On Sunday, 14 de November de 2010 09:08:33 Inge Wallin wrote:
> I didn't see any reactions to this. Is anybody relaying any of the
> feedback here to the DBUS community? Thiago?
No need, since in the end the decision is that the session bus is not going to
get removed.
--
Thiago Macieira - thi
On Friday, November 12, 2010 11:37:43 Inge Wallin wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 10, 2010 00:29:32 Thiago Macieira wrote:
> > D-Bus community is proposing to do away with the session bus and replace
> > it with a user bus. Long story short, this means that multiple logins of
> > the same user are
Thiago Macieira wrote:
> Same thing about kwallet: when saving a new password, does it really read
> in all of the old contents? Or does it try to save from memory, from when
> the wallet was opened?
>
> More importantly: if this is a use-case that we support, is there anyone
> thinking of cases l
On Wednesday, November 10, 2010 00:29:32 Thiago Macieira wrote:
> D-Bus community is proposing to do away with the session bus and replace it
> with a user bus. Long story short, this means that multiple logins of the
> same user are not allowed by construction.
>
> Is this something we allow or e
On Wednesday, 10 de November de 2010 21:21:12 Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> > Peak performance at 0.44 ms at roundtrip. Throughput increases with
> > amount of data transferred per call.
> >
> > If you're making anywhere near 100 calls per second, you're doing
> > something wrong.
>
> 6 MB/s for lo
On Wednesday, 10 de November de 2010 22:42:53 Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> On Wednesday 10 November 2010, Thiago Macieira wrote:
> > Em Quarta-feira, 10 de Novembro de 2010, às 17:13:20, David Faure
>
> escreveu:
> > > Yes for daemons a user bus sounds good. But not for anything with a
> > > GUI - e.g. y
On Wednesday 10 November 2010, Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> On Wednesday 10 November 2010, Thiago Macieira wrote:
> > Em Quarta-feira, 10 de Novembro de 2010, às 18:01:18, Andras Mantia
>
> escreveu:
> > > On Wednesday 10 November 2010, Thiago Macieira wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, 10 de November de 2010
On Wednesday 10 November 2010, Thiago Macieira wrote:
> Em Quarta-feira, 10 de Novembro de 2010, às 18:01:18, Andras Mantia
escreveu:
> > On Wednesday 10 November 2010, Thiago Macieira wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, 10 de November de 2010 06:24:46 Andras Mantia wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday 10 November
On Wednesday 10 November 2010, Thiago Macieira wrote:
> Em Quarta-feira, 10 de Novembro de 2010, às 17:13:20, David Faure
escreveu:
> > Yes for daemons a user bus sounds good. But not for anything with a
> > GUI - e.g. you wouldn't be able to run any kuniqueapplication
> > twice (once on each disp
On Wednesday 10 November 2010, you wrote:
> Em Quarta-feira, 10 de Novembro de 2010, às 18:14:31, Alexander Neundorf
>
> escreveu:
> > I'm not sure it reaches the "fast" part of this goal...
>
> QDEBUG : tst_QDBusPerformance::oneWay(normal:256-byteArray) 249344 bytes in
> 500 ms (in 974 calls): 0.4
>
> D-Bus is not meant for network transparency. It's not part of its goals, so
> no
> one has tried to do it properly.
>
> You may want to drop D-Bus altoghether and use OMQ in instead, if you need
the network.
Bèrto
Em Quarta-feira, 10 de Novembro de 2010, às 18:14:31, Alexander Neundorf
escreveu:
> I'm not sure it reaches the "fast" part of this goal...
QDEBUG : tst_QDBusPerformance::oneWay(normal:256-byteArray) 249344 bytes in
500 ms (in 974 calls): 0.475586 MB/s
QDEBUG : tst_QDBusPerformance::oneWay(nor
Em Quarta-feira, 10 de Novembro de 2010, às 18:01:18, Andras Mantia escreveu:
> On Wednesday 10 November 2010, Thiago Macieira wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 10 de November de 2010 06:24:46 Andras Mantia wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 10 November 2010, Thiago Macieira wrote:
> > > > So I have to ask again: do
Em Quarta-feira, 10 de Novembro de 2010, às 17:13:20, David Faure escreveu:
> Yes for daemons a user bus sounds good. But not for anything with a GUI -
> e.g. you wouldn't be able to run any kuniqueapplication twice (once on
> each display), since the bus would tell it "you're already running".
