Re: Kioslave repos

2014-09-11 Thread David Faure
On Wednesday 20 August 2014 11:38:12 Jonathan Riddell wrote: > On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 12:28:30PM +0200, Aleix Pol wrote: > >On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 9:49 PM, David Faure wrote: > > On Tuesday 01 July 2014 22:25:15 Jonathan Riddell wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 01, 2014 at 11:25:11PM +0200

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-08-24 Thread Marko Käning
On 24 Aug 2014, at 23:54 , Aleix Pol wrote: > On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 11:51 PM, Marko Käning wrote: > On 24 Aug 2014, at 23:48 , Aleix Pol wrote: > > Hm, fair enough. How does it sound to make kio-extras a framework then? It > > doesn't add new API but it does add run-time functionality to the

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-08-24 Thread Aleix Pol
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 11:51 PM, Marko Käning wrote: > On 24 Aug 2014, at 23:48 , Aleix Pol wrote: > > Hm, fair enough. How does it sound to make kio-extras a framework then? > It doesn't add new API but it does add run-time functionality to the > applications. > > Oh, I thought kio-extras IS a

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-08-24 Thread Marko Käning
On 24 Aug 2014, at 23:48 , Aleix Pol wrote: > Hm, fair enough. How does it sound to make kio-extras a framework then? It > doesn't add new API but it does add run-time functionality to the > applications. Oh, I thought kio-extras IS a framework already… _

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-08-24 Thread Aleix Pol
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Luigi Toscano wrote: > On Wednesday 20 of August 2014 11:38:12 Jonathan Riddell wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 12:28:30PM +0200, Aleix Pol wrote: > > >On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 9:49 PM, David Faure wrote: > > > On Tuesday 01 July 2014 22:25:15 Jonatha

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-08-20 Thread Luigi Toscano
On Wednesday 20 of August 2014 11:38:12 Jonathan Riddell wrote: > On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 12:28:30PM +0200, Aleix Pol wrote: > >On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 9:49 PM, David Faure wrote: > > On Tuesday 01 July 2014 22:25:15 Jonathan Riddell wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 01, 2014 at 11:25:11PM +0

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-08-20 Thread Jonathan Riddell
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 12:28:30PM +0200, Aleix Pol wrote: >On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 9:49 PM, David Faure wrote: > > On Tuesday 01 July 2014 22:25:15 Jonathan Riddell wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 01, 2014 at 11:25:11PM +0200, David Faure wrote: > > > On Sunday 27 April 2014 19:35:37 I

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-08-20 Thread Aleix Pol
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 9:49 PM, David Faure wrote: > On Tuesday 01 July 2014 22:25:15 Jonathan Riddell wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 01, 2014 at 11:25:11PM +0200, David Faure wrote: > > > On Sunday 27 April 2014 19:35:37 I wrote: > > > > > * place that repo in kde/ or kde/ in the > projects.kde.org > >

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-08-20 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 19 August 2014, David Faure wrote: > > > Does anyone disagree with my line of thought above? > > > > plasma-devel list may also have an opinion on this, sending there. > > Any news? To me it should be in whatever place it is better for most people, and if there are use cases for it b

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-08-19 Thread David Faure
On Tuesday 01 July 2014 22:25:15 Jonathan Riddell wrote: > On Tue, Jul 01, 2014 at 11:25:11PM +0200, David Faure wrote: > > On Sunday 27 April 2014 19:35:37 I wrote: > > > > * place that repo in kde/ or kde/ in the projects.kde.org > > > > hierarchy, so that it gets released with the KDE Applicatio

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-07-01 Thread Jonathan Riddell
On Tue, Jul 01, 2014 at 11:25:11PM +0200, David Faure wrote: > On Sunday 27 April 2014 19:35:37 I wrote: > > > * place that repo in kde/ or kde/ in the projects.kde.org > > > hierarchy, so that it gets released with the KDE Applications, NOT with > > > the > > > workspace product. Support for kio_f

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-07-01 Thread David Faure
On Sunday 27 April 2014 19:35:37 I wrote: > > * place that repo in kde/ or kde/ in the projects.kde.org > > hierarchy, so that it gets released with the KDE Applications, NOT with > > the > > workspace product. Support for kio_fish/kio_sftp on Windows or Gnome > > desktops is one of the major selli

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-04-27 Thread Aleix Pol
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 3:39 PM, David Faure wrote: > On Tuesday 08 April 2014 06:02:33 Àlex Fiestas wrote: > > On Monday 07 April 2014 23:27:33 Alex Merry wrote: > > > Aleix wanted a separate thread for this, so here it is. > > > > > > The current runtime splitting plan says that ioslaves should

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-04-27 Thread Kevin Ottens
On Sunday 27 April 2014 15:39:05 David Faure wrote: > On Tuesday 08 April 2014 06:02:33 Àlex Fiestas wrote: > > On Monday 07 April 2014 23:27:33 Alex Merry wrote: > > > Aleix wanted a separate thread for this, so here it is. > > > > > > The current runtime splitting plan says that ioslaves should

