Re: Systems Settings - Desktop Search

2014-03-30 Thread Shantanu Tushar Jha
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 3:15 AM, Albert Astals Cid wrote: > El Dilluns, 31 de març de 2014, a les 07:27:38, Lindsay Mathieson va > escriure: > > On Sun, 30 Mar 2014 11:19:26 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote: > > > > I don't like this automagic stuff. > > > > > > This is not a very good sentence to be h

Re: Is Konqueror still a live project?

2014-03-30 Thread Ian Wadham
On 28/03/2014, at 9:16 PM, Aaron Zakhrov wrote: > some distros ship it (Konqueror) as the default web browser but it is still a > pretty good file manager A subsidiary question. What replaces Konqueror now? Dolphin replaces the file manager functionality, but what is the "official" supported KDE

Re: Systems Settings - Desktop Search

2014-03-30 Thread Pablo Sanchez
[ Comments below, in-line ] On 03/30/2014 06:44 PM, Thomas Lübking wrote: I wasn't suggesting you were getting offended ... I was suggesting Albert. Yupp, got that. My bad ... I read your original reply in haste. Sorry. -- Pablo Sanchez - Blueoak Database Engineering, Inc Ph:819.459.

Re: Systems Settings - Desktop Search

2014-03-30 Thread Benedict Yappy
I followed this thread closely. Although I haven't done real personal testing, I hope I may leave some comments. I agree with Lindsay that users should be allowed more control *not by default*. That would mean, having an 'advanced' tab that includes both Whitelist and Blacklist options. Even if B

Re: Systems Settings - Desktop Search

2014-03-30 Thread Lindsay Mathieson
On 31 March 2014 08:11, Vishesh Handa wrote: > On Monday, March 31, 2014 07:16:13 AM Lindsay Mathieson wrote: >> >> Why are you so intent on telling us what we should be indexing? what is >> wrong with giving the user choice? > > Nepomuk was never just about "searching". It was also about applicat

Re: Systems Settings - Desktop Search

2014-03-30 Thread Thomas Lübking
On Montag, 31. März 2014 00:20:39 CEST, Pablo Sanchez wrote: I wasn't suggesting you were getting offended ... I was suggesting Albert. Yupp, got that. No, didn't mean to. Yes, was irritated by Alberts (suggestive) question. Cheers, Thomas Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-deve

Re: Systems Settings - Desktop Search

2014-03-30 Thread Pablo Sanchez
[ Comments below, in-line ] On 03/30/2014 06:15 PM, Thomas Lübking wrote: On Sonntag, 30. März 2014 23:46:01 CEST, Pablo Sanchez wrote: [ Comments below, in-line ] On 03/30/2014 05:43 PM, Albert Astals Cid wrote: I did that twice today already. I am sorry i failed your reading test. Will refr

Re: Systems Settings - Desktop Search

2014-03-30 Thread Thomas Lübking
On Sonntag, 30. März 2014 23:46:01 CEST, Pablo Sanchez wrote: [ Comments below, in-line ] On 03/30/2014 05:43 PM, Albert Astals Cid wrote: I did that twice today already. I am sorry i failed your reading test. Will refrain for further commenting in this thread. I don't think you should get o

Re: Systems Settings - Desktop Search

2014-03-30 Thread Vishesh Handa
On Sunday, March 30, 2014 11:13:09 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote: > El Dissabte, 29 de març de 2014, a les 11:17:45, Vishesh Handa va escriure: > > On Saturday, March 29, 2014 12:47:46 PM Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > > > KDE 4.12.95 (Kubuntu 14.04 Beta 2) > > > > > > Is there work planned for this? bec

Re: Systems Settings - Desktop Search

2014-03-30 Thread Vishesh Handa
On Monday, March 31, 2014 07:16:13 AM Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > > Why are you so intent on telling us what we should be indexing? what is > wrong with giving the user choice? Nepomuk was never just about "searching". It was also about applications getting built on top of it in order to leverage

Re: Systems Settings - Desktop Search

2014-03-30 Thread Pablo Sanchez
[ Comments below, in-line ] On 03/30/2014 05:43 PM, Albert Astals Cid wrote: I did that twice today already. I am sorry i failed your reading test. Will refrain for further commenting in this thread. I don't think you should get offended because perhaps there was a translation issue but your

Re: Systems Settings - Desktop Search

2014-03-30 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dilluns, 31 de març de 2014, a les 07:27:38, Lindsay Mathieson va escriure: > On Sun, 30 Mar 2014 11:19:26 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote: > > > I don't like this automagic stuff. > > > > This is not a very good sentence to be honest. You shouldn't be using a > > computer at all if you don't like a

