I'm hoping someone can help me with this. I'm getting this error when
using arch to rebuild an archive, what's odd is the line that seems to
be looking for an archive mbox in /usr/share, even though mailman is
configured and installed in /var/mailman. Here's the error message from
the arch comma
On Wednesday 13 June 2001 09:53 am, JC Dill wrote:
> On 04:38 AM 6/13/01, Ed Wilts wrote:
> >On Wednesday 13 June 2001 02:25 am, Enriko Groen wrote:
> >> And frustrated too because they get 70 emails or so a day and don't
> >> know how to leave the list.
> >
> >All they have to do is to displ
On Jun 13, 2001 at 16:52, Joel Votaw wrote:
>I need to allow people to join and use the lists without specifying a
>password at all. I've dug through the docs including with the distribution,
>archives of this mailing list, and a number of Google searches and can't
>turn up the answer (however I
I am trying to migrate from Majordomo 1.9.x which has serious problems
specially in regards to sending out mail to 500+ individuals at a
time. The only disadvantage I can find to GNU Mailman is the simple
fact that I can't seem to create a base list of people and have all
lists draw from that fo
I'm sure that I've even asked this one before, but was wondering if anyone
had any tips or tricks on how to tame the memory requirements of
Mailman-2.0.5. Asking as I'm finding that even the "listinfo" or
"subscribe" CGI pages are sucking up 40-50MB of RAM on one of the lists
we're running (~
We have a unique circumstance in which a mail message was posted, approved and sent to a list which turned out to have erroneous information in it. Management would like to remove the message from the archive which is public. Anyone know how to do this without killing the archive?
Any help would
Hello,
I recently inherited
a Mailman server and have unfortunately never used the tool before. I have
a question about administering the server that I can't find the answer to online
or in the documentation, and was wondering if someone on this list could give me
some insight.
I need
Darn good reality checks Chuq, thanks. :)
> "CVR" == Chuq Von Rospach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
CVR> What can be done to clean up mailman's rough edges and make
CVR> it easier ot use, especially by the end-user who's not a
CVR> techie? where is the documentation weak? or missi
Chuq Von Rospach wrote:
> Can I program a boot rom? nope. Can you? A virtual memory implementation?
>
> Why do some of us make the assumption that because someone is trained,
> technical or smart (choose whichever term you prefer) that this somehow
> endows them with the magical ability to us
Hello all,
New to the list but have been running Mailman for over a year. Anyway
I'm in the process of installing a new box and I have a slightly
different mailman structure. Old /usr/share/mailman and the new install
has created /usr/lib/mailman and /var/mailman were the lists are
located. Is t
At 7:44 AM -0700 6/13/01, JC Dill wrote:
>This is sloppy and unprofessional "support". You have email that is
>being sent to them that they are not processing and delivering!
>That's a BIG PROBLEM and they are treating it like a minor issue.
>I'd get in their face to fix it, AND I'd start look
Hi Lars,
Looks like you're using Outlook Express, which is a Windows thing...
which may or may not be relevant, but leads me to the first possible question:
do you have Unix, Linux, BSD, Mac OS X, or some variant thereof installed
wherever you're trying to install Mailman? If not, you will proba
On Wednesday, June 13, 2001, at 12:33 PM, Barry A. Warsaw wrote:
> A> tools, etc., complain that unsubscribing from a freaking
> A> newsletter is "too technical" ?
>
> I once knew of a chief of a very large medical informatics research
> organization that never learned how to use a mouse
One has to begin somewhere, in my case with
downloading MailMan. Can't figure out how to download these files.
Tar-files appears to be different than other files I've worked with. I guess the
information is available on various pages, but I simply can't figure it out.
Would someone pls guid
> How can you do more than that? ;)
Well, I think we ought to call the product something with the word
"Mail" in it, so people know that it's about email.
And the mailing lists should be named something with "mail" in
the name, too.
Sarcastic-to-within-an-inch-of-everyone's-life-ly yours...
"Barry A. Warsaw" wrote:
> I once knew of a chief of a very large medical informatics research
> organization that never learned how to use a mouse.
Mouse? What's a mouse? We don't need no stinkin' mouse!
You know, on the flip side of that coin, when I was working
(specifically) as a QA, a bug
> "A" == Amanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
A> What I want to know is, how can someone who runs filmless
A> contrast-doppler radiology equipment, or microneurosurgical
A> tools, etc., complain that unsubscribing from a freaking
A> newsletter is "too technical" ?
