Re: [Libreoffice-qa] What should we do with bugs filed against Extensions/Templates?

2013-03-28 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 12:08 AM, Robinson Tryon wrote: > The basic problem is that bugs are filed against Extensions and > Templates in the same manner as bugs filed against LibreOffice proper. > We had general agreement that the developer of the Extension should be > responsible for dealing with

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] about moztrap attachment missing :(

2013-03-28 Thread Thomas Hackert
Good morning Yifan, *, On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 11:09:24AM +0800, Yifan Jiang wrote: > I am happy things are clear now :) thanks for taking the time to answer all of my questions :) > On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 06:20:03PM +0100, Thomas Hackert wrote: > > > The features were not in Moztrap at the mom

[Libreoffice-qa] What should we do with bugs filed against Extensions/Templates?

2013-03-28 Thread Robinson Tryon
In our last QA Meeting we discussed what we should do with bugs filed against Extensions or Templates. We didn't make much headway on the discussion, as reflected in the minutes: -AGREED: Move discussion to email, try to find consensus, if not vote to decide -- [Note: From this point for

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] about moztrap attachment missing :(

2013-03-28 Thread Yifan Jiang
Hi Thomas, I am happy things are clear now :) On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 06:20:03PM +0100, Thomas Hackert wrote: > > Good idea, I also want to have a contribution list in a visible place. > > That would be great :) > > > The features were not in Moztrap at the moment, but I'd love to put it > > on

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] talkyoo issues

2013-03-28 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I have a suggestion. Would it be possible to have another VoIP server such as asterisk using the same numbers as a backup in case talkyoo has issues? On Mar 28, 2013 7:35 PM, "Florian Effenberger" < [email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > Christian kindly forwarded me the e-mail about talk

[Libreoffice-qa] Moztrap: Test case export?

2013-03-28 Thread Nino Novak
Hi, is there an test case export feature from Moztrap? In what kind of database are the cases stored? I'm asking because I somehow feel the necessity to organize the cases according to my own preferences. Therefore I thought it would be fine to export them and experiment locally. With Moztr

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.2 RC2 available

2013-03-28 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 10:59:34AM +0100, Thorsten Behrens wrote: > The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA > builds download page at > > http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/ and for Ubuntu users, you will find a packaged version for Ubuntu raring

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] talkyoo issues

2013-03-28 Thread Robinson Tryon
(dropping libreoffice-dev from cc) On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Hi, > > Christian kindly forwarded me the e-mail about talkyoo. Sorry to hear there > have been issues. > > In general, using Skype is *not* recommended. It *will* cause problems, it > *is* a pain, so

[Libreoffice-qa] talkyoo issues

2013-03-28 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Christian kindly forwarded me the e-mail about talkyoo. Sorry to hear there have been issues. In general, using Skype is *not* recommended. It *will* cause problems, it *is* a pain, so be warned. ;-) However, phone should work. Those of you who had problems, can you please e-mail me da

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Page for BSA process in other languages

2013-03-28 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Sophie Gautier wrote: > > In fact, it's less about the BSA technical part than about organizing > the NLP QA team dealing with the BSA reports. Hiya Sophie, Per the last QA meeting I've been assigned to coordinate with you on the creation of additional NLP BSA do

[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2013-03-28 Thread Michael Meeks
* Present + Stephan, David, Andras, Thorsten, Eike, Norbert, Cedric, Petr, Kohei, Bjoern, Markus, Michael M, Michael S, Cor * Completed Action Items + buy Mac build hardware (Thorsten) + GSOC: grab Kendy on IRC + file UX ideas together (Astron) * Pending Action I

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice-QA] Minutes - March 22nd, 2013

2013-03-28 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I was thinking mumble can still be used but not as a callin solution. I think it can be used in conjunction with irc to discuss dev issues or even qa issues. -Original Message- From: Bjoern Michaelsen [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 28 March 2013 18:05 To: Christian Lohmaie

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] about moztrap attachment missing :(

2013-03-28 Thread Thomas Hackert
Hello Yifan, *, On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 11:51:19AM +0800, Yifan Jiang wrote: > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 07:02:02PM +0100, Thomas Hackert wrote: > > > You are right and the situation can be more than that. Say we have > > > three "Versions" as 0, 3.5, 4.0: > > > > > > 1. When creating a new test

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice-QA] Minutes - March 22nd, 2013

2013-03-28 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 05:37:53PM +0100, Christian Lohmaier wrote: > Don't understand the requirements for such a system - but if you want > to work on it, then seek for a solution to bridge mumble (or any > internet-only-subsitute) with talkyoo (or any other landline-reachable > tool). > ... > Bu

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice-QA] Minutes - March 22nd, 2013

2013-03-28 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
If we are wanting to add support for instance for Google video etc. jabber is the protocol we use and its open source too. -Original Message- From: Robinson Tryon [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 28 March 2013 17:41 To: Christian Lohmaier Cc: Jonathan Aquilina; Petr Mladek; Floria

