Re: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-05-08 Thread Ingo Klöcker
[This message is a reply to all people requesting a long-term-maintained frameworks branch.] On Sunday 04 May 2014 16:27:44 Luigi Toscano wrote: > Kevin Ottens ha scritto: > > So, we had a team discussion here with Albert, Aleix, Alex, Alex, > > Aurélien, David, Rohan and myself. We juggled with

Re: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-05-08 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Thursday, May 08, 2014 22:08:06 David Faure wrote: > [Taking k-c-d out, too much cross-posting] > > On Monday 05 May 2014 21:54:42 Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > If we have more than 50 libraries, do all of them need a full new release > > every month ? > > Not doing that leads to > > 1) a hug

Re: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-05-08 Thread Saro Engels
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 04.05.2014 18:36, schrieb David Faure: > [Cross posting against my will...] > > On Sunday 04 May 2014 16:27:44 Luigi Toscano wrote: >> I understand that the big concern was about the testing: stable >> branches did not receive the same attention

Re: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-05-08 Thread David Faure
[Taking k-c-d out, too much cross-posting] On Monday 05 May 2014 21:54:42 Alexander Neundorf wrote: > If we have more than 50 libraries, do all of them need a full new release > every month ? Not doing that leads to 1) a huge mess of versioning. The latest available version for each framework

Re: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-05-07 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Monday, May 05, 2014 11:11:53 Martin Klapetek wrote: > However this highly depends on the distro policies - if some of the big > distros say "we will not update KF5 every month because our policies", then > the 6 months buffer is just moved elsewhere, at the distro level because > they will upda

Re: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-05-05 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Sunday, May 04, 2014 16:27:44 Luigi Toscano wrote: > Kevin Ottens ha scritto: > > So, we had a team discussion here with Albert, Aleix, Alex, Alex, > > Aurélien, > > David, Rohan and myself. We juggled with several options, trying to > > address > > > > the following constraints: > > * We don'

Re: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-05-05 Thread Harald Sitter
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Martin Klapetek wrote: > On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 6:36 PM, David Faure wrote: >> >> [Cross posting against my will...] >> >> On Sunday 04 May 2014 16:27:44 Luigi Toscano wrote: >> > I understand that the big concern was about the testing: stable branches >> > did >>

Re: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-05-05 Thread Martin Klapetek
On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 6:36 PM, David Faure wrote: > [Cross posting against my will...] > > On Sunday 04 May 2014 16:27:44 Luigi Toscano wrote: > > I understand that the big concern was about the testing: stable branches > did > > not receive the same attention > > This is not the main concern. >

Re: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-05-04 Thread Luigi Toscano
David Faure ha scritto: > [Cross posting against my will...] > > On Sunday 04 May 2014 16:27:44 Luigi Toscano wrote: >> I understand that the big concern was about the testing: stable branches did >> not receive the same attention > > This is not the main concern. > > My main concern is that app

Re: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-05-04 Thread David Faure
[Cross posting against my will...] On Sunday 04 May 2014 16:27:44 Luigi Toscano wrote: > I understand that the big concern was about the testing: stable branches did > not receive the same attention This is not the main concern. My main concern is that application developers prefer to work aroun

Re: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-05-04 Thread Luigi Toscano
Kevin Ottens ha scritto: > So, we had a team discussion here with Albert, Aleix, Alex, Alex, Aurélien, > David, Rohan and myself. We juggled with several options, trying to address > the following constraints: > * We don't have many contributors; > * We don't have enough testing in the stable b

Re: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-04-28 Thread Marco Martin
On Sunday 27 April 2014, Kevin Ottens wrote: > Of course, going with this type of cycle comes with some price of its own: > * Features in released modules can only be introduced in a very fine > grained way so as to not jeopardize the stability; on one hand I'll probably miss feature branches, on

Re: Fwd: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-04-28 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Sunday, April 27, 2014 15:55:07 Albert Astals Cid wrote: > El Diumenge, 27 d'abril de 2014, a les 15:15:32, David Faure va escriure: > > FYI. > > Interesting fact here that original the mail was just sent to k-f-d and > k-c-d. > > I am seeing similar patterns in the plasma land, where they wen

Re: Fwd: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-04-27 Thread David Faure
On Sunday 27 April 2014 17:14:43 Albert Astals Cid wrote: > i'm just stating that both schedules > were discussed outside this list Ah, sorry, now I understand better the purpose of your email. Well, it is often the case that discussions that normally happen on mailing- lists, happen differently

Re: Fwd: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-04-27 Thread Albert Astals Cid
Longer answer now that i'm no longer on the move :) El Diumenge, 27 d'abril de 2014, a les 16:09:27, David Faure va escriure: > On Sunday 27 April 2014 15:55:07 Albert Astals Cid wrote: > > Interesting fact here that original the mail was just sent to k-f-d and > > k-c-d. > > That was my suggesti

Re: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-04-27 Thread tsdgeos
nviat: domingo, 27 de abril de 2014 16:09 Per a: kde-frameworks-devel@kde.org Respon a: KDE release coordination A/c: Albert Astals Cid; release-t...@kde.org Tema: Re: Fwd: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle On Sunday 27 April 2014 15:55:07 Albert Astals Cid wrote: > Interesting fact here that original the

Re: Fwd: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-04-27 Thread David Faure
On Sunday 27 April 2014 15:55:07 Albert Astals Cid wrote: > Interesting fact here that original the mail was just sent to k-f-d and > k-c-d. That was my suggestion, to avoid cross-posting to 4 lists everytime someone answers, which always creates issues because kde-packager@ is moderated. > I a

Re: Fwd: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-04-27 Thread Albert Astals Cid
the relase-team altogether. I'd like a) to happen but i can see if being hard so i'm open to anything people want :) Cheers, Albert > > -- Forwarded Message -- > > Subject: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle > Date: Sunday 27 April 2014, 11:51:01 > F

Re: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-04-27 Thread Alex Merry
On 27/04/14 10:51, Kevin Ottens wrote: > Hello people, > > As you may have noticed, we're covering quite a few tasks here during the > sprint. But, we're also having discussion topics, and the most important one > we covered is the release cycle. Indeed, we got the question several times > alre

Re: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-04-27 Thread Cornelius Schumacher
On Sunday 27 April 2014 11:51:01 Kevin Ottens wrote: > > Short story: we'll go for a one month release cycle, with no branch. This is a bold move. I like it. Rapid release cycles have their own challenges, but I think we have the means to make them work. And they come with benefits. Getting our

KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-04-27 Thread Kevin Ottens
Hello people, As you may have noticed, we're covering quite a few tasks here during the sprint. But, we're also having discussion topics, and the most important one we covered is the release cycle. Indeed, we got the question several times already of "once 5.0 is out what will happen?" It is wh