I once knew
On Wednesday, June 13, 2001, at 12:27 PM, Barry A. Warsaw wrote:
> In MM2.1, you'll be able to search a list's membership by regular
> expression. Not as cool as being able to search /all/ lists by regexp
> like you can via the cli, but still useful.
and don't forget, you can do this trivially
> "MR" == Mark Roedel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
MR> but it's simply not a productive use of an admin's time
MR> (especially when we're talking about larger lists) to go
MR> combing through the web membership management screens for
MR> every subscribed address within a domai
On Wednesday, June 13, 2001, at 12:08 PM, Phil Stracchino wrote:
> What gets me frustrated is the
> people who actively *don't want* to understand, because no matter how
> simple it is, they want it done for them
why is the internet supposed to be immune from real life? you've never
seen peopl
> "PB" == Pug Bainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
PB> On some of my digests (I haven't verified all of them) I've
PB> noticed a problem that the return address is the
PB> listname-request instead of the listname. This causes problems
PB> when people reply to them.
I believ
On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 11:46:41AM -0700, Chuq Von Rospach wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, June 13, 2001, at 11:38 AM, Phil Stracchino wrote:
>
> > They don't want you to teach them how to fish ...
> > learning is hard, and they might hurt themselves on the hook.
>
> Is it the idiot's fault if they ca
On Wednesday, June 13, 2001, at 11:38 AM, Phil Stracchino wrote:
> They don't want you to teach them how to fish ...
> learning is hard, and they might hurt themselves on the hook.
many times, this really means we need improved fish hooks.
Frankly -- while list server software has made big imp
On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 08:44:14AM -0700, Chuq Von Rospach wrote:
> I think the "teach them to fish" mode worked in earlier days. Today, too
> many people feel everyone else owes them whatever they want.
It's all part of the culture of abdication of personal responsibility and
the nanny society
JC Dill wrote:
> I don't let clueless newbies tell me what they want me to do for
> them. Period. Occasionally someone tries to boss me around and gets
> roasted for their efforts. I bet they won't try that again with the next
> list admin... And if it keeps them off mailing lists entirely (g
On 02:11 PM 6/7/13, Lars T. Soeftestad wrote:
>Hi Mailmen/women!
>
>Have loked at Mailman, and thought it would be perfect for my use. Which
>is: a regular newsletter to people working on community-based natural
>resource management (CBNRM), mostly in developing countries, as an adjunct
>to the
On Jun 13, 2001 at 09:59, JC Dill wrote:
>On 08:17 AM 6/13/01, Satya wrote:
> >The software that hides so many headers with no way of viewing them is
> >broken.
>
>Yes, and AOL 6 is broken in that it doesn't (easily) let the sender send in
>Plain Text. If 20% of your users use AOL 6, what are y
On Jun 13, 2001 at 08:08, JC Dill wrote:
>On 06:56 AM 6/13/01, Barry A. Warsaw wrote:
> >The first sentence under the "Requirements, Download" section of
> >Mailman currently runs only on Unix-y systems, such as Linux,
> Put it on the home page.
Not a bad idea, but the requirements se
On Wednesday, June 13, 2001, at 09:55 AM, JC Dill wrote:
> Which means that they will expect ME to do the same when they come to
> my list.
You don't have to kvetch at me over this. I know this. I've been on the
net for 20 years now, teaching people how to fish. I've taught enough
people to
On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 08:37:09 -0700
Chuq Von Rospach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> when I get one of these -- I do it. If a user complains when they
> get the unsub note -- I simply refer them to their admin, since he
> told me to.
I have a short almost canned paragraph I roll out:
Due to sec
On Wednesday, June 13, 2001, at 09:59 AM, Mark Roedel wrote:
> When I get a request that provides me with specific addresses to remove,
> I'll do my best to comply.
When mailman actually puts the subscribed address somewhere in the
message where the admin can find it -- then you can blame the
> -Original Message-
> From: Chuq Von Rospach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 10:37 AM
> To: JT
> Cc: Chuq Von Rospach; Enriko Groen; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscriptions
>
>
> when I get one of these -- I do it.
