Re: Setting up a Quality Team within KDE

. I think it would be good to avoid spending resources on this. -- Thomas Zander

Re: Question about unittesting

why we use QTextLib based unit tests; kevin pointed out great links to those already. -- Thomas Zander

Re: RFC: i18n: strict translation call-to-catalog mapping

Quoting Chusslove Illich : [: Thomas Zander :] I like that idea in general, not sure how to implement it properly, though. Simplest idea is to make cmake generate a "klocale-{module}.h" file and make everyone include that. But that sounds like a lot of work. Actually I have nothi

Re: RFC: i18n: strict translation call-to-catalog mapping

roblem that the string extraction will become very difficult since the context (the {module} here) would depend in gcc preprocessor or include path setups. Would be nice to have a solid suggestion for Chusslove :) -- Thomas Zander

Re: RFC: i18n: strict translation call-to-catalog mapping

e best solution to me. Then any app string will never resolve to a string in any framework. -- Thomas Zander

Re: RFC: i18n: strict translation call-to-catalog mapping

In my experience the current system scales rather well, but I could definitely be missing details here. -- Thomas Zander

Re: RFC: i18n: drop KUIT tags in KDE Frameworks 5.0?

On Saturday 24 March 2012 00.14.03 Alex Fiestas wrote: > On Friday, March 23, 2012 08:12:53 PM Thomas Zander wrote: > > Read those numbers again; its kinda depressing really; > > I don't have numbers but almost nobody is taking "close care" of > accessibility whe

Re: RFC: i18n: drop KUIT tags in KDE Frameworks 5.0?

can get people to fix their UIs and suddenly get people to care. But can we be certain enough of succeeding now where we clearly failed before that this is actually worth stopping the innovations that Chusslove is working on? Read those numbers again; its kinda depressing really; > Only 5 out of > 24 KUIT tags were used more than 100 times ( being the most used > with 333 appearances). -- Thomas Zander

Re: [GSoC] KWin colour management

color correction itself. > In that case we can safely assume that the user wants the app to take > care - compositor does no longer color correct the screen. > > There is no application taking care of it: compositor renders the whole > screen. Sounds good to me. -- Thomas Zander

Re: Review Request: include KolorManager in kdegraphics

os makes things ... complicated. See; http://www.oyranos.org/doc_alpha/index.html -- Thomas Zander

Re: Review Request: include KolorManager in kdegraphics

ager work under Windows and OSX ? Matthias answered your question very well, and I agree with him. Let me ask you a return question; with the heavy dependency on X11 in oyranos but with colord already starting work on wayland, how will we support wayland soon? -- Thomas Zander

Re: Review Request: include KolorManager in kdegraphics

On Wednesday 14 March 2012 18.12.13 Kai-Uwe Behrmann wrote: > Am 14.03.12, 17:46 +0100 schrieb Thomas Zander: > > On Wednesday 14 March 2012 16.39.00 Boudewijn Rempt wrote: > >>> Colord - just to mention that - is also not a GNOME project, it's a > >>> F

Re: Review Request: include KolorManager in kdegraphics

if its gnome or any other player pushing it. That said; Cups also depends on colord. And IMO that has a bigger impact than the gnome components that pull it in. -- Thomas Zander

Re: Review Request: include KolorManager in kdegraphics

missing some piece of software? -- Thomas Zander

Re: Review Request: include KolorManager in kdegraphics

ve an opinion on a (technical) idea, the above is not acceptable. Please respect these values we hold dear here in KDE :) -- Thomas Zander

Re: Review Request: include KolorManager in kdegraphics

d, even if there is currently no KDE gui for it. -- Thomas Zander

Re: DrKonqi improvement idea

Quoting Niko Sams : On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:36, Thomas Zander wrote: I'd say this is a great idea, mostly because it means a lot more can be automated on lots of ends. Naturally, the actual automation means research and development, which means manpower.   I didn't get from you

