Em Wed, 23 Jan 2013 19:00:11 -0200
Mauro Carvalho Chehab escreveu:
> Em Wed, 23 Jan 2013 21:55:00 +0200
> Antti Palosaari escreveu:
>
> > On 01/23/2013 08:57 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> > > Em Wed, 23 Jan 2013 16:18:01 -0200
> > > Mauro Carvalho Chehab escreveu:
> > >
> > >> I'll soon p
Em Wed, 23 Jan 2013 21:55:00 +0200
Antti Palosaari escreveu:
> On 01/23/2013 08:57 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> > Em Wed, 23 Jan 2013 16:18:01 -0200
> > Mauro Carvalho Chehab escreveu:
> >
> >> I'll soon post patches 1 and 2 after those changes. The remaining 4 patches
> >> don't likely ne
On 01/23/2013 08:57 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em Wed, 23 Jan 2013 16:18:01 -0200
Mauro Carvalho Chehab escreveu:
I'll soon post patches 1 and 2 after those changes. The remaining 4 patches
don't likely need any change.
Actually, it sounds better to just do a diff between the two versi
Em Wed, 23 Jan 2013 16:18:01 -0200
Mauro Carvalho Chehab escreveu:
> I'll soon post patches 1 and 2 after those changes. The remaining 4 patches
> don't likely need any change.
Actually, it sounds better to just do a diff between the two versions.
Each individual patch on v13 is at:
htt
Em Wed, 23 Jan 2013 17:08:59 +0200
Antti Palosaari escreveu:
> On 01/22/2013 02:16 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> > Em Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:11:08 +0200
> > Antti Palosaari escreveu:
> >
> >
> > DTV_STAT_BIT_ERROR_COUNT
> >
> >
> > Measures the number of bit errors bef
On 01/23/2013 05:08 PM, Antti Palosaari wrote:
On 01/22/2013 02:16 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:11:08 +0200
Antti Palosaari escreveu:
I forget to mention the most important thing - I didn't saw any
functionality problems!
regards
Antti
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On 01/22/2013 02:16 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:11:08 +0200
Antti Palosaari escreveu:
On 01/17/2013 08:50 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em Fri, 18 Jan 2013 00:07:17 +0530
Manu Abraham escreveu:
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Antti Palosaari wrote:
Res
Em Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:11:08 +0200
Antti Palosaari escreveu:
> On 01/17/2013 08:50 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> > Em Fri, 18 Jan 2013 00:07:17 +0530
> > Manu Abraham escreveu:
> >
> >> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Antti Palosaari wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Resetting counters when
Em Wed, 16 Jan 2013 20:01:53 -0200
Mauro Carvalho Chehab escreveu:
> Em Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:29:28 +
> Simon Farnsworth escreveu:
...
> > So, how do you provide such information?
...
I just finished to code it on my experimental tree:
http://git.linuxtv.org/mchehab/experimental-v4l
Em Fri, 18 Jan 2013 00:22:00 +0200
Antti Palosaari escreveu:
> My propose was to ask if we could add some generic calculations for the
> DVB-core, so that implementing only one method for the driver is enough.
> If app is asking relative value and driver does dB, then DVB-core makes
> conversi
On 01/17/2013 11:29 PM, Manu Abraham wrote:
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:41 AM, Antti Palosaari wrote:
On 01/17/2013 08:50 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em Fri, 18 Jan 2013 00:07:17 +0530
Manu Abraham escreveu:
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Antti Palosaari wrote:
Resetting counte
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:41 AM, Antti Palosaari wrote:
> On 01/17/2013 08:50 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
>>
>> Em Fri, 18 Jan 2013 00:07:17 +0530
>> Manu Abraham escreveu:
>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Antti Palosaari wrote:
>>>
Resetting counters when user tunes
Em Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:11:08 +0200
Antti Palosaari escreveu:
> On 01/17/2013 08:50 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> > Em Fri, 18 Jan 2013 00:07:17 +0530
> > Manu Abraham escreveu:
> >
> >> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Antti Palosaari wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Resetting counters when
On 01/17/2013 08:50 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em Fri, 18 Jan 2013 00:07:17 +0530
Manu Abraham escreveu:
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Antti Palosaari wrote:
Resetting counters when user tunes channel sounds the only correct option.
