

[Mailman-Users] forwarded message from Guido van Rossum

For those of you concerned in these sorts of issues, this is great news. I've done some limited testing of MM2.0.5 and MM2.1alpha against Python 2.0.1 and it all seems to work. I think we can finally put the GPL-compatibility issue to bed. -Barry With a sigh of relief I announce Python 2.0

Re: [Mailman-Users] This is unixstuff warning

On Thursday, June 14, 2001, at 07:41 AM, JT wrote: > Any job that brings you into contact with the > general public is going to bring you to the inescapable conclusions > that a good percentage of the population might as well walk around > dressed in animal skins, dragging a human femur. A smal

Re: [Mailman-Users] aliases.py + wrapper script

> "i" == iso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: i> When I make a new list with the bin/newlist command, I want it i> to update the /etc/aliases list and run the newaliases command i> (use sendmail as MTA). aliases.py says: This will be supported in MM2.1.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Announcement only

My apologies to all for bad formatting. -Ben --- Original Copy --- >Subject: Fw: Re: [Mailman-Users] Announcement only >Date: 06/14/2001 10:37 AM >From: Ben Burnett<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Jeremy Sharp wrote: >> Can I

Re: [Mailman-Users] This is unixstuff warning

On Thursday, June 14, 2001, at 09:51 AM, J C Lawrence wrote: Yup. I see it in myself Me, too -- lest anyone think I believe myself some instantiation of perfection. What I try to do, though, is realize that I'm getting grumpy, and then go somewhere quiet so that I don't leak my grumpy on others

Re: [Mailman-Users] Announcement only

On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Jeremy Sharp wrote: > Can I ensure that my list: > - will not pass unauthorised posts for moderation, but just rejects them Jeremy, Ralf Laue has come up with a way to do this under very specific circumstances. If you can configure your Mailman installation the way he outlin

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can You Delete A Message From an Archive?

On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 10:34:03AM -0400, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: > > > "JF" == Jim Fannin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > JF> We have a unique circumstance in which a mail message was > JF> posted, approved and sent to a list which turned out to have > JF> erroneous information i

Re: [Mailman-Users] non-digest and digest

On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 11:55:26AM -0400, PAd [Pure As Diamond] wrote: > Hi, > Can anyone explain what is the difference between non-dgest and digest > members. In concept: Ten people (for example) send messages to the list on a particular day. -- Non-digest members get each of those ten pos

Re: [Mailman-Users] This is unixstuff warning

On Jun 14, 2001 at 09:57, Chuq Von Rospach wrote: >Or, with a little more work, do both. New subscribers get the newbie >template -- and for users who want a more expert version, allow them to >set an option to turn it on. That's a classic way to make a system easy >without turning it into a m

Re: [Mailman-Users] This is unixstuff warning

On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 07:55:22AM -0700, Chuq Von Rospach wrote: > And I note for the record that my suggestion that everyone stop blaming > mailman's problems on stupid users and instead go fix mailman fell on > deaf ears -- but it seems to have shut down the thread at the same time. > Becaus

Re: [Mailman-Users] This is unixstuff warning

On Thursday, June 14, 2001, at 09:43 AM, Harold Paulson wrote: >> Perhaps an install-time or >> list-creation-time option to choose standard templates or 'newbie' >> templates would be a good idea. > An expert and newbie template, Yum! Or, with a little more work, do both. New subscribers get

Re: [Mailman-Users] This is unixstuff warning

On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 07:55:22 -0700 Chuq Von Rospach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday, June 14, 2001, at 12:44 AM, J C Lawrence wrote: >> Maintaining good will and earnestness in the face of continual >> unresponsive blunt assault tends to be dehumanising. > You even see it on this list

Re: [Mailman-Users] This is unixstuff warning

On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:41:48 -0400, JT wrote: [deletia] >users (like web *and* mail-command use). Perhaps an install-time or >list-creation-time option to choose standard templates or 'newbie' >templates would be a good idea. If I get time to write an alternate >template, or if I write one fo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Announcement only

