Hi Mauro,
On Monday 13 September 2010 16:38:03 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> Em 13-09-2010 10:49, Andy Walls escreveu:
> > On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 08:45 -0300, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> >> Em 13-09-2010 05:06, Hans Verkuil escreveu:
> >>> On Monday, September 13, 2010 09:04:18 Laurent Pinchart
Em 13-09-2010 10:49, Andy Walls escreveu:
> On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 08:45 -0300, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
>> Em 13-09-2010 05:06, Hans Verkuil escreveu:
>>> On Monday, September 13, 2010 09:04:18 Laurent Pinchart wrote:
Hi Hans,
On Thursday 09 September 2010 13:48:58 Hans de Goede
On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 08:45 -0300, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> Em 13-09-2010 05:06, Hans Verkuil escreveu:
> > On Monday, September 13, 2010 09:04:18 Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> >> Hi Hans,
> >>
> >> On Thursday 09 September 2010 13:48:58 Hans de Goede wrote:
> >>> On 09/09/2010 03:29 PM, Hans Ver
Em 13-09-2010 05:06, Hans Verkuil escreveu:
> On Monday, September 13, 2010 09:04:18 Laurent Pinchart wrote:
>> Hi Hans,
>>
>> On Thursday 09 September 2010 13:48:58 Hans de Goede wrote:
>>> On 09/09/2010 03:29 PM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> On 09/09/2010 08:55 AM, Peter Korsgaard wrote:
>> "Han
On Monday, September 13, 2010 09:04:18 Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> Hi Hans,
>
> On Thursday 09 September 2010 13:48:58 Hans de Goede wrote:
> > On 09/09/2010 03:29 PM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> > >> On 09/09/2010 08:55 AM, Peter Korsgaard wrote:
> > >>> "Hans" == Hans Verkuil writes:
> > >>>
> > >>>
Hi Hans,
On Thursday 09 September 2010 13:48:58 Hans de Goede wrote:
> On 09/09/2010 03:29 PM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> >> On 09/09/2010 08:55 AM, Peter Korsgaard wrote:
> >>> "Hans" == Hans Verkuil writes:
> >>>
> >>> I originally was in favor of controlling these through v4l as well, but
> >>> p
On Monday, September 13, 2010 08:47:24 Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> Hi Hans,
>
> On Tuesday 07 September 2010 11:47:22 Hans Verkuil wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > But I can guarantee that we will get video devices with multiple leds in
> > the future.
>
> What about devices with illumination LEDs that ca
Hi Alex,
On Wednesday 08 September 2010 21:27:19 Alex Deucher wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Peter Korsgaard wrote:
> >> "Andy" == Andy Walls writes:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Andy> Incandescent and Halogen lamps that effect an image coming into a
> > Andy> camera are *not* LEDs that blin
Hi Hans,
On Tuesday 07 September 2010 23:14:10 Hans de Goede wrote:
> On 09/07/2010 05:30 PM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
[snip]
> Also note that at least with the uvc driver that due to how extension
> unit controls are working (the uvcvideo driver gets told about these
> vendor specific controls from
Hi Hans,
On Tuesday 07 September 2010 11:47:22 Hans Verkuil wrote:
[snip]
> But I can guarantee that we will get video devices with multiple leds in
> the future.
What about devices with illumination LEDs that can be dimmed ?
> So we need to think *now* about how to do this. One simple
> optio
On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 08:07 +0200, Jean-Francois Moine wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 20:58:18 +0200
> Hi,
>
> If I may resume this exchange:
>
> - the (microscope or device dependant) illuminators may be controlled
> by v4l2,
I agree.
> - the status LED should be controlled by the LED interf
On Fri, 2010-09-10 at 09:19 +0200, Peter Korsgaard wrote:
> > "Andy" == Andy Walls writes:
>
> Hi,
>
> Andy> Given choices I made when I patched up gspca/cpia1.c for my
> Andy> prototype LED API usage, I got these associations
>
> Andy> By exposed LED name:
>
> Andy>/sys/class/
> "Andy" == Andy Walls writes:
Hi,
Andy> Given choices I made when I patched up gspca/cpia1.c for my
Andy> prototype LED API usage, I got these associations
Andy> By exposed LED name:
Andy> /sys/class/leds/video0:white:illuminator0
Indeed. But didn't we just decide that illuminators
On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 16:17 +0200, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> > Hans,
> > I'll have more later, but I can say, if LED API is what we agree to, we
> > should have infrastructure in v4l2 at a level higher than gspca for
> > helping drivers use the LED interface and triggers.