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice-QA] Minutes - March 22nd, 2013

2013-03-28 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: >> If talkyoo is free why host it on TDF hardware? > > And it is not hosted on TDF-hardware. But talkyoo generously does > provide the service to the TDF free of charge. Ah, okay. I didn't know that Talkyoo provides us service free of ch

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice-QA] Minutes - March 22nd, 2013

2013-03-28 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Christian, Mumble won't work without some serious coding, which in my honest opinion isn't best use of time when alternative solutions already exist such as asterisk. -Original Message- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christian Lohmaier Sent: 28

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice-QA] Minutes - March 22nd, 2013

2013-03-28 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Jonathan On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > How quick are you guys wanting to test this out? I have a test server that > Robinson and I are going to use for testing out some media wiki stuff and > some possible git bridges for it. Technically we could probably use it a

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice-QA] Minutes - March 22nd, 2013

2013-03-28 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I am trying to get an understanding as to the issues that were faced in regards to the call on the 22nd. What I would be interested in is seeing if talkyoo would still be willing to act like a sip trunk provider but the TDF on tiff hardware sets up asterisk. -Original Message- From: lohma

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice-QA] Minutes - March 22nd, 2013

2013-03-28 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Christian Asterisk will allow you to use these international numbers as well. You will still need to have a sip trunk provider which the TDF probably already has as well as a dial in number. Mumble sadly doesn’t support the ability to interface with VoIP software at all. Someone actually on thei

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice-QA] Minutes - March 22nd, 2013

2013-03-28 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Björn, *, On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 03:49:54PM +0100, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: >> Sorry for another email. I just looked at the talkyoo site, all it seems like >> it's just a VoIP provider. not "just" a VoIP provider. It provides inter

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice-QA] Minutes - March 22nd, 2013

2013-03-28 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Jonathan, *, On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > Is talkyoo free and open source? We can add it to the list of things to test > in terms of other things that Robinson and I can work on if you guys are so > interested? > > If talkyoo is free why host it on TDF hardware

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice-QA] Minutes - March 22nd, 2013

2013-03-28 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
The little that was mentioned on the website is that it has a web interface, which I know when the thread was started that was something some people wanted. From: Joel Madero [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 28 March 2013 17:10 To: Jonathan Aquilina Cc: Robinson Tryon; Bjoern Michaelsen; P

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice-QA] Minutes - March 22nd, 2013

2013-03-28 Thread Joel Madero
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > I have done a bit of research, and it seems that Asterisk is the only > option > we have. Mumble doesn't have a dial in feature. > > Question becomes if we go with asterisk what options do we want and need if > we decide to go with a cust

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice-QA] Minutes - March 22nd, 2013

2013-03-28 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I have done a bit of research, and it seems that Asterisk is the only option we have. Mumble doesn't have a dial in feature. Question becomes if we go with asterisk what options do we want and need if we decide to go with a custom designed piece of software or use the readymade all in one setup th

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice-QA] Minutes - March 22nd, 2013

2013-03-28 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Seeing as the TDF already has the sip trunk in place. Why don't we make something lightweight with asterisk seeing as it's a framework for VoIP software creation. -Original Message- From: Robinson Tryon [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 28 March 2013 17:02 To: Joel Madero Cc: Jonat

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice-QA] Minutes - March 22nd, 2013

2013-03-28 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Joel Madero wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Jonathan Aquilina > wrote: >> >> How quick are you guys wanting to test this out? I have a test server that >> Robinson and I are going to use for testing out some media wiki stuff and >> some possible git b

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice-QA] Minutes - March 22nd, 2013

2013-03-28 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Then I won't even bother with mumble. I will look and see if it's possible if I can set it up with a sip trunk to allow phone ins then I'll do it if not asterisk would be the only option Btw im in qa eagles0513875 is my name on there From: Joel Madero [mailto:[email protected]] Sent

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice-QA] Minutes - March 22nd, 2013

2013-03-28 Thread Joel Madero
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > Ok question becomes is phone in ability a must? > Unfortunately it is. It is quite frequent that people are calling in via telephone (me always, but I know others do most of the time as well). Best, Joel -- *Joel Madero* LibreOffice

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice-QA] Minutes - March 22nd, 2013

2013-03-28 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Ok question becomes is phone in ability a must? From: Joel Madero [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 28 March 2013 16:56 To: Jonathan Aquilina Cc: Bjoern Michaelsen; Petr Mladek; Christian Lohmaier; Florian Reisinger; libreoffice-dev; Libreoffice-qa; Robinson Tryon; Joren Subject: Re: [Libre

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice-QA] Minutes - March 22nd, 2013

2013-03-28 Thread Joel Madero
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > I can get working on it right now actually. I will setup a dns record > which will be easy to remember for the mumble server and all that J I > could possibly have it ready in the next hour or so. > > ** ** > > Joel are you on irc so