This might not be correct, especially when
Em Fri, 18 Jan 2013 00:07:17 +0530
Manu Abraham escreveu:
> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Antti Palosaari wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Resetting counters when user tunes channel sounds the only correct option.
> >
>
> This might not be correct, especially when we have true Multiple Input
> Stream
Em Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:22:06 +0200
Antti Palosaari escreveu:
> On 01/17/2013 07:16 PM, Manu Abraham wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Antti Palosaari wrote:
> >> On 01/17/2013 05:40 AM, Manu Abraham wrote:
> >>> MB86A20 is not the only demodulator driver with the Linux DVB.
> >>> And n
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Antti Palosaari wrote:
>
>
> Resetting counters when user tunes channel sounds the only correct option.
>
This might not be correct, especially when we have true Multiple Input Streams.
The tune might be single, but the filter setup would be different. In
which
On 01/17/2013 08:11 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:15:22 +0200
Antti Palosaari escreveu:
On 01/17/2013 06:50 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em Thu, 17 Jan 2013 11:33:46 +0200
Antti Palosaari escreveu:
What goes to these units in general, dB conversion is done by
Em Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:15:22 +0200
Antti Palosaari escreveu:
> On 01/17/2013 06:50 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> > Em Thu, 17 Jan 2013 11:33:46 +0200
> > Antti Palosaari escreveu:
> >
> >> What goes to these units in general, dB conversion is done by the driver
> >> about always. It is quit
On 17.01.2013 18:37, Klaus Schmidinger wrote:
On 17.01.2013 18:22, Antti Palosaari wrote:
On 01/17/2013 07:16 PM, Manu Abraham wrote:
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Antti Palosaari wrote:
On 01/17/2013 05:40 AM, Manu Abraham wrote:
MB86A20 is not the only demodulator driver with the Linux
On 17.01.2013 18:22, Antti Palosaari wrote:
On 01/17/2013 07:16 PM, Manu Abraham wrote:
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Antti Palosaari wrote:
On 01/17/2013 05:40 AM, Manu Abraham wrote:
MB86A20 is not the only demodulator driver with the Linux DVB.
And not all devices can output in dB scale
On 01/17/2013 07:16 PM, Manu Abraham wrote:
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Antti Palosaari wrote:
On 01/17/2013 05:40 AM, Manu Abraham wrote:
MB86A20 is not the only demodulator driver with the Linux DVB.
And not all devices can output in dB scale proposed by you, But any device
output can b
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Antti Palosaari wrote:
> On 01/17/2013 05:40 AM, Manu Abraham wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:31 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Em Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:29:28 +
>>> Simon Farnsworth escreveu:
>>>
On Wednesday 16 January 2013 23:56:48 Ma
On 01/17/2013 06:50 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em Thu, 17 Jan 2013 11:33:46 +0200
Antti Palosaari escreveu:
What goes to these units in general, dB conversion is done by the driver
about always. It is quite hard or even impossible to find out that
formula unless you has adjustable test s
Em Thu, 17 Jan 2013 11:33:46 +0200
Antti Palosaari escreveu:
> What goes to these units in general, dB conversion is done by the driver
> about always. It is quite hard or even impossible to find out that
> formula unless you has adjustable test signal generator.
>
> Also we could not offer a
On 01/17/2013 05:40 AM, Manu Abraham wrote:
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:31 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab
wrote:
Em Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:29:28 +
Simon Farnsworth escreveu:
On Wednesday 16 January 2013 23:56:48 Manu Abraham wrote:
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab
It is
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:31 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab
wrote:
> Em Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:29:28 +
> Simon Farnsworth escreveu:
>
>> On Wednesday 16 January 2013 23:56:48 Manu Abraham wrote:
>> > On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab
>>
>> > >
>> > > It is a common sense that t
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:41 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab
wrote:
> Em Thu, 17 Jan 2013 03:07:21 +0530
> Manu Abraham escreveu:
>
>> With ISDB-T, with the 3 layers, you have BER/UNC for each of the layers,
>> though
>> the rate difference could be very little.