Re: Systems Settings - Desktop Search

2014-03-30 Thread Pablo Sanchez
[ Comments below, in-line ] On 03/30/2014 05:41 PM, Lindsay Mathieson wrote: On Sun, 30 Mar 2014 11:26:26 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote: I'm not the one making assertions about most users. I disagree. "Better to leave it bare and simple initially" seems like you are making assertions about most

Re: Systems Settings - Desktop Search

2014-03-30 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Diumenge, 30 de març de 2014, a les 23:31:34, Thomas Lübking va escriure: > On Sonntag, 30. März 2014 23:21:18 CEST, Albert Astals Cid wrote: > > El Dissabte, 29 de març de 2014, a les 15:21:26, Thomas Lübking va escriure: > >> On Samstag, 29. März 2014 15:09:10 CEST, Vishesh Handa wrote: > >>>

Re: Is Konqueror still a live project?

2014-03-30 Thread Lindsay Mathieson
On Sun, 30 Mar 2014 04:35:56 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote: > Do the code, I'm sure we can review the changes and agree on them if they > are good Ok :) -- Lindsay signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. >> Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub to

Re: Systems Settings - Desktop Search

2014-03-30 Thread Lindsay Mathieson
On Sun, 30 Mar 2014 11:26:26 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote: > > I'm not the one making assertions about most users. > > I disagree. "Better to leave it bare and simple initially" seems like you > are making assertions about most users. No, it means not predetermining the outcome, but seeing what us

Re: Systems Settings - Desktop Search

2014-03-30 Thread Thomas Lübking
On Sonntag, 30. März 2014 23:21:18 CEST, Albert Astals Cid wrote: El Dissabte, 29 de març de 2014, a les 15:21:26, Thomas Lübking va escriure: On Samstag, 29. März 2014 15:09:10 CEST, Vishesh Handa wrote: I currently have no idea what is being indexed on my pc. I have no way of finding out. If

Re: Systems Settings - Desktop Search

2014-03-30 Thread Lindsay Mathieson
On Sun, 30 Mar 2014 11:19:26 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote: > > I don't like this automagic stuff. > > This is not a very good sentence to be honest. You shouldn't be using a > computer at all if you don't like automagic stuff. ha ha. Automagic refers to software that tries to guess whats best

Re: Systems Settings - Desktop Search

2014-03-30 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dilluns, 31 de març de 2014, a les 07:23:26, Lindsay Mathieson va escriure: > On Sun, 30 Mar 2014 11:19:58 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote: > > > You've surveyed users on this? have some data? > > > > Have you? > > I'm not the one making assertions about most users. I disagree. "Better to leave it

Re: Systems Settings - Desktop Search

2014-03-30 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dilluns, 31 de març de 2014, a les 07:18:25, Lindsay Mathieson va escriure: > On Sun, 30 Mar 2014 11:14:52 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote: > > > And totally breaks on any machine with multiple user accounts, which is > > > actually quite common, both for business and home usage. > > > > Why would i

Re: Systems Settings - Desktop Search

2014-03-30 Thread Lindsay Mathieson
On Sun, 30 Mar 2014 11:19:26 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote: > > > We don't need to filter out source code, it already does. > > > We don't need to black list external devices, it already does. > > > It just works out of the box. > > > > > > > > Except when it doesn't. > > Then it's a bug, report it

Re: Systems Settings - Desktop Search

2014-03-30 Thread Lindsay Mathieson
On Sun, 30 Mar 2014 11:19:58 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote: > > You've surveyed users on this? have some data? > > Have you? I'm not the one making assertions about most users. -- Lindsay signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. >> Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/lis

Re: Systems Settings - Desktop Search

2014-03-30 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dissabte, 29 de març de 2014, a les 15:21:26, Thomas Lübking va escriure: > On Samstag, 29. März 2014 15:09:10 CEST, Vishesh Handa wrote: > >> I currently have no idea what is being indexed on my pc. I have no way of > >> finding out. If I change my directory structure or add extra > >> media mo

Re: Systems Settings - Desktop Search

2014-03-30 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Diumenge, 30 de març de 2014, a les 00:05:01, Lindsay Mathieson va escriure: > On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 03:00:36 PM Vishesh Handa wrote: > > What I was really trying to do was hide the concept of "indexing" from the > > user. They care about searching, not about "indexing". > > You've surveyed user