> >
> >
> > Specifically this
On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 15:17 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 09/09/2010 04:41 PM, Andy Walls wrote:
> > Hans de Goede,
> >
> > The uvc API that creates v4l2 ctrls on behalf of userspace could intercept
> > those calls and create an LED interface instead of, or in addition to, the
> > v4l
> "Hans" == Hans Verkuil writes:
Hi,
Hans> But I feel I am missing something: who is supposed to use these LEDs?
Hans> Turning LEDs in e.g. webcams on or off is a job for the driver, never for
Hans> a userspace application.
Agreed - By default, the driver should just turn on the LED when
Hi,
On 09/09/2010 04:41 PM, Andy Walls wrote:
Hans de Goede,
The uvc API that creates v4l2 ctrls on behalf of userspace could intercept
those calls and create an LED interface instead of, or in addition to, the v4l2
ctrl.
That would mean special casing certain extension controls which I don
Hi,
On 09/09/2010 04:14 PM, Andy Walls wrote:
I'm of the mind that independent boolean illuminator controls are Ok. I think
that scales better. Not that I could imagine many in use for 1 camera anyway,
but some may be colors other than white.
Illuminator0 should always correspond to the mos
Hans de Goede,
The uvc API that creates v4l2 ctrls on behalf of userspace could intercept
those calls and create an LED interface instead of, or in addition to, the v4l2
ctrl.
Until udev, hal, pam, and polkit userspace configurations catch up, one still
has the problem of the sysfs LED files n
> Hans,
> I'll have more later, but I can say, if LED API is what we agree to, we
> should have infrastructure in v4l2 at a level higher than gspca for
> helping drivers use the LED interface and triggers.
>
>
> Specifically this is needed to make discovery and association of v4l2
> devices, expos
I'm of the mind that independent boolean illuminator controls are Ok. I think
that scales better. Not that I could imagine many in use for 1 camera anyway,
but some may be colors other than white.
Illuminator0 should always correspond to the most common default application of
the device.
I r
Hans,
I'll have more later, but I can say, if LED API is what we agree to, we should
have infrastructure in v4l2 at a level higher than gspca for helping drivers
use the LED interface and triggers.
Specifically this is needed to make discovery and association of v4l2 devices,
exposed v4l2 LEDs
Hi,
On 09/09/2010 03:29 PM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
Hi,
On 09/09/2010 08:55 AM, Peter Korsgaard wrote:
"Hans" == Hans Verkuil writes:
Hi,
>> - the status LED should be controlled by the LED interface.
Hans> I originally was in favor of controlling these through v4l as
Hans>
> Hi,
>
> On 09/09/2010 08:55 AM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
>> On Tuesday, September 07, 2010 23:14:10 Hans de Goede wrote:
>
>
>
>>> How about a compromise, we add a set of standard defines for menu
>>> index meanings, with a note that these are present as a way to
>>> standardize
>>> things between d
> Hi,
>
> On 09/09/2010 08:55 AM, Peter Korsgaard wrote:
>>> "Hans" == Hans Verkuil writes:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> >> - the status LED should be controlled by the LED interface.
>>
>> Hans> I originally was in favor of controlling these through v4l as
>> Hans> well, but people made some goo
Hi,
On 09/09/2010 08:55 AM, Peter Korsgaard wrote:
"Hans" == Hans Verkuil writes:
Hi,
>> - the status LED should be controlled by the LED interface.
Hans> I originally was in favor of controlling these through v4l as
Hans> well, but people made some good arguments against that. The
Hi,
On 09/09/2010 08:55 AM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
On Tuesday, September 07, 2010 23:14:10 Hans de Goede wrote:
How about a compromise, we add a set of standard defines for menu
index meanings, with a note that these are present as a way to standardize
things between drivers, but that some dri
> "Hans" == Hans Verkuil writes:
Hi,
>> - the status LED should be controlled by the LED interface.
