Re: Disallow or discourage use of "AI" tools (Christoph Cullmann)

2025-05-19 Thread Justin Zobel
On 19/05/2025 19:15, Ilya Bizyaev wrote: On Monday, May 19th, 2025 at 02:34, Justin Zobel wrote: On 18/05/2025 16:41, Albert Vaca Cintora wrote: On Sun, 18 May 2025, 08:59 Justin Zobel, wrote: If the contributor cannot tell you the license(s) of the code that was used to generate t

Re: Disallow or discourage use of "AI" tools (Christoph Cullmann)

2025-05-19 Thread Ingo Klöcker
On Montag, 19. Mai 2025 07:48:42 Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit Justin Zobel wrote: > On 19/05/2025 15:01, Konstantin Kharlamov wrote: > > Another example is I had to rewrite some project from one language to > > another at work. This is tedious task, so I similarly used AI to > > create a scratch,

Re: Disallow or discourage use of "AI" tools (Christoph Cullmann)

2025-05-19 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, May 19, 2025 02:51:37 AM Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Ingo's suggestions to train a model with KDE code might help. But of > course to train a model will need a huge lot of resources according to > what I know. From the peanut gallery: I know very little about training an AI, but, from

Re: Disallow or discourage use of "AI" tools (Christoph Cullmann)

2025-05-19 Thread Jakob Petsovits
On Mon, May 19, 2025, at 11:45, Ilya Bizyaev wrote: > If you really care about the licensing aspect, focus on it instead of > diverting this thread into other topics with statements like this one. I strongly agree with this statement. "AI" as a term is a nothing-burger, it needs to be broken dow

Re: Disallow or discourage use of "AI" tools (Christoph Cullmann)

2025-05-19 Thread Ilya Bizyaev
On Monday, May 19th, 2025 at 02:34, Justin Zobel wrote: > On 18/05/2025 16:41, Albert Vaca Cintora wrote: > > > On Sun, 18 May 2025, 08:59 Justin Zobel, wrote: > > > > > If the contributor cannot tell you the license(s) of the code that was > > > used to generate the code, then it's lite

Re: Disallow or discourage use of "AI" tools (Christoph Cullmann)

2025-05-19 Thread Jin Liu
Akseli Lahtinen 于2025年5月19日周一 16:14写道: > My original point is to try to get rid of the low-hanging fruit, as in > people who spam bug reports with obviously "AI" generated things. I'm basically with you. That's why I began my first reply with "I assume this doesn't include...", i.e. just a casual

Re: Disallow or discourage use of "AI" tools (Christoph Cullmann)

2025-05-19 Thread Justin Zobel
On 19/05/2025 15:28, Jin Liu wrote: Justin Zobel 于2025年5月19日周一 13:52写道: I understand that it makes everything easier. That doesn't matter in the slightest when you cannot verify the original license of the code allows you to use said code or that the license is compatible with KDE. I don't th

Re: Disallow or discourage use of "AI" tools (Christoph Cullmann)

2025-05-19 Thread Akseli Lahtinen
On Monday 19 May 2025 10:26:19 Eastern European Summer Time Jin Liu wrote: > Martin Steigerwald 于2025年5月19日周一 14:56写道: > > > Everyone: I suggest to assume good intentions. > > My suggestion is to avoid making assessments on "people", and focus on > code or legal or other aspects. > > - Jin Liu

Re: Disallow or discourage use of "AI" tools (Christoph Cullmann)

2025-05-19 Thread Jin Liu
Martin Steigerwald 于2025年5月19日周一 14:56写道: > Everyone: I suggest to assume good intentions. My suggestion is to avoid making assessments on "people", and focus on code or legal or other aspects. - Jin Liu

Re: Disallow or discourage use of "AI" tools (Christoph Cullmann)

2025-05-19 Thread Allan Sandfeld Jensen
On Sunday, 18 May 2025 09:11:35 Central European Summer Time Albert Vaca Cintora wrote: > On Sun, 18 May 2025, 08:59 Justin Zobel, wrote: > > If the contributor cannot tell you the license(s) of the code that was > > used to generate the code, then it's literally gambling that this code > > wasn'