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-04-27 Thread David Faure
On Tuesday 08 April 2014 06:02:33 Àlex Fiestas wrote: > On Monday 07 April 2014 23:27:33 Alex Merry wrote: > > Aleix wanted a separate thread for this, so here it is. > > > > The current runtime splitting plan says that ioslaves should be in three > > places: core ones (file, http, etc) in kio, ot

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-04-11 Thread Marco Martin
On Thursday 10 April 2014 19:52:34 Àlex Fiestas wrote: > > So like I said in the sprint is it is something nice to have but it has to > be maintained, fixed and polished and that won't happen before 2.0 and > there is no reason to believe it will ever happen (since nobody at the > sprint even knew

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-04-11 Thread Kevin Ottens
Hello, On Friday 11 April 2014 01:33:54 Aurélien Gâteau wrote: > > The problem is manpower, we do not have the manpwoer to maintain half o > > the things we have in the workspace, most of the things in there are > > half-cooked or they do not even work (kglobalaccel kcm) For the record, it works

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-04-11 Thread Burkhard Lück
Am Freitag, 11. April 2014, 02:21:22 schrieb Aurélien Gâteau: > On Fri, Apr 11, 2014, at 1:51, Àlex Fiestas wrote: > > On Friday 11 April 2014 01:33:54 Aurélien Gâteau wrote: > > > > The problem is manpower, we do not have the manpwoer to maintain half > > > > o > > > > the > > > > things we have i

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-04-11 Thread Aurélien Gâteau
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014, at 1:51, Àlex Fiestas wrote: > On Friday 11 April 2014 01:33:54 Aurélien Gâteau wrote: > > > The problem is manpower, we do not have the manpwoer to maintain half o > > > the > > > things we have in the workspace, most of the things in there are > > > half-cooked > > > or they

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-04-11 Thread Àlex Fiestas
On Friday 11 April 2014 01:33:54 Aurélien Gâteau wrote: > > The problem is manpower, we do not have the manpwoer to maintain half o > > the > > things we have in the workspace, most of the things in there are > > half-cooked > > or they do not even work (kglobalaccel kcm) and instead of taking a >

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-04-11 Thread Aurélien Gâteau
> The problem is manpower, we do not have the manpwoer to maintain half o > the > things we have in the workspace, most of the things in there are > half-cooked > or they do not even work (kglobalaccel kcm) and instead of taking a > breath and > decide what we want and what we do not want (like

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-04-10 Thread Àlex Fiestas
On Thursday 10 April 2014 14:42:37 Marco Martin wrote: > On Thursday 10 April 2014, you wrote: > > in the second case, it's just a release blocker, and has to be enabled and > > ported, *even if* there won't be anyone maintaining it after that, it's a > > part of the workspace and needs to be relea

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-04-10 Thread Àlex Fiestas
On Thursday 10 April 2014 13:43:37 Marco Martin wrote: > On Thursday 10 April 2014, Àlex Fiestas wrote: > > > Developers being confortable with it, or even (gasp!) being actively > > > maintained goes completely secondary behind the causing as less > > > regressions as possible for the users. > >

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-04-10 Thread Marco Martin
On Thursday 10 April 2014, you wrote: > in the second case, it's just a release blocker, and has to be enabled and > ported, *even if* there won't be anyone maintaining it after that, it's a > part of the workspace and needs to be released, (and yes, preferably in > the plasma- workspace repo) if i

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-04-10 Thread Marco Martin
On Thursday 10 April 2014, Àlex Fiestas wrote: > > Developers being confortable with it, or even (gasp!) being actively > > maintained goes completely secondary behind the causing as less > > regressions as possible for the users. > > I guess you can leave the code there and just not add it to cma

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-04-10 Thread Kevin Ottens
On Thursday 10 April 2014 10:40:04 Àlex Fiestas wrote: > On Wednesday 09 April 2014 11:57:37 Marco Martin wrote: > > On Wednesday 09 April 2014, Àlex Fiestas wrote: > > > I'm against having anything in plasma-* without maintainer and even less > > > if > > > it is something that is known to have bu

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-04-10 Thread Àlex Fiestas
On Wednesday 09 April 2014 11:57:37 Marco Martin wrote: > On Wednesday 09 April 2014, Àlex Fiestas wrote: > > I'm against having anything in plasma-* without maintainer and even less > > if > > it is something that is known to have bugs (many) in KDE4. > > > > So we wither split it and hope somebo

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-04-09 Thread Kevin Ottens
On Wednesday 09 April 2014 11:57:37 Marco Martin wrote: > On Wednesday 09 April 2014, Àlex Fiestas wrote: > > I'm against having anything in plasma-* without maintainer and even less > > if > > it is something that is known to have bugs (many) in KDE4. > > > > So we wither split it and hope somebo

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-04-09 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 09 April 2014, Àlex Fiestas wrote: > I'm against having anything in plasma-* without maintainer and even less if > it is something that is known to have bugs (many) in KDE4. > > So we wither split it and hope somebody will give love to it or remove it. Not talking about that repo in