I wouldn't think you'd want to do it, either... half the time people are posting to moderated lists, they are actually trying to email the list administrator, who *should* see their messages. You could always add a header to the bounce message explaining where to reach that person, and then write

Re: [Mailman-Users] This is unixstuff warning

On Thursday, June 14, 2001, at 12:44 AM, J C Lawrence wrote: > Maintaining > good will and earnestness in the face of continual unresponsive > blunt assault tends to be dehumanising. You even see it on this list, both at the people who come here to ask questions, and among the regular residen

[Mailman-Users] non-digest and digest

Hi, Can anyone explain what is the difference between non-dgest and digest members. Thanks _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] This is unixstuff warning

On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 12:21:30PM -0700, Chuq Von Rospach wrote: [snip] > > why is the internet supposed to be immune from real life? you've never > seen people who are too busy/important to stand in line at a store? who > are annoying/obnoxious/abusive to a clerk? Name your favorite poison --

Re: [Mailman-Users] Sending without implicit approval

> "MF" == Martin Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MF> This normally would not be a problem, as we could simply do MF> this manually. However, in time this may get to be a rather MF> large hassle. Is there a way to keep all of the lists MF> synchronized in such a way that

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can You Delete A Message From an Archive?

> "JF" == Jim Fannin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: JF> We have a unique circumstance in which a mail message was JF> posted, approved and sent to a list which turned out to have JF> erroneous information in it. Management would like to remove JF> the message from the archive w

[Mailman-Users] Moving mailman to a new machine

Hi all, I need to move mailman to a new machine. Is there any reason I can't just tar up the mailman home directory and unpack it on the new machine?? The original machine will be taken out of service and the new machine will be given the same name. My mailman installation is small at this poi

[Mailman-Users] aliases.py + wrapper script

When I make a new list with the bin/newlist command, I want it to update the /etc/aliases list and run the newaliases command (use sendmail as MTA). aliases.py says: # TODO: # - fix this file! /etc/alias hacking no longer works # Write a wrapper program w/ root uid that allows the mailman u

Re: [Mailman-Users] Announcement only

On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Jeremy Sharp wrote: > Can I ensure that my list: > - will not pass unauthorised posts for moderation, but just rejects them This is not possible in any released version of the software. -- ROGER B.A. KLORESE [EMAIL PROTECTED] PO Box 1

[Mailman-Users] Announcement only

Newbie question:   Can I ensure that my list:   - can only receive posts from the administrator - will not pass unauthorised posts for moderation, but just rejects them - is nice and secure generally (maybe a posting password or something?)   ?   TIA Jeremy SharpTechnical Director Twang.Ne

Re: [Mailman-Users] This is unixstuff warning

Some wisdom posted on the exim list a while back (on the subject of trying to persuade people that its not some person with good typing skills sending out bounce messages) may fit into the current discussion. See http://www.exim.org/pipermail/exim-users/Week-of-Mon-2710/019372.html N

Re: [Mailman-Users] This is unixstuff warning

On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 12:44:10AM -0700, J C Lawrence wrote: > Do some Google searches on Chuq. He's earned, not claimed, his > laurels. You're preaching to the choir. :) -- Linux Now! ..Because friends don't let friends use Microsoft. phil stracchino -- the renaissance man

Re: [Mailman-Users] Instability of Mailman or ?

On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 13:55:10 -0700 louiza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Plus, I have sent myself (to my primary ISP e-mail addy) two test > messages from a pop account at my website and have not received > them. I have already determined that the problem does not lie with > my local ISP, as I am

Re: [Mailman-Users] This is unixstuff warning

On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 12:40:35 -0700 arandall wrote: > ::shaking head:: And then there's the fact that my boss flipped > when he saw I hadn't plugged a mouse into the server we were > setting up ... "But how will you get to anything?" ...what's > wrong with the keyboard? The central intellectu

Re: [Mailman-Users] This is unixstuff warning

On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:38:58 -0700 Phil Stracchino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 08:44:14AM -0700, Chuq Von Rospach wrote: >> I think the "teach them to fish" mode worked in earlier >> days. Today, too many people feel everyone else owes them >> whatever they want. > It's