Th
On Wednesday 10 November 2010, Thiago Macieira wrote:
> Em Quarta-feira 10 Novembro 2010, às 10:37:57, Mark Kretschmann escreveu:
> > On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 12:29 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote:
> > > D-Bus community is proposing to do away with the session bus and
> > > replace it with a user bus. Lo
On Wednesday 10 November 2010, Kevin Krammer wrote:
> On Wednesday, 2010-11-10, Chani wrote:
> > > > Actually, with the Akonadi based kmail, it no longer needs to be a
> > > > singleton and in fact isn't anymore, afaik. There is a per user
> > > > Akonadi server, and you can connect to it from as m
Em Quarta-feira, 10 de Novembro de 2010, às 14:56:23, Daniele E. Domenichelli
escreveu:
> On 11/10/2010 12:29 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote:
> > So I have to ask again: do we allow or support multiple logins of the
> > same user, on the same machine (same $HOME)?
>
> Does it affect logins on multiple
On 11/10/2010 12:29 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote:
> So I have to ask again: do we allow or support multiple logins of the same
> user, on the same machine (same $HOME)?
Does it affect logins on multiple machines sharing the same $HOME (for
example using nfs?)
I'd rather have an unique user bus AND
Em Quarta-feira 10 Novembro 2010, às 10:37:57, Mark Kretschmann escreveu:
> On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 12:29 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote:
> > D-Bus community is proposing to do away with the session bus and replace
> > it with a user bus. Long story short, this means that multiple logins of
> > the sam
On Wednesday, 2010-11-10, Till Adam wrote:
> On Wednesday 10 November 2010 00:46:08 David Faure wrote:
> > On Wednesday 10 November 2010, Thiago Macieira wrote:
> > > So I have to ask again: do we allow or support multiple logins of the
> > > same user, on the same machine (same $HOME)?
> >
> > Bu
On Wednesday 10 November 2010 00:46:08 David Faure wrote:
> On Wednesday 10 November 2010, Thiago Macieira wrote:
> > So I have to ask again: do we allow or support multiple logins of the
> > same user, on the same machine (same $HOME)?
> But yeah, using kmail from two logins at the same time woul
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 12:29 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote:
> D-Bus community is proposing to do away with the session bus and replace it
> with a user bus. Long story short, this means that multiple logins of the same
> user are not allowed by construction.
What I would really like, and please excu
On Wednesday, 2010-11-10, Chani wrote:
> > > Actually, with the Akonadi based kmail, it no longer needs to be a
> > > singleton and in fact isn't anymore, afaik. There is a per user Akonadi
> > > server, and you can connect to it from as many clients, graphical or
> > > otherwise, as you wish.
> >
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 09:10:48AM +0100, Thiago Macieira wrote:
> For example: KConfig has lock files so saving one file won't step on
> another instance's toes. However, does it really work? If the contents
> of the config file are read into memory and saved from memory, what
> happens to changes
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 08:45:36AM +0100, Thiago Macieira wrote:
> After this change: it's the same session, so it will reuse the running
> kdeinit4, klauncher, kded4, etc. If you try to use kwallet, the
> password dialog will show in the older session.
>
well, it doesn't have to be that way - the
On Wednesday, 10 de November de 2010 06:24:46 Andras Mantia wrote:
> On Wednesday 10 November 2010, Thiago Macieira wrote:
> > So I have to ask again: do we allow or support multiple logins of the
> > same user, on the same machine (same $HOME)?
>
> Uh, I hope they won't do it. I use *a lot* mult
On Wednesday, 10 de November de 2010 00:51:33 Chusslove Illich wrote:
> > [: Thiago Macieira :]
> > D-Bus community is proposing to do away with the session bus and replace
> > it with a user bus. Long story short, this means that multiple logins of
> > the same user are not allowed by construction
> [: Thiago Macieira :]
> D-Bus community is proposing to do away with the session bus and replace
> it with a user bus. Long story short, this means that multiple logins of
> the same user are not allowed by construction.
> [...]
> So I have to ask again: do we allow or support multiple logins of
On Wednesday 10 November 2010 00:29:32 Thiago Macieira wrote:
> So I have to ask again: do we allow or support multiple logins of the same
> user, on the same machine (same $HOME)?
With the current mess^Wstate of Multi Screen support we need to. At least I
need.
Christoph Feck (kdepepo)
On Wednesday 10 November 2010, Thiago Macieira wrote:
> So I have to ask again: do we allow or support multiple logins of the same
> user, on the same machine (same $HOME)?
Yes we do, that's exactly why the kdeinit socket is called kdeinit4__$DISPLAY.
Typical use case for me:
I'm logged in on my
D-Bus community is proposing to do away with the session bus and replace it
with a user bus. Long story short, this means that multiple logins of the same
user are not allowed by construction.
Is this something we allow or even support in KDE?
My first reaction to Ryan's email was to say that w
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