Re: Systems Settings - Desktop Search

2014-03-30 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dissabte, 29 de març de 2014, a les 23:34:36, Lindsay Mathieson va escriure: > On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 02:18:24 PM Andrea Scarpino wrote: > > We had a bad experience with Nepomuk and now we want to control everything > > about this new desktop search settings, but we don't have to. > > We don't nee

Re: Systems Settings - Desktop Search

2014-03-30 Thread Lindsay Mathieson
On Sun, 30 Mar 2014 11:14:52 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote: > > And totally breaks on any machine with multiple user accounts, which is > > actually quite common, both for business and home usage. > > Why would it break on multiple user accounts? My searches shouldn't be returning results for other

Re: Systems Settings - Desktop Search

2014-03-30 Thread Lindsay Mathieson
On Sun, 30 Mar 2014 03:44:34 PM Vishesh Handa wrote: > It would be awesome if you could come up with some test cases where you're > looking for a particular file, and the top result(s) is not the one you > expected because of these "garbage" files. Backups, Archives, Shared folder repositories

Re: Systems Settings - Desktop Search

2014-03-30 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dissabte, 29 de març de 2014, a les 21:07:04, Lindsay Mathieson va escriure: > On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 11:17:45 AM you wrote: > > > - A simple black list will not do. I need a white list - the ability to > > > specify disjoint folders for indexing, not the other way around. And I'm > > > sure the m

Re: Systems Settings - Desktop Search

2014-03-30 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dissabte, 29 de març de 2014, a les 11:17:45, Vishesh Handa va escriure: > On Saturday, March 29, 2014 12:47:46 PM Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > > KDE 4.12.95 (Kubuntu 14.04 Beta 2) > > > > Is there work planned for this? because as is, its quite confusing and > > appears to be missing crucial set

Re: Review Request 117187: [Baloo] cmake: Introduce a config.h to use non-standard features conditionally.

2014-03-30 Thread Raphael Kubo da Costa
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Re: Review Request 117187: [Baloo] cmake: Introduce a config.h to use non-standard features conditionally.

2014-03-30 Thread Commit Hook
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Re: Is Konqueror still a live project?

2014-03-30 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Divendres, 28 de març de 2014, a les 20:37:19, Lindsay Mathieson va escriure: > On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 11:29:11 AM Àlex Fiestas wrote: > > he best thing about free software is that projects never die, so go ahead > > and implement those features! > > Is there still a project maintainer who can o

Re: Systems Settings - Desktop Search

2014-03-30 Thread Vishesh Handa
On Sunday, March 30, 2014 04:53:50 PM Shantanu Tushar Jha wrote: > Right now the other dirs contain almost everything else on my machine. If I > index them, small images, short duration audio clips[*] get indexed and > skew up my search results. At least in Plasma Media Center we're going to > add

Re: Review Request 117187: [Baloo] cmake: Introduce a config.h to use non-standard features conditionally.

2014-03-30 Thread Aleix Pol Gonzalez
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Re: Review Request 117187: [Baloo] cmake: Introduce a config.h to use non-standard features conditionally.

2014-03-30 Thread Raphael Kubo da Costa
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/117187/ --- (Updated March 30, 2014, 2:45 p.m.) Review request for Baloo and Vishesh

Review Request 117187: [Baloo] cmake: Introduce a config.h to use non-standard features conditionally.

2014-03-30 Thread Raphael Kubo da Costa
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/117187/ --- Review request for Baloo and Vishesh Handa. Repository: baloo Descripti

Re: Systems Settings - Desktop Search

2014-03-30 Thread Shantanu Tushar Jha
Right now the other dirs contain almost everything else on my machine. If I index them, small images, short duration audio clips[*] get indexed and skew up my search results. At least in Plasma Media Center we're going to add an option to ignore images/audio/video below a certain dimension/duration

Re: Some more baloo control questions

2014-03-30 Thread Vishesh Handa
On Sunday, March 30, 2014 11:39:23 AM Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > 1. Is the baloo file index stored at: "~.kde/share/apps/baloo/file/" ? > It was until beta2, for beta3 it has been moved ~/.local/share/baloo/file/ > > 2. Would deleting the above directory be sufficient to fore a reindex of my >

Re: Systems Settings - Desktop Search

2014-03-30 Thread Vishesh Handa
On Sunday, March 30, 2014 11:38:47 AM Shantanu Tushar Jha wrote: > > Another thing that I just remembered is that right now I have Nepomuk set > like this- > > /media/Data/Music (index) > /media/Data/Photos (index) > /media/Data/Pictures (index) > /media/Data/Other/Downloads (index) > > Now, /me