Hi.
Jin Liu - 19.05.25, 07:58:50 CEST:
> > It's clear a lot of people don't care about theft or the environment
> > and are happy to use AI without thinking about the true impact.
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> Insult taken. Is that KDE's official stance that because I use AI in
> coding, so "I don't care about theft or the
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Hi.
Justin Zobel - 19.05.25, 07:52:05 CEST:
> I understand that it makes everything easier. That doesn't matter in the
> slightest when you cannot verify the original license of the code
> allows you to use said code or that the license is compatible with KDE.
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> What this all boils down to, is
Justin Zobel 于2025年5月19日周一 13:52写道：
> I understand that it makes everything easier. That doesn't matter in the
> slightest when you cannot verify the original license of the code allows you
> to use said code or that the license is compatible with KDE.
I don't think a few (<10) lines of code ar
On 19/05/2025 15:10, Jin Liu wrote:
Justin Zobel 于2025年5月19日周一 08:34写道：
From my understanding (what others have told me), AI generally does not
produce good quality code though. So how is that a benefit to society?
From my personal experience (what I, not others, have personally used
Github
On 19/05/2025 15:01, Konstantin Kharlamov wrote:
On Mon, 2025-05-19 at 14:53 +0930, Justin Zobel wrote:
On 19/05/2025 14:35, Konstantin Kharlamov wrote:
On Mon, 2025-05-19 at 10:03 +0930, Justin Zobel wrote:
On 18/05/2025 16:41, Albert Vaca Cintora wrote:
On Sun, 18 May 2025, 08:59 Justi
Justin Zobel 于2025年5月19日周一 08:34写道：
> From my understanding (what others have told me), AI generally does not
> produce good quality code though. So how is that a benefit to society?
>From my personal experience (what I, not others, have personally used
Github Copilot for months), AI makes codin
On Mon, 2025-05-19 at 14:53 +0930, Justin Zobel wrote:
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On 19/05/2025 14:35, Konstantin Kharlamov wrote:
On Mon, 2025-05-19 at 10:03 +0930, Justin Zobel wrote:
On 18/05/2025 16:41, Albert Vaca Cintora wrote:
On Sun, 18 May 2025, 08:59 Justin Zobel, wrote:
If the contributor cannot tell you the license(s) of the code that
was used to generate the
On Mon, 2025-05-19 at 10:03 +0930, Justin Zobel wrote:
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On 19/05/2025 05:02, Ingo Klöcker wrote:
On Sonntag, 18. Mai 2025 16:52:00 Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit Christoph
Cullmann wrote:
On Sunday, May 18th, 2025 at 09:12, Albert Vaca Cintora
wrote:
On Sun, 18 May 2025, 08:59 Justin Zobel, wrote:
If the contributor cannot tell you the license(s) o
On 19/05/2025 06:05, Ingo Klöcker wrote:
On Sonntag, 18. Mai 2025 21:32:20 Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit Ingo Klöcker
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Yes, there is the theoretical threat that an AI learned code that's under a
less liberal license like the GPL or even under one of the "new" not-OSI-
approved licenses used
On 18/05/2025 16:41, Albert Vaca Cintora wrote:
On Sun, 18 May 2025, 08:59 Justin Zobel, wrote:
If the contributor cannot tell you the license(s) of the code that
was used to generate the code, then it's literally gambling that
this code wasn't taken from another project by Gemini a
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> > Yes, there is the theoretical threat that an AI learned code that's under a
> > less liberal license like the GPL or even under one of the "new" not-OSI-
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> albertv...@gmail.com wrote:
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> > > On Sun, 18 May 2025, 08:59 Justin Zobel, jus...@1707.io wrote:
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> > > > If the
On Sonntag, 18. Mai 2025 21:32:20 Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit Ingo Klöcker
wrote:
> Yes, there is the theoretical threat that an AI learned code that's under a
> less liberal license like the GPL or even under one of the "new" not-OSI-
> approved licenses used by certain companies to prevent Amaz
On Sonntag, 18. Mai 2025 16:52:00 Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit Christoph
Cullmann wrote:
> On Sunday, May 18th, 2025 at 09:12, Albert Vaca Cintora
wrote:
> > On Sun, 18 May 2025, 08:59 Justin Zobel, wrote:
> > > If the contributor cannot tell you the license(s) of the code that was
> > > used t
Hi,
On Sunday, May 18th, 2025 at 09:00, Justin Zobel wrote:
> On 17/05/2025 01:40, Christoph Cullmann wrote:
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> > just as a concrete example: what to do with
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> > https://invent.kde.org/frameworks/syntax-highlighting/-/merge_requests/698
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> > That is no AI spam but so
Hi,
On Sunday, May 18th, 2025 at 09:12, Albert Vaca Cintora
wrote:
> On Sun, 18 May 2025, 08:59 Justin Zobel, wrote:
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> > If the contributor cannot tell you the license(s) of the code that was used
> > to generate the code, then it's literally gambling that this code wasn't
> > taken fro
Hello,
I don't know if it was mentioned, but there are already rules for this.
"Think Twice before Committing"
and
"Don't commit code you don't understand"
https://community.kde.org/Policies/Commit_Policy
Best regards,
Juraj
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Justin Zobel 于2025年5月18日周日 15:03写道：
> I would even be for adding a checkbox in the Merge Request template requiring
> users to declare that no AI was used in this contribution. The same can go in
> the Bugzilla tickets.
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> Justin
Well, I hereby declare that AI (Github Copilot specifically) was
On Sun, 18 May 2025, 08:59 Justin Zobel, wrote:
> If the contributor cannot tell you the license(s) of the code that was
> used to generate the code, then it's literally gambling that this code
> wasn't taken from another project by Gemini and used without their
> permission or used in a way that
On 17/05/2025 02:20, Nate Graham wrote:
you skillfully adapted or re-wrote its output using your human brain
to fit the context, then the result was fine and no policy could
prevent this, so that part is sort of moot IMO.
It still possibly contains code that is against KDE's licenses. And if
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