Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: remove this?

2001-05-09 Thread Bob Puff @ NLE
> The bottom line is, like the original poster of this thread, I > want these headers to go away. Unfortunately, I haven't been able > to find where they are coming from. If someone could simply tell > me what I need to hack in order to get rid of these headers, I > would be grateful. http://nl

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: remove this?

2001-05-09 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
> "BW" == Bill Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> But, Mailman could do a better job of conforming to RFC 2369. >> E.g. it could suppress List-Post: for read-only lists, BW> Or, as Chuq mentioned use the List-Post: NO syntax. That's what I meant to say. :) >> Whether th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Duplicate emails sent out

2001-05-09 Thread David Casamento
Well then I would have to say the duplicates are being created at my end. At 22:58 8/05/01 -0700, Chuq Von Rospach wrote: >On 5/8/01 10:57 PM, "David Casamento" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > So from what I can tell, my mailing list server is sending out all the > dups. > >But that doesn't tel

[Mailman-Users] Changing Mailman settings globally for groups of users

2001-05-09 Thread Juha Saarinen
Hi, Apologies if this is in the archives (how do you search for Mailman specific topics?), but I would like to enable the "hide" option for all subscribers to a particular list. Is there a way to do that from the CLI? -- Juha The malformed orange Fails to satisfy the eye: Segmentation fault.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: remove this?

2001-05-09 Thread J C Lawrence
On Wed, 09 May 2001 15:33:47 -0500 Bill Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 12:15 AM 5/9/01 -0700, J C Lawrence wrote: >> Actually I buy and agree with both arguments, I just consider >> them misplaced in this case. They work very well elsewhere. > I think they are appropriate here too. It

Re: [Mailman-Users] problems with the config.db permissions

2001-05-09 Thread Dan Mick
> > check_perms should be finding all this; you need to find out what's going > > wrong with check_perms. > > I tested with changing permissions/ownerships around on a few things > to see what check_perms would and would not catch, and found an > something interesting: Check_perms wants to set

Re: [Mailman-Users] problems with the config.db permissions

2001-05-09 Thread Tib
On Wed, 9 May 2001, Dan Mick wrote: > Doublecheck your version of check_perms; the code is there, and it > works, in 2.0.5. Are you running check_perms from the installed > bin/ directory as the instructions and about a billion posts on this > list say? Yes. I did. > check_perms should be find

Re: [Mailman-Users] problems with the config.db permissions

2001-05-09 Thread Pug Bainter
Tib ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said something that sounded like: > [root@unica mailman]# ls -lR lists/|grep config.db Are the directories set-gid? This will help in some cases where things are not ran through a set-gid program. Make sure that they are set to be 2775 (drwxrwsr-x). Ciao, -- Pug Bainte

Re: [Mailman-Users] problems with the config.db permissions

2001-05-09 Thread Dan Mick
> Check_perms fails to find it, and it's turning into a major problem. Doublecheck your version of check_perms; the code is there, and it works, in 2.0.5. Are you running check_perms from the installed bin/ directory as the instructions and about a billion posts on this list say? > What (exac

[Mailman-Users] problems with the config.db permissions

2001-05-09 Thread Tib
Check_perms fails to find it, and it's turning into a major problem. What (exactly) writes and rewrites the config.db file and what are the actual permissions it's supposed to have? From ealier reference it sounded as though it should be owned by nobody (since the webserver modifies/creates/backs

Re: [Mailman-Users] argh!! more problems

2001-05-09 Thread Tib
I'm afraid it doesn't - here's an example: [root@unica mailman]# ls -lR lists/|grep config.db -rw-rw1 nobody mail 9759 May 9 14:14 config.db -rw-rw1 nobody mail 9759 May 9 14:14 config.db.last -rw-rw1 mailman mail16876 May 9 15:27 config.db

Re: [Mailman-Users] argh!! more problems

2001-05-09 Thread Dan Mick
Apparently you didn't read what I said. > -rw-rw1 nobody mail16875 May 8 18:16 > /home/mailman/lists/thelist/config.db is not group mailman. That would be the problem, and I have to believe that check_perms would find it, too. > > The web server writes it. This is not a pro

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: remove this?

2001-05-09 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On 5/9/01 1:33 PM, "Bill Warner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OTOH, a strident "hack it or take a hike" anti-configuration stance (some > of the messages in the archive are downright hostile) actually makes it > harder for me, and others, to migrate towards full 2369 compliance, which > means it

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: remove this?

2001-05-09 Thread Bill Warner
At 01:29 PM 5/9/01 -0400, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: >On the larger question of the List-* headers, there's no doubt that >the situation will not change for the 2.0.x maintenance branch. If >you want to get rid of the headers, hack the source. Fair enough. >But, Mailman could do a better job of con

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: remove this?

2001-05-09 Thread Bill Warner
At 12:15 AM 5/9/01 -0700, J C Lawrence wrote: >There is a critical difference. X does allow you and even makes it >very easy to do damned near anything you want, encluding being >incredibly stupid and making bad decisions. In a general light, >this is not a Bad Thing. One critical aspect howeve

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: remove this?