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-04-09 Thread Àlex Fiestas
On Tuesday 08 April 2014 17:37:00 Kevin Ottens wrote: > Good move. > > Pushed me toward looking a bit closer to this page, as obviously we didn't > look close enough before (sorry about that), I might have a concern still: > solid-deviceautomounter getting its own repository. It looks again like a

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-04-08 Thread Kevin Ottens
On Tuesday 08 April 2014 17:09:53 Aleix Pol wrote: > Right, I updated the runtime splitting wiki page with this [1], by delaying > to the futurible maintainer of the kio-extras the decision of what > kioslaves to deprecate. Good move. Pushed me toward looking a bit closer to this page, as obvious

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-04-08 Thread Àlex Fiestas
On Tuesday 08 April 2014 14:31:51 Alex Merry wrote: > Well, I would say: discard them or include them. I know Albert was > pushing not to get rid of code that still technically works, but I think > you either have to go that route and put it in > kioslaves/kio-extras/whatever (so that it will hope

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-04-08 Thread Aleix Pol
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Alex Merry wrote: > On 08/04/14 12:21, Aleix Pol wrote: > > Given that premise, would you suggest having kurifilter-plugins in this > > repository as well? > > > > We can have a kio-extras repository with KIO::everything in it. > > That seems reasonable to me. > >

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-04-08 Thread Kevin Ottens
On Tuesday 08 April 2014 14:31:51 Alex Merry wrote: > On 08/04/14 14:02, Àlex Fiestas wrote: > > I personally do not want to have those not of interest or unmaintained > > kiosalves around, I do not want to maintain them, I do not want distros to > > ship them by default (which will happen for thos

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-04-08 Thread Alex Merry
On 08/04/14 14:02, Àlex Fiestas wrote: > I personally do not want to have those not of interest or unmaintained > kiosalves around, I do not want to maintain them, I do not want distros to > ship them by default (which will happen for those distros that will pacakge > the entire repository) etc.

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-04-08 Thread Àlex Fiestas
On Monday 07 April 2014 23:27:33 Alex Merry wrote: > Aleix wanted a separate thread for this, so here it is. > > The current runtime splitting plan says that ioslaves should be in three > places: core ones (file, http, etc) in kio, other useful ones (archive, > bookmarks, etc) in "kioslaves", and

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-04-08 Thread Alex Merry
On 08/04/14 12:21, Aleix Pol wrote: > Given that premise, would you suggest having kurifilter-plugins in this > repository as well? > > We can have a kio-extras repository with KIO::everything in it. That seems reasonable to me. Alex ___ Kde-framework

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-04-08 Thread Aleix Pol
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:27 AM, Alex Merry wrote: > Aleix wanted a separate thread for this, so here it is. > > The current runtime splitting plan says that ioslaves should be in three > places: core ones (file, http, etc) in kio, other useful ones (archive, > bookmarks, etc) in "kioslaves", and

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-04-08 Thread Aleix Pol
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Kevin Ottens wrote: > Hello, > > On Tuesday 08 April 2014 12:30:44 Aleix Pol wrote: > > The rationale is that we should never need to pull a Plasma Workspace to > > get an _application_ running. > > I'd argue the application is broken if that happens. :-) > > A re

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-04-08 Thread Kevin Ottens
Hello, On Tuesday 08 April 2014 12:30:44 Aleix Pol wrote: > The rationale is that we should never need to pull a Plasma Workspace to > get an _application_ running. I'd argue the application is broken if that happens. :-) A regular application should only need KDE Frameworks and eventually other

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-04-08 Thread Aleix Pol
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Kevin Ottens wrote: > Hello, > > On Monday 07 April 2014 23:27:33 Alex Merry wrote: > > Aleix wanted a separate thread for this, so here it is. > > > > The current runtime splitting plan says that ioslaves should be in three > > places: core ones (file, http, etc)

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-04-07 Thread Kevin Ottens
Hello, On Monday 07 April 2014 23:27:33 Alex Merry wrote: > Aleix wanted a separate thread for this, so here it is. > > The current runtime splitting plan says that ioslaves should be in three > places: core ones (file, http, etc) in kio, other useful ones (archive, > bookmarks, etc) in "kioslave

Re: Kioslave repos

2014-04-07 Thread Michael Pyne
On Mon, April 7, 2014 23:27:33 Alex Merry wrote: > Moving things between repos is a *pain*, and I think Ben and Albert have > a point about being over-eager to split things up. In this case, I > think we should just have core things in kio, and everything else in > kioslaves (or call it kio-extra-

Kioslave repos

2014-04-07 Thread Alex Merry
Aleix wanted a separate thread for this, so here it is. The current runtime splitting plan says that ioslaves should be in three places: core ones (file, http, etc) in kio, other useful ones (archive, bookmarks, etc) in "kioslaves", and curiosities (cgi, finger) in kioslave-extra. In my view, thi