>
> If a user comp
On 08:17 AM 6/13/01, Satya wrote:
>On Jun 13, 2001 at 07:53, JC Dill wrote:
>
>>There are too many people on the Internet these days who CAN NOT view all
>>the message headers. AOL hides many headers. Hotmail hides many
>>headers. Yahoo hides many headers. Even if there is some process th
On 08:44 AM 6/13/01, Chuq Von Rospach wrote:
>
>On Wednesday, June 13, 2001, at 07:53 AM, JC Dill wrote:
>
>> I subscribe to the "teach them to fish" method,
>
>I used to. Now I'm in the "parents don't want justice, they want quiet"
>mode, and I do what's fastest and easiest for me, which i
On Jun 13, 2001 at 07:53, JC Dill wrote:
>There are too many people on the Internet these days who CAN NOT view all
>the message headers. AOL hides many headers. Hotmail hides many
>headers. Yahoo hides many headers. Even if there is some process the user
Opposite of what some others want
Good Morning,
On some of my digests (I haven't verified all of them) I've noticed a
problem that the return address is the listname-request instead of the
listname. This causes problems when people reply to them.
Where is this setting and what can I do to fix it?
Ciao,
--
Pug Bainter
Dear all, I am truly amazed by the features incorporated to
MAILMAN...itsfunctionality is like the very
expensive/commercial LSoft's Listserv ...
I upload (to auto-responses) formated text like this:
I have a quick question: it is possible to maintain the text
fo
On Wednesday, June 13, 2001, at 07:53 AM, JC Dill wrote:
> I subscribe to the "teach them to fish" method,
I used to. Now I'm in the "parents don't want justice, they want quiet"
mode, and I do what's fastest and easiest for me, which is usually to
just unsubscribe them. I've had one too many
when I get one of these -- I do it.
If a user complains when they get the unsub note -- I simply refer them
to their admin, since he told me to.
It's his domain. I see no reason to second-guess him, or waste time
arguing with him. If he's an idiot, better off he's idioting elsewhere.
On Wedn
On 06:56 AM 6/13/01, Barry A. Warsaw wrote:
>
>> "EG" == Enriko Groen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>EG> Wouldn't it be good to state that Mailman is for Unix servers
>EG> only in the beginning of the websites pages? I think it would
>EG> bounce of a few dozen of people who
mailman,
Since the remove_members command is owned by mailman, it appears it can
only be run by the site manager. Is it possible for a list owner to run
this command or some other variation for his list only? -perhaps via an
email command?
Tim Tyler
Network Engineer - Beloit College
[EMAI
Don't worry, I put the odds at 50/50 that this poor sap will unblock
the address (whichever one it actually is) once his end users complain
about not getting their mailing lists ;-)
Equally likely situations: he has *multiple* users too dumb to figure
out how to unsubscribe (sad), or else he has
On 04:38 AM 6/13/01, Ed Wilts wrote:
>On Wednesday 13 June 2001 02:25 am, Enriko Groen wrote:
>
>> And frustrated too because they get 70 emails or so a day and don't know
>> how to leave the list.
>
>All they have to do is to display the headers of one of the mail messages.
>The unsubscrib
hey guys
I was trying to set up my list to be like this list
ie
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
every time i send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
it goes into the moderation section and i have to approve it..
this is not what i want.
i simply want the ema
> "EG" == Enriko Groen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
EG> Wouldn't it be good to state that Mailman is for Unix servers
EG> only in the beginning of the websites pages? I think it would
EG> bounce of a few dozen of people who subscribe to this list and
EG> will get disapointed
Dear gurus,
My archive is up and running for a couple of lists, but I have one list
that's not been archived. The question is how I create the directorys I need
to start archive this specific list.
If I take a look in my ~mailman/archives/private/ folder it looks like this:
(list1 is up and arch
> "L" == Louiza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
L> Yes, but the problem is that I am not allowed access to any
L> logs. The way my webhost has Mailman set up is that I can
L> create mailing lists, configure them, and manage the
L> subscriptions, but that's about as far as it goe
On Wednesday 13 June 2001 02:25 am, Enriko Groen wrote:
> And frustrated too because they get 70 emails or so a day and don't know
> how to leave the list.
All they have to do is to display the headers of one of the mail messages.
The unsubscribe information is in there.
.../Ed
--
Hey,
Is there a way to mass unsubscribe users? eg from the bounce log file?
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> From: Mike Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Could you remove all traces of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] from your
> system or i will be forced to block your address. This means you will
> receive an administrative mail each time you try to send us a mail
>
> Mike Smith
> IT Department
> MBA Intell
> -Original Message-
> From: Louiza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Yes, but the problem is that I am not allowed access to any logs. The
> way my webhost has Mailman set up is that I can create mailing lists,
> configure them, and manage the subscriptions, but that's about as far
> as
Heyhey,
Wouldn't it be good to state that Mailman is for Unix servers only in the
beginning of the websites pages?
I think it would bounce of a few dozen of people who subscribe to this list
and will get disapointed anyway.
And frustrated too because they get 70 emails or so a day and don't know
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