>
> Where? There's no way to report per
Em Thu, 17 Jan 2013 03:07:21 +0530
Manu Abraham escreveu:
> With ISDB-T, with the 3 layers, you have BER/UNC for each of the layers,
> though
> the rate difference could be very little.
Where? There's no way to report per-layer report with DVBv3.
And no, the difference is not very little:
$ d
Em Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:29:28 +
Simon Farnsworth escreveu:
> On Wednesday 16 January 2013 23:56:48 Manu Abraham wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab
>
> > >
> > > It is a common sense that the existing API is broken. If my proposal
> > > requires adjustments, ple
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 12:52 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab
wrote:
> Em Wed, 16 Jan 2013 23:56:48 +0530
> Manu Abraham escreveu:
>
>> Consider this simple situation:
>> Your new API is using get_frontend and is polling the hardware, Now an
>> existing application is also doing monitoring of the stati
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 12:59 AM, Simon Farnsworth
wrote:
> On Wednesday 16 January 2013 23:56:48 Manu Abraham wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab
>
>> >
>> > It is a common sense that the existing API is broken. If my proposal
>> > requires adjustments, please comme
On Wednesday 16 January 2013 23:56:48 Manu Abraham wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab
> >
> > It is a common sense that the existing API is broken. If my proposal
> > requires adjustments, please comment on each specific patchset, instead
> > of filling this thread of
Em Wed, 16 Jan 2013 23:56:48 +0530
Manu Abraham escreveu:
> Consider this simple situation:
> Your new API is using get_frontend and is polling the hardware, Now an
> existing application is also doing monitoring of the statistics. So, now all
> the decision box calculations are screwed.
-EREADT
Al 16/01/2013 5:26, En/na Manu Abraham ha escrit:
The simplest and easiest way to achieve commonality between the various
demodulators is to use the existing API and scale whatever documented
demodulators to that scacle, to best possible way, rather than adding more
ambiguity and breakage.
Not
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab
wrote:
>> If you have sufficient documentation, you can scale your demodulator
>> statistics
>> to fit in that window area. I had done something similarly with a MB86A16
>> demodulator. IIRC, some effort was done on the STV0900 and STV0903
Em Wed, 16 Jan 2013 20:49:05 +0530
Manu Abraham escreveu:
> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 7:26 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab
> wrote:
> > Em Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:56:12 +0530
> > Manu Abraham escreveu:
> >
> >> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 2:07 AM, Antti Palosaari wrote:
> >> > On 01/15/2013 07:12 PM, Mauro Ca
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 7:26 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab
wrote:
> Em Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:56:12 +0530
> Manu Abraham escreveu:
>
>> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 2:07 AM, Antti Palosaari wrote:
>> > On 01/15/2013 07:12 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Em Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:26:17 +0200
>> >>
Em Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:56:12 +0530
Manu Abraham escreveu:
> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 2:07 AM, Antti Palosaari wrote:
> > On 01/15/2013 07:12 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> >>
> >> Em Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:26:17 +0200
> >> Antti Palosaari escreveu:
> >>
> >>> On 01/15/2013 04:49 PM, Antti Palos
Em Tue, 15 Jan 2013 22:37:40 +0200
Antti Palosaari escreveu:
> On 01/15/2013 07:12 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> > Em Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:26:17 +0200
> > Antti Palosaari escreveu:
> >
> >> On 01/15/2013 04:49 PM, Antti Palosaari wrote:
> >>> I am a little bit lazy to read all those patches,
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 2:07 AM, Antti Palosaari wrote:
> On 01/15/2013 07:12 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
>>
>> Em Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:26:17 +0200
>> Antti Palosaari escreveu:
>>
>>> On 01/15/2013 04:49 PM, Antti Palosaari wrote:
I am a little bit lazy to read all those patches, bu
On 01/15/2013 07:12 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:26:17 +0200
Antti Palosaari escreveu:
On 01/15/2013 04:49 PM, Antti Palosaari wrote:
I am a little bit lazy to read all those patches, but I assume it is
possible:
* return SNR (CNR) as both dB and linear?
