Re: Overheating Pandas

2013-07-04 Thread Renato Golin
On 4 July 2013 19:15, Mans Rullgard wrote: > Chips intended for compute clusters will no doubt be possible to cool > sufficiently to run at full speed all the time. Designing chips for > different > markets involves different sets of tradeoffs, and you're seeing the result > of that. > Yes, thi

Re: Overheating Pandas

2013-07-04 Thread Mans Rullgard
On 4 July 2013 18:10, Renato Golin wrote: > On 4 July 2013 17:13, Siarhei Siamashka wrote: >> >> By the way, power consumption is not constant and heavily depends on >> what the CPU is actually doing. And 100% CPU load in one application >> does not mean that it would consume the same amount of p

Re: Overheating Pandas

2013-07-04 Thread Renato Golin
On 4 July 2013 17:34, Siarhei Siamashka wrote: > For getting reproducible benchmark results, you just need to ensure > that thermal throttling never kicks in. If the kernel is compiled > with cpufreq stats enabled, you can compare these stats before/after > your benchmark to ensure that it spent

Re: Overheating Pandas

2013-07-04 Thread Renato Golin
On 4 July 2013 17:13, Siarhei Siamashka wrote: > By the way, power consumption is not constant and heavily depends on > what the CPU is actually doing. And 100% CPU load in one application > does not mean that it would consume the same amount of power as 100% > CPU load in another application.

Re: Overheating Pandas

2013-07-04 Thread Siarhei Siamashka
On Wed, 3 Jul 2013 16:48:51 +0100 Renato Golin wrote: > But more to the point, I don't want to be scaled down when hot, I want it > never to get hot in the first place, so I can run at full 1.2GHz, 24 / 7. > If the scheduler reduces the frequency to decrease the temperature, I'll be > testing mor

Re: Overheating Pandas

2013-07-04 Thread Siarhei Siamashka
On Wed, 3 Jul 2013 15:59:47 +0100 Mans Rullgard wrote: > On 3 July 2013 14:13, Renato Golin wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > > > I'm running two buildbots here at home and am getting consistent failures > > from the Pandas because of overheating. I've set up a monitor that will tell > > me the current C

Re: [Linaro-validation] Overheating Pandas

2013-07-04 Thread Renato Golin
On 4 July 2013 12:58, James Tunnicliffe wrote: > Faster clocks also drink more power - now you are using slower clocks > those boards will be stressing the PSU less. That is true. Though, if memory serves me well, I think I was using one decent power supply and one cheap in the lab, and both Pan

Re: [Linaro-validation] Overheating Pandas

2013-07-04 Thread James Tunnicliffe
On 4 July 2013 12:27, Renato Golin wrote: > On 3 July 2013 18:33, Richard Earnshaw wrote: >> >> keep lowering the clock limit (.../cpufreq/scaling_max_freq) until you get >> stability. If you don't, then it isn't a heating problem. > > > It might be a bit too soon, but I just got a few 7h builds

Re: Overheating Pandas

2013-07-04 Thread Renato Golin
On 3 July 2013 18:33, Richard Earnshaw wrote: > keep lowering the clock limit (.../cpufreq/scaling_max_freq) until you get > stability. If you don't, then it isn't a heating problem. > It might be a bit too soon, but I just got a few 7h builds out of the boards at 920MHz without a single glitch

Re: [Linaro-validation] Overheating Pandas

2013-07-04 Thread Renato Golin
On 4 July 2013 11:29, Mans Rullgard wrote: > That is not how electricity works. > I may not have myself clear, I suppose... We can digress at Connect about electricity. cheers, --renato ___ linaro-toolchain mailing list linaro-toolchain@lists.linaro.o

Re: [Linaro-validation] Overheating Pandas

2013-07-04 Thread Mans Rullgard
On 4 July 2013 10:08, Renato Golin wrote: > On 4 July 2013 10:00, Milosz Wasilewski > wrote: >> >> What is the output current of this PSU? I tried running pandaboard >> with 2.5A PSU and it didn't even start. 3A seems to be the minimum. > > These are 5V and on my multimeter I got almost 6V, but i

Re: [Linaro-validation] Overheating Pandas

2013-07-04 Thread Renato Golin
On 4 July 2013 10:01, Matt Hart wrote: > I've just had a quick glance at the rack in LAVA Lab with the pandas in > it, and it seems like we are using the 5V 4A brick style power supplies, > not the cheap ones. > I know, but somewhere in the lab there's a box full of the cheap ones, and these are

Re: [Linaro-validation] Overheating Pandas

2013-07-04 Thread Renato Golin
On 4 July 2013 10:00, Milosz Wasilewski wrote: > What is the output current of this PSU? I tried running pandaboard > with 2.5A PSU and it didn't even start. 3A seems to be the minimum. > These are 5V and on my multimeter I got almost 6V, but it's not just the voltage, but the constant supply of

Re: [Linaro-validation] Overheating Pandas

2013-07-04 Thread Matt Hart
I've just had a quick glance at the rack in LAVA Lab with the pandas in it, and it seems like we are using the 5V 4A brick style power supplies, not the cheap ones. Matt On 4 July 2013 10:00, Milosz Wasilewski wrote: > On 4 July 2013 09:44, Renato Golin wrote: > > On 3 July 2013 23:01, Will Ne

Re: [Linaro-validation] Overheating Pandas

2013-07-04 Thread Milosz Wasilewski
On 4 July 2013 09:44, Renato Golin wrote: > On 3 July 2013 23:01, Will Newton wrote: >> >> It may also be worth examining your power supplies and see if they are >> providing enough current to run the chip this hot reliably. A bench >> supply could eliminate this possibility conclusively. > > > T

Re: Overheating Pandas

2013-07-04 Thread Renato Golin
On 3 July 2013 23:01, Will Newton wrote: > It may also be worth examining your power supplies and see if they are > providing enough current to run the chip this hot reliably. A bench > supply could eliminate this possibility conclusively. > They're cheap... *very* cheap... They're not the ones