Hans> I originally was in favor of controlling these through v4l as
Hans> well, but people made some good arguments against that. The main
Hans> one being: why would you want to show the
On Tuesday, September 07, 2010 23:14:10 Hans de Goede wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 09/07/2010 05:30 PM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 07, 2010 15:04:55 Hans de Goede wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On 09/07/2010 04:50 PM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
>
>
>
> Both off
> Top on, Bottom off
> >>
On Thursday, September 09, 2010 08:07:02 Jean-Francois Moine wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 20:58:18 +0200
> Peter Korsgaard wrote:
> > > "Andy" == Andy Walls writes:
> > Andy> Incandescent and Halogen lamps that effect an image coming
> > Andy> into a camera are *not* LEDs that blink or flas
On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 20:58:18 +0200
Peter Korsgaard wrote:
> > "Andy" == Andy Walls writes:
> Andy> Incandescent and Halogen lamps that effect an image coming
> Andy> into a camera are *not* LEDs that blink or flash automatically
> Andy> based on driver or system trigger events. They are c
On Wed, 2010-09-08 at 15:27 -0400, Alex Deucher wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Peter Korsgaard wrote:
> >> "Andy" == Andy Walls writes:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Andy> Incandescent and Halogen lamps that effect an image coming into a
> > Andy> camera are *not* LEDs that blink or flash a
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Peter Korsgaard wrote:
>> "Andy" == Andy Walls writes:
>
> Hi,
>
> Andy> Incandescent and Halogen lamps that effect an image coming into a
> Andy> camera are *not* LEDs that blink or flash automatically based on
> Andy> driver or system trigger events. They
> "Andy" == Andy Walls writes:
Hi,
Andy> Incandescent and Halogen lamps that effect an image coming into a
Andy> camera are *not* LEDs that blink or flash automatically based on
Andy> driver or system trigger events. They are components of a video
Andy> capture system with which a human
On Wed, 2010-09-08 at 10:59 +0300, Eduardo Valentin wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 04:16:48AM +0200, ext Eino-Ville Talvala wrote:
> >
> > This is probably a bit OT, but these sorts of indicator LEDs can get quite
> > complicated.
> >
> > As part of our FCamera sample program on t
Hello,
On Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 04:16:48AM +0200, ext Eino-Ville Talvala wrote:
>
> This is probably a bit OT, but these sorts of indicator LEDs can get quite
> complicated.
>
> As part of our FCamera sample program on the Nokia N900 (which uses V4L2 way
> down there), we wanted to reprogram t
On Wednesday, September 08, 2010 00:29:51 Theodore Kilgore wrote:
>
> On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, Hans Verkuil wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, September 07, 2010 20:42:07 Hans Verkuil wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, September 07, 2010 19:57:18 Jean-Francois Moine wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 17:30:33 +0200
> > >
This is probably a bit OT, but these sorts of indicator LEDs can get quite
complicated.
As part of our FCamera sample program on the Nokia N900 (which uses V4L2 way
down there), we wanted to reprogram the front indicator LED to flash exactly
when a picture is taken. The N900 front LED is quit
Hi,
On 09/07/2010 05:30 PM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
On Tuesday, September 07, 2010 15:04:55 Hans de Goede wrote:
Hi,
On 09/07/2010 04:50 PM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
Both off
Top on, Bottom off
Top off, Bottom on
Both on
Which raises the question do we leave this as is, or do we make this 2 boole
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 07, 2010 20:42:07 Hans Verkuil wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 07, 2010 19:57:18 Jean-Francois Moine wrote:
> > > On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 17:30:33 +0200
> > > Hans Verkuil wrote:
> > >
> > > > enum v4l2_illuminator {
> > > > V
On Tuesday, September 07, 2010 20:42:07 Hans Verkuil wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 07, 2010 19:57:18 Jean-Francois Moine wrote:
> > On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 17:30:33 +0200
> > Hans Verkuil wrote:
> >
> > > enum v4l2_illuminator {
> > > V4L2_ILLUMINATOR_OFF = 0,
> > > V4L2_ILLUMINATOR_O
It has already been discussed. Please check the list archives for the past few
days.
Do you know of any V4L2 application developer or development team that prefers
to use a separate API just to turn lights on and off, when all other aspects of
the incoming video are controlled with the V4L2 co
Hello,
On Mon, Sep 06, 2010 at 08:11:05PM +0200, ext Jean-Francois Moine wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This new proposal cancels the previous 'LED control' patch.
>
> Cheers.