* return si
Em Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:26:17 +0200
Antti Palosaari escreveu:
> On 01/15/2013 04:49 PM, Antti Palosaari wrote:
> > I am a little bit lazy to read all those patches, but I assume it is
> > possible:
> > * return SNR (CNR) as both dB and linear?
> > * return signal strength as both dBm and linear?
>
Em Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:47:50 -0500
Devin Heitmueller escreveu:
> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab
> wrote:
> >> Lets say SS, SNR, BER, UCB are queried, but only SS and SNR are ready to
> >> be returned, whilst rest are not possible? As I remember DVBv5 API is
> >> broken b
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab
wrote:
>> Lets say SS, SNR, BER, UCB are queried, but only SS and SNR are ready to
>> be returned, whilst rest are not possible? As I remember DVBv5 API is
>> broken by design and cannot return error code per request.
>
> The one(s) not avail
On 01/15/2013 04:49 PM, Antti Palosaari wrote:
I am a little bit lazy to read all those patches, but I assume it is
possible:
* return SNR (CNR) as both dB and linear?
* return signal strength as both dBm and linear?
And what happens when when multiple statistics are queried, but fronted
cannot
Em Tue, 15 Jan 2013 16:08:14 +0530
Manu Abraham escreveu:
> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab
> wrote:
> > Add DVBv5 methods to retrieve QoS statistics.
> >
> > Those methods allow per-layer and global statistics.
> >
> > Implemented 2 QoS statistics on mb86a20s, one global
Em Tue, 15 Jan 2013 16:49:07 +0200
Antti Palosaari escreveu:
> On 01/15/2013 03:10 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> > Em Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:34:37 +0200
> > Antti Palosaari escreveu:
> >
> >> On 01/15/2013 04:30 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> >>
> >>> v6: Add DocBook documentation.
>
On 01/15/2013 03:10 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Em Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:34:37 +0200
Antti Palosaari escreveu:
On 01/15/2013 04:30 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
v6: Add DocBook documentation.
v7: Some fixes as suggested by Antti
v8: Documentation fix, compilation fix
Em Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:34:37 +0200
Antti Palosaari escreveu:
> On 01/15/2013 04:30 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
>
> > v6: Add DocBook documentation.
> > v7: Some fixes as suggested by Antti
> > v8: Documentation fix, compilation fix and name the stats struct,
> > for
Em Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:55:48 +0200
Antti Palosaari escreveu:
> On 01/15/2013 10:20 AM, Johannes Stezenbach wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:30:46AM -0200, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> >> Add DVBv5 methods to retrieve QoS statistics.
> >
> > According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qos:
>
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab
wrote:
> Add DVBv5 methods to retrieve QoS statistics.
>
> Those methods allow per-layer and global statistics.
>
> Implemented 2 QoS statistics on mb86a20s, one global only
> (signal strengh), and one per layer (BER).
>
> Tested with a modifi
On 01/15/2013 04:30 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
v6: Add DocBook documentation.
v7: Some fixes as suggested by Antti
v8: Documentation fix, compilation fix and name the stats struct,
for its reusage inside the core
v9: counters need 32 bits. So, change the return
On 01/15/2013 10:20 AM, Johannes Stezenbach wrote:
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:30:46AM -0200, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
Add DVBv5 methods to retrieve QoS statistics.
According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qos:
"Quality of service in computer network trafficking refers
to resource reservat
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:30:46AM -0200, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> Add DVBv5 methods to retrieve QoS statistics.
According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qos:
"Quality of service in computer network trafficking refers
to resource reservation control mechanisms"
I think it is misleading to
Add DVBv5 methods to retrieve QoS statistics.
Those methods allow per-layer and global statistics.
Implemented 2 QoS statistics on mb86a20s, one global only
(signal strengh), and one per layer (BER).
Tested with a modified version of dvbv5-zap, that allows monitoring
those stats. Test data follo
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