On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:11 PM, Steve Grubb wrote:
> The system being low on entropy is another problem that should be addressed.
> For our
> purposes, we cannot say take it from TPM or RDRND or any plugin board. We
> have to have
> the mathematical analysis that goes with it, we need to know w
From: Steve Grubb
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 07:48:27 -0400
> On Thursday, September 08, 2011 04:44:20 AM Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 11:27:12PM +0200, Stephan Mueller wrote:
>> > And exactly that is the concern from organizations like BSI. Their
>> > cryptographer's concern is
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 09:11:12AM -0400, Steve Grubb wrote:
> On Thursday, September 08, 2011 08:52:34 AM Neil Horman wrote:
> > > to disk device - of course only if the device adds entropy into the
> > > primary pool when there are writes on the device.
> >
> > Yes, and thats a problem. We're a
On Thursday, September 08, 2011 08:52:34 AM Neil Horman wrote:
> > to disk device - of course only if the device adds entropy into the
> > primary pool when there are writes on the device.
>
> Yes, and thats a problem. We're assuming in the above case that writes to
> disk generate interrupts whi
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 08:41:57AM +0200, Tomas Mraz wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 19:57 -0400, Neil Horman wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 04:56:49PM -0400, Steve Grubb wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, September 07, 2011 04:37:57 PM Sasha Levin wrote:
> > > > Anyway, it won't happen fast enough to
On Thursday, September 08, 2011 04:44:20 AM Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 11:27:12PM +0200, Stephan Mueller wrote:
> > And exactly that is the concern from organizations like BSI. Their
> > cryptographer's concern is that due to the volume of data that you can
> > extract from
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 11:27:12PM +0200, Stephan Mueller wrote:
> And exactly that is the concern from organizations like BSI. Their
> cryptographer's concern is that due to the volume of data that you can
> extract from /dev/urandom, you may find cycles or patterns that increase
> the probability
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 05:18:58PM -0400, Ted Ts'o wrote:
> If this is the basis for the patch, then we should definitely NACK it.
> It sounds like snake oil fear mongering.
You're around long enough to know that Steve and his gang do nothing but
selling snake oil.
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On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 04:02:24PM -0400, Steve Grubb wrote:
> The only time this kicks in is when a system is under attack. If you have set
> this and
> the system is running as normal, you will never notice it even there.
So your userspace will break exactly when you least need it and can't
de
On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 17:43 -0400, Steve Grubb wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 07, 2011 05:35:18 PM Jarod Wilson wrote:
> > Another proposal that has been kicked around: a 3rd random chardev,
> > which implements this functionality, leaving urandom unscathed. Some
> > udev magic or a driver para
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