In my 10+ years experience of working with an office in India, I can
only back up what Shantanu says below. It's hard enough getting good
perl programmers in India, let alone ones with such a specific skill set.
The one truly outstanding guy my company has had in all that time (and
who has sin
On 15/07/2011 21:24, ian.doche...@nomura.com wrote:
> unfortunately it has to be India since that is where our offices are.
I guess this must be that new company नोमुरा सहोकेन, rather than the
野村証券 of old.
On 15 July 2011 11:55, wrote:
> We have been interviewing for a permanent position in India, but we have not
> been very impressed by the quality of the candidates.
Maybe it would be worth finding some good junior developers and then
flying out a decent Perl trainer for a few weeks?
Leo
On 15 Jul 2011, at 20:25, Richard Foley wrote:
>
> What is it with the software industry that cheap == best. As someone said:
>
> "You can have any 2 of: Quality, Performance, Price"
"Good, fast, cheap: pick two".
Maybe India is the wrong place to be looking for perl folks. There are
p
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 09:25:57PM +0200, Richard Foley wrote:
> Maybe when you've trained people, you should pay them more, then
> they might stay...?
Observation: good software engineers don't usually have income at the
top of their list of priorities - they'll still leave for double the
pay, bu
Maybe when you've trained people, you should pay them more, then they might
stay...? Oh, right, the idea was to get cheap monkeys, (oops sorry) cheap
indians, (oops sorry) cheap foreigners, (oops sorry) cheap students to do the
job. Forever...?
What is it with the software industry that cheap
On 15 Jul 2011, at 16:48, Chris Jack wrote:
>
> Something to be careful of is: we have lost a number of Indian juniors who
> have got themselves trained up and then moved on to better paid things.
What happens if you train people and they leave?
Rather, what happens if you don't train prople an
One can switch from one sponsoring employer to another without leaving
the country, but there is a lot of truth to your statement. There is
certain smaller employer in London that pressured sponsored developer
into working constant overtime using the visa argument.
--
Best regards,
Egor Shipovalov
On 15 July 2011 18:50, David Cantrell wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 04:48:46PM +0100, Chris Jack wrote:
>
>> Something to be careful of is: we have lost a number of Indian juniors who
>> have got themselves trained up and then moved on to better paid things.
>
> Yes, obviously it's better to g
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 04:48:46PM +0100, Chris Jack wrote:
> Something to be careful of is: we have lost a number of Indian juniors who
> have got themselves trained up and then moved on to better paid things.
Yes, obviously it's better to get them to sign up for a period of ten
years indenture
Peter Corlett ab...@cabal.org.uk wrote
I work with quite a few Indian Perl programmers (mostly from Tata). Whilst
rates for programmers in India are usually lower than in London, my impression
is you get roughly the same distribution of good and bad programmers as you do
in London. A lot of th
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 9:06 PM, abhishek jain
wrote:
> Hi
> I am in India currently and when i look for job i visit either
> jobs.perl.org or one of the two most popular job sites in india, did not
> want to advertise the names here, pl mail me offline to know the names of
> them.
> Let me know i
Peter Corlett ab...@cabal.org.uk wrote
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 10:55:11AM +, ian.doche...@nomura.com wrote:
> [...]
> > We don't expect people to have all these skills, but mostly what we have
> > seen are people with some of, basic Perl OO, CGI or DBI at best.
>
> I suspect this is very mu
Hi
I am in India currently and when i look for job i visit either
jobs.perl.orgor one of the two most popular job sites in india, did
not want to advertise
the names here, pl mail me offline to know the names of them.
Let me know if i can help ?
thanks
abhi
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Denny
On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 10:55 +, ian.doche...@nomura.com wrote:
> Can anyone make suggestions for where we can advertise to attract
> people with these skills?
>
> Perl
> Catalyst
> DBIC
> Moose
The Catalyst mailing list? They seem to be okay with occasional job ads
as long as they're from ac
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 10:55:11AM +, ian.doche...@nomura.com wrote:
[...]
> We don't expect people to have all these skills, but mostly what we have
> seen are people with some of, basic Perl OO, CGI or DBI at best.
I suspect this is very much a case of getting what you pay for.
I imagine the application is to server end-users online in some way, so
presumably you could use modern technologies to build it online too. You
could get someone to telecommute from the US, via Berlin and Hong Kong, into
the office in India - might that work?
;-)
Ciao
Richard
--
Ric
2011/7/15 ๏̯͡๏ Guido Barosio :
> Consider Argentina, closer than India from a Timezone perspective and
> a lesser cultural gap. Costs are the same, afaik.
>
Oh, Mendoza. I want to visit you again.
Dp.
: Where do we go to get good Perl/Catalyst/DBIC/Moose people in
India?
The perl group on linkedin seems to pop up a lot of folks claiming many
years and good skills.
On 15 Jul 2011, at 11:55,
wrote:
> Hi
> We have been interviewing for a permanent position in India, but we have not
: London.pm Perl M[ou]ngers
Subject: Re: Where do we go to get good Perl/Catalyst/DBIC/Moose people in
India?
Consider Argentina, closer than India from a Timezone perspective and
a lesser cultural gap. Costs are the same, afaik.
Gb.-
2011/7/15, ian.doche...@nomura.com :
> Hi
> We have been interv
Consider Argentina, closer than India from a Timezone perspective and
a lesser cultural gap. Costs are the same, afaik.
Gb.-
2011/7/15, ian.doche...@nomura.com :
> Hi
> We have been interviewing for a permanent position in India, but we have not
> been very impressed by the quality of the candida
The perl group on linkedin seems to pop up a lot of folks claiming many
years and good skills.
On 15 Jul 2011, at 11:55,
wrote:
> Hi
> We have been interviewing for a permanent position in India, but we have not
> been very impressed by the quality of the candidates.
>
> Can anyone make sug
Hi
We have been interviewing for a permanent position in India, but we have not
been very impressed by the quality of the candidates.
Can anyone make suggestions for where we can advertise to attract people with
these skills?
Perl
Catalyst
DBIC
Moose
We don't expect people to have all these sk
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