2001-05-09 Thread Bill Warner
At 11:32 PM 5/8/01 -0700, Chuq Von Rospach wrote: >I disagree. Policy decisions should be made by people who can make them in >an informed way, not out of ignorance. X windows lets its users do REALLY >STUPID AND DESTRUCTIVE things, simply because they want to. "because they >want to" isn't a good

[Mailman-Users] Off-Topic: WebMail recommendations?

2001-05-09 Thread Dave Melton
Sorry for the off-topic post, but at least I confessed my sin in advance! Since this group really seems to know its stuff, I'd like to ask for recommendations for a webmail server that will run on the same RHL7 machine as my Mailman installations. I'm hosting several low-traffic domains fo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: remove this?

2001-05-09 Thread Thomas Hillson
To help out those of you who like me think we should have the option of removing the headers, here is my CookHeaders.py which removes all headers that Mailman adds to outgoing mail. This is the crude way of doing it, but my users are happier now and I have fewer complaints. Myself and another gent

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: remove this?

2001-05-09 Thread Mike Noyes
At 2001-05-09 13:29 -0400, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: >Mike, thanks for the Eudora suggestions. I'm going to create a >README.USERAGENT file that collects this wisdom, and I'm going to add >a FAQ entry pointing people to this file. If anybody else has >suggestions on settings for other MUAs please s

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: remove this?

2001-05-09 Thread Barry A. Warsaw
Mike, thanks for the Eudora suggestions. I'm going to create a README.USERAGENT file that collects this wisdom, and I'm going to add a FAQ entry pointing people to this file. If anybody else has suggestions on settings for other MUAs please send them along. On the larger question of the List-*

[Mailman-Users] user list

2001-05-09 Thread Lance M. Steenson
for starters, is there an archive available of this [EMAIL PROTECTED] list so can look thru? trying to find out where to locate the file that holds the subscriber's addresses on the server. does mailman take well to having scripts edit the users instead of the conventional subscribe or admin bul

Re: [Mailman-Users] Attributes List

2001-05-09 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
On Wed, 9 May 2001, Jason Maderios wrote: > Are all the available attributes listed anywhere? I would like to add > the username and password to the footer of every email sent out. I know > about the security implications but this is for a short term > "Announcement" list. You can't. The MLM d

[Mailman-Users] Re: remove this?

2001-05-09 Thread Harold Paulson
>Same with hacking list-*. The general consensus among those of us who've put >time into understanding this issue is that it's a very good thing for the >long-term development of mail list technologies. Short term, it's at best a >minor irritant, and that's only to people with cruddy mail clients

[Mailman-Users] Re: [Mailman-Users] purge pending submittion from command line?

2001-05-09 Thread donal . hunt2
Attached is a script that i wrote a week or two ago to do exactly that. you might need to edit the top line to reflect the location of python on your system. I had the script sitting in ~mailman/bin on my system and it worked quite happily. If you want to run it in cron, schedule it to run just b

[Mailman-Users] Attributes List

2001-05-09 Thread Jason Maderios
Gang, Are all the available attributes listed anywhere? I would like to add the username and password to the footer of every email sent out. I know about the security implications but this is for a short term "Announcement" list. TIA, Jason Maderios --

Re: [Mailman-Users] Call for suggestions

2001-05-09 Thread Mats Wichmann
At 06:02 PM 5/8/2001 -0600, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: >Chuq Von Rospach wrote: > >> Trying to keep the subscriber databases in sync across machines is going to >> be problematic. > >Tow things I can think off of the top of my head, one being the easiest >(maybe). > > a) NFS Not

Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.0.5 issues persist on RH70 (corrected)

2001-05-09 Thread Joe Morris
On Tue, 8 May 2001, Pug Bainter wrote: | Joe Morris ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said something that sounded like: | > 4. Rerun check_perms and it finds 11 problems all related to files that | > are not set-gid. Why did it return differently this time after I set the | > owner of all files to mailman?!?

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: remove this?

2001-05-09 Thread Satya
On May 9, 2001 at 09:51, Nigel Metheringham wrote: >will not in general support them... and currently the only MUA I know >of that does use them is exmh (and that has a couple of wrinkles I Pine, at least since 4.21, supports List-*. >We probably also ought to use the List-* headers as part o

[Mailman-Users] Looping unexplained

2001-05-09 Thread Bryan Gruneberg
Hi there... We are running a mailman site with 6 Lists. All the lists bar the Rouge one are working like a dream. The rogue list is sending out a sent message multiple times, with the amount of times ranging from 2 to 100 odd times. There is no difference in setup of the lists, and I have even

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: remove this?

2001-05-09 Thread Nigel Metheringham
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > If and when MUAs make automated use of these headers as suggested by > the RFC, then it may be a good idea. But until then, I simply can't > afford the added tech support burden to teach every user how to make > this kind of config change to their particular client.