>
> --
> Ken ar c'hentañ | ** Breizh ha Linux atav! **
> Jef | http://moinejf.free.fr/
Ap
On Tuesday, September 07, 2010 19:57:18 Jean-Francois Moine wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 17:30:33 +0200
> Hans Verkuil wrote:
>
> > enum v4l2_illuminator {
> > V4L2_ILLUMINATOR_OFF = 0,
> > V4L2_ILLUMINATOR_ON = 1,
> > };
> > #define V4L2_CID_ILLUMINATOR_0 (V4L2_CID_BA
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 17:30:33 +0200
Hans Verkuil wrote:
> enum v4l2_illuminator {
> V4L2_ILLUMINATOR_OFF = 0,
> V4L2_ILLUMINATOR_ON = 1,
> };
> #define V4L2_CID_ILLUMINATOR_0 (V4L2_CID_BASE+37)
> #define V4L2_CID_ILLUMINATOR_1 (V4L2_CID_BASE+38)
>
> enum v
Look for a recent patch I sent to the list for gspca_cpia for the Intel Play
QX3 microscope. (The cpia2 driver handles the QX5)
Illuminator seems to be the standard term in both microscopy and IR photgraphy.
I also saw it in plain photography contexts. Just ask the Google...
Regards,
Andy
Ha
On Tuesday, September 07, 2010 15:04:55 Hans de Goede wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 09/07/2010 04:50 PM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 07, 2010 13:59:19 Hans de Goede wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> On 09/07/2010 11:47 AM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, September 07, 2010 11:44:18 Hans
Hi,
On 09/07/2010 04:50 PM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
On Tuesday, September 07, 2010 13:59:19 Hans de Goede wrote:
Hi all,
On 09/07/2010 11:47 AM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
On Tuesday, September 07, 2010 11:44:18 Hans de Goede wrote:
Replying to myself.
On 09/07/2010 11:42 AM, Hans de Goede wrote:
Hi,
On Tuesday, September 07, 2010 13:59:19 Hans de Goede wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> On 09/07/2010 11:47 AM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 07, 2010 11:44:18 Hans de Goede wrote:
> >> Replying to myself.
> >>
> >> On 09/07/2010 11:42 AM, Hans de Goede wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> On 09/07/201
Hi all,
On 09/07/2010 11:47 AM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
On Tuesday, September 07, 2010 11:44:18 Hans de Goede wrote:
Replying to myself.
On 09/07/2010 11:42 AM, Hans de Goede wrote:
Hi,
On 09/07/2010 09:30 AM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
On Monday, September 06, 2010 20:11:05 Jean-Francois Moine wrote:
On Tuesday, September 07, 2010 11:44:18 Hans de Goede wrote:
> Replying to myself.
>
> On 09/07/2010 11:42 AM, Hans de Goede wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On 09/07/2010 09:30 AM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> >> On Monday, September 06, 2010 20:11:05 Jean-Francois Moine wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> This new prop
Replying to myself.
On 09/07/2010 11:42 AM, Hans de Goede wrote:
Hi,
On 09/07/2010 09:30 AM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
On Monday, September 06, 2010 20:11:05 Jean-Francois Moine wrote:
Hi,
This new proposal cancels the previous 'LED control' patch.
Cheers.
Hi Jean-Francois,
You must also add
Hi,
On 09/07/2010 09:30 AM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
On Monday, September 06, 2010 20:11:05 Jean-Francois Moine wrote:
Hi,
This new proposal cancels the previous 'LED control' patch.
Cheers.
Hi Jean-Francois,
You must also add support for these new controls in v4l2-ctrls.c in
v4l2_ctrl_get_me
On Monday, September 06, 2010 20:11:05 Jean-Francois Moine wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This new proposal cancels the previous 'LED control' patch.
>
> Cheers.
>
>
Hi Jean-Francois,
You must also add support for these new controls in v4l2-ctrls.c in
v4l2_ctrl_get_menu(), v4l2_ctrl_get_name() and v4l2_ctr
Hi,
Looks good to me.
Acked-by: Hans de Goede
Regards,
Hans
On 09/06/2010 08:11 PM, Jean-Francois Moine wrote:
Hi,
This new proposal cancels the previous 'LED control' patch.
Cheers.
-- Ken ar c'hentañ | ** Breizh ha Linux atav! ** Jef | http://moinejf.free.fr/
led.patch
Some media d
Hi,
This new proposal cancels the previous 'LED control' patch.
Cheers.
--
Ken ar c'hentañ | ** Breizh ha Linux atav! **
Jef | http://moinejf.free.fr/
Some media devices (microscopes) may have one or many illuminators,
and most webcams have a status LED whi
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