Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-22 Thread Dario Freddi
Hello, 2011/11/16 Albert Astals Cid : > In case someone is interested since it has never mentioned in this list, there > is a frameworks mailing list at kde-frameworks-devel > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-frameworks-devel I won't comment on having a separate list or whatever, since t

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-22 Thread Thomas Zander
On Sunday 20 November 2011 12.49.46 Thomas Friedrichsmeier wrote: > > so, if we're very honest with the situation, what some people are > > actually asking for is their feature to be released sooner, freeze and > > devel plans non- withstanding. [] > > we already have a consensus position, we alrea

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-22 Thread Jeremy Whiting
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Alexander Neundorf wrote: > On Tuesday 22 November 2011, Alex Merry wrote: >> On 20/11/11 20:57, Albert Astals Cid wrote: >> > This sounds like a "If you are going to disagree we don't want you in" >> > mantra, which is kind of worrying. >> >> I think it's more of

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-22 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Tuesday 22 November 2011, Alex Merry wrote: > On 20/11/11 20:57, Albert Astals Cid wrote: > > This sounds like a "If you are going to disagree we don't want you in" > > mantra, which is kind of worrying. > > I think it's more of a "if you're going to keep returning to decisions > that have alre

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-22 Thread Alex Merry
On 20/11/11 20:57, Albert Astals Cid wrote: This sounds like a "If you are going to disagree we don't want you in" mantra, which is kind of worrying. I think it's more of a "if you're going to keep returning to decisions that have already been made, we don't want you in". I'm not sure creati

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-22 Thread Aleix Pol
On 11/20/2011 09:57 PM, Albert Astals Cid wrote: A Dijous, 17 de novembre de 2011, Aaron J. Seigo vàreu escriure: On Wednesday, November 16, 2011 09:48:15 Thomas Friedrichsmeier wrote: On Wednesday 16 November 2011, Albert Astals Cid wrote: In case someone is interested since it has never ment

Re: Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-20 Thread Albert Astals Cid
A Dijous, 17 de novembre de 2011, Aaron J. Seigo vàreu escriure: > On Wednesday, November 16, 2011 09:48:15 Thomas Friedrichsmeier wrote: > > On Wednesday 16 November 2011, Albert Astals Cid wrote: > > > In case someone is interested since it has never mentioned in this > > > list, there is a frame

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-20 Thread Thomas Friedrichsmeier
Hi, I'll start with the bottom of your mail, and only add some clarifications after that. On Saturday 19 November 2011, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > so .. to summarize: > > * k-c-d needs more active guidance, and that guidance needs the support of > core members of the community > > * decisions nee

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-19 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Saturday, November 19, 2011 21:03:50 Thomas Friedrichsmeier wrote: > I don't want to play the blame-game. But I'm really worried about this > tendency to take essential discussions to side-channels. So I'm sorry to it worries me, too. we need to realize that it was our behaviour here on k-c-d

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-19 Thread Thomas Friedrichsmeier
Hi, I don't want to play the blame-game. But I'm really worried about this tendency to take essential discussions to side-channels. So I'm sorry to continue on one of those another lengthy meta discussions. On Saturday 19 November 2011, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Thursday, November 17, 2011 18:

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-19 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Saturday, November 19, 2011 12:22:33 Alexander Neundorf wrote: > How about doing something similar for the frameworks stuff ? > Use k-c-d, but prefix the subject with "KF5" or something. that does not prevent people from derailing the discussions by sending off- topic emails. noise is, unfortun

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-19 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday, November 17, 2011 18:17:30 Alexander Neundorf wrote: > If the signal to noise ratio here is considered too low, then having the KF5 > discussions here > * would have increased the signal, and thereby increased the SNR this assumes that the tendency to noise on this list would not prev

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-19 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Saturday 19 November 2011, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Thursday, November 17, 2011 16:21:55 Steven Sroka wrote: > > True, but then shouldnn't those interested in reviewboard patches go > > read what's on the reviewboard? > > the point of having them CC'd here is so that discussion of patches are

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-19 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday, November 17, 2011 16:21:55 Steven Sroka wrote: > True, but then shouldnn't those interested in reviewboard patches go > read what's on the reviewboard? the point of having them CC'd here is so that discussion of patches are visible to everyone involved in kdelibs development. with th

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-17 Thread Steven Sroka
>2011/11/17 Andras Mantia : > On Thursday, November 17, 2011 18:17:30 Alexander Neundorf wrote: >> > i was not sure i agreed with that approach, but i have to say that >> > the last few threads on this topic on k-c-d have supported their >> > point :( >> I would draw exactly the opposite conclusion

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-17 Thread Andras Mantia
On Thursday, November 17, 2011 18:17:30 Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > i was not sure i agreed with that approach, but i have to say that > > the last few threads on this topic on k-c-d have supported their > > point :( > I would draw exactly the opposite conclusion. > > If the signal to noise rati

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-17 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Thursday 17 November 2011, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Wednesday, November 16, 2011 09:48:15 Thomas Friedrichsmeier wrote: > > On Wednesday 16 November 2011, Albert Astals Cid wrote: > > > In case someone is interested since it has never mentioned in this > > > list, there is a frameworks mailing

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-17 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, November 16, 2011 09:48:15 Thomas Friedrichsmeier wrote: > On Wednesday 16 November 2011, Albert Astals Cid wrote: > > In case someone is interested since it has never mentioned in this list, > > there is a frameworks mailing list at kde-frameworks-devel > > https://mail.kde.org/mailm

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-16 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Wednesday 16 November 2011, Andras Mantia wrote: > On Wednesday, November 16, 2011 09:48:15 Thomas Friedrichsmeier wrote: > > So why have this discussion on a separate list, at all? Isn't that > > just the� sort of topic that kde-core-devel is for? > > I agree... > > Andras +1 Alex

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-16 Thread Andras Mantia
On Wednesday, November 16, 2011 09:48:15 Thomas Friedrichsmeier wrote: > So why have this discussion on a separate list, at all? Isn't that > just the� sort of topic that kde-core-devel is for? I agree... Andras

Re: Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-16 Thread Albert Astals Cid
A Dimecres, 16 de novembre de 2011, Thomas Friedrichsmeier vàreu escriure: > On Wednesday 16 November 2011, Albert Astals Cid wrote: > > In case someone is interested since it has never mentioned in this list, > > there is a frameworks mailing list at kde-frameworks-devel > > https://mail.kde.org/m

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-16 Thread Thomas Friedrichsmeier
On Wednesday 16 November 2011, Albert Astals Cid wrote: > In case someone is interested since it has never mentioned in this list, > there is a frameworks mailing list at kde-frameworks-devel > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-frameworks-devel So why have this discussion on a separate lis