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice-QA] Minutes - March 22nd, 2013

2013-03-28 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I'll admit I haven't setup asterisk but it's something I am very interested in learning. It seems like it's more a framework to develop custom VoIP solutions with asterisk as the back end. But they do have a nice ready to go is image with linux os and everything including the asterisk web interfa

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice-QA] Minutes - March 22nd, 2013

2013-03-28 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I can get working on it right now actually. I will setup a dns record which will be easy to remember for the mumble server and all that J I could possibly have it ready in the next hour or so. Joel are you on irc somewhere? That way you could test attempting to connect to the server for me

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice-QA] Minutes - March 22nd, 2013

2013-03-28 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Joel Madero wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Jonathan Aquilina > wrote: >> >> I do have some experience in setting that up. That is something I can help >> out with if you would like me to. > > > We would love to try something if there are options out

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice-QA] Minutes - March 22nd, 2013

2013-03-28 Thread Joel Madero
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > How quick are you guys wanting to test this out? I have a test server that > Robinson and I are going to use for testing out some media wiki stuff and > some possible git bridges for it. Technically we could probably use it as > another m

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice-QA] Minutes - March 22nd, 2013

2013-03-28 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
How quick are you guys wanting to test this out? I have a test server that Robinson and I are going to use for testing out some media wiki stuff and some possible git bridges for it. Technically we could probably use it as another medium for devs to meet on even just to sit there and discuss things

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice-QA] Minutes - March 22nd, 2013

2013-03-28 Thread Joel Madero
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > I do have some experience in setting that up. That is something I can help > out with if you would like me to. > We would love to try something if there are options out there. Thanks in advance if you attempt this. Best, Joel -- *Joe

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice-QA] Minutes - March 22nd, 2013

2013-03-28 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Regarding classical SIP there is only one windows pbx system that can support quite a large number of simultaneous calls and conference calls and that is 3cx. It has both hardphone support as well as soft phone as well as android and ios apps. If the board so desire im willing to grab the asterisk

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice-QA] Minutes - March 22nd, 2013

2013-03-28 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I do have some experience in setting that up. That is something I can help out with if you would like me to. -Original Message- From: Bjoern Michaelsen [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 28 March 2013 16:21 To: Jonathan Aquilina Cc: 'Petr Mladek'; 'Christian Lohmaier'; 'Flori

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice-QA] Minutes - March 22nd, 2013

2013-03-28 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 03:49:54PM +0100, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > Sorry for another email. I just looked at the talkyoo site, all it seems like > it's just a VoIP provider. Question then becomes why not set up something > like asterisk and get a line with a sip trunk provider? Because: a/ someo

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice-QA] Minutes - March 22nd, 2013

2013-03-28 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Sorry for another email. I just looked at the talkyoo site, all it seems like it's just a VoIP provider. Question then becomes why not set up something like asterisk and get a line with a sip trunk provider? -Original Message- From: [email protected]

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice-QA] Minutes - March 22nd, 2013

2013-03-28 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Is talkyoo free and open source? We can add it to the list of things to test in terms of other things that Robinson and I can work on if you guys are so interested? If talkyoo is free why host it on TDF hardware? -Original Message- From: libreoffice-bounces+eagles051387=gmail@lists.

[Libreoffice-qa] Basic font for labels in a Base form

2013-03-28 Thread Dan Lewis
Edit a Base form using LibreOffice 4.0.2.2 (32 bit Debian). Control+right click a label in the form. Select Control from the context menu. Click the elliplse ( ... ) for the Font property. Click the Font tab in the Character dialog. Why is it that the Family font listed contains eight

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice-QA] Minutes - March 22nd, 2013

2013-03-28 Thread Petr Mladek
Joel Madero píše v Čt 28. 03. 2013 v 07:04 -0700: > On 03/28/2013 05:34 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: > As for Talkyoo, there were multiple problems this time around. Most of > us have used talkyoo quite a bit so I am hesitant to say it was user > error. There was one skype user who had problems

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice-QA] Minutes - March 22nd, 2013

2013-03-28 Thread Joel Madero
On 03/28/2013 05:34 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: Hi *, On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Joel Madero wrote: [...] *Contest +Prizes -The Document Foundation (TDF) is unable to pay for prizes because of legal reasons, but handing out LibreOffice merchandise should work

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice-QA] Minutes - March 22nd, 2013

2013-03-28 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi *, On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Joel Madero wrote: > [...] > *Contest > +Prizes > -The Document Foundation (TDF) is unable to pay for prizes > because of legal reasons, but handing out LibreOffice merchandise should > work Note while TDF itself (the german-based fo

[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.2 RC2 available

2013-03-28 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Dear Community, The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the second release candidate of our upcoming LibreOffice 4.0.2. This will be the second in a series of frequent updates to our feature-packed 4.0 branch. Please be aware that LibreOffice 4.0.2 RC2 is not ready for production use, you s