Re: DrKonqi improvement idea

Quoting Niko Sams : On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 17:32, Thomas Zander wrote: On Monday 12 March 2012 16.20.00 David Jarvie wrote: There would be an advantage in giving instant feedback to the user if possible, but if that turns out to be impractical, Thomas's suggestion of using backg

Re: Re: DrKonqi improvement idea

made into bugzilla tasks which are handled as normal. So, I'm interested (and active) in solving this in a way that is only a little related to bugzilla and get free from the thinking imposed by bugzilla. -- Thomas Zander

Re: DrKonqi improvement idea

be clear that I would love to do it, if time permits. Which probably means soon, but not just yet. -- Thomas Zander

Re: DrKonqi improvement idea

me on my hands, and it sounds like a fun (and needed) project so I could help out. Cheers -- Thomas Zander

Re: Please avoid noisy merge commits in frameworks

ng; "git pull --rebase" The 'no branching work' is what 90% of the contributors will do, they just work on one branch all the time. -- Thomas Zander

Re: hard-dep for Qt 4.8

g. Using that would give a compile error. -- Thomas Zander

Re: hard-dep for Qt 4.8

On Wednesday 18 January 2012 10.11.58 todd rme wrote: > But according to Martin, this isn't just about API changes, it is also about > behavior changes. How do you expect people to know if they are relying on a > Qt 4.8-specific behavior? As far as I know there are no forward incompatible behavio

Re: hard-dep for Qt 4.8

derestimating the positive influence that group has on our community. Kind of a postscript I just wanted to reply on your argument for a branch. It doesn't in practice apply to the guys coming in with a simple bugfix. Their starting point will very likely be the current main branch. -- Thomas Zander

Re: hard-dep for Qt 4.8

it does have a pretty big influence on our community members that may not have the computer power or computer savy or just the time you have. thanks :) -- Thomas Zander

Re: hard-dep for Qt 4.8

e and thus you can use 4.8 while others use or develop against 4.7. So your rationale doesn't specify why you think it makes sense to force everyone to go through the upgrade of Qt. The only reason is that you want to use Qt 4.8 features. But a simple ifdef can typically help. -- Thomas Zander

Re: hard-dep for Qt 4.8

torsdagen den 12 januari 2012 22.50.24 skrev Ingo Klöcker: > If you want developers to switch to Qt 4.8 to get the KDE code better > tested with this version of Qt then simply ask developers to do so. I > see no good reason to force developers to do so. +1 -- Thomas Zander

Re: ktouchpadenabler moved to kdereview

On Wednesday 04 January 2012 21.55.36 Lamarque V. Souza wrote: > My question is: since you know how to send patches to Qt's > repository wouldn't be better just send my patch upstream (it is > here https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=182672) Contributing to Qt is a simple matter; after

Re: Review Request: Port shutdown dialog to QML

On Wednesday 04 January 2012 20.54.27 Alexander Neundorf wrote: > It would mean that simply using "kdeclarative" means that cmake > interprets this as name of a library and simply adds -lkdeclarative to the > command > line, without checking whether it actually exists nor in which directory. I ca

Re: Can we please have an updated and confirmed working "build KDE from source as separate user"?

On Monday 02 January 2012 00.49.17 Mark wrote: > There isn't a good description for what needs to be placed in .bashrc > and.profile and/or .bash_profile. Here is what works for me; (in ~/.bash_profile) --> KDEDIR=/home/tzander/work/kde/build-47/installed export QTDIR=/home/tzander/work/kd

Re: Review Request: Add KFontDialog->setSampleText()

--- > > > > Review request for kdelibs. Anders, to keep the full thread consistent for all, I think it would be best to write replies on the reviewboard site only. Cheers! -- Thomas Zander

Re: More devices into the Shortcut system...

e high-level-overview! Altering Qt classes is going to be tricky since the feature-freeze in Qt is coming very very quickly. (mere weeks) So unless this can be done binary-compatible this change will likely have to wait for Qt6 ;) -- Thomas Zander

Re: Suggestions for some KDE default options

meritocrazy where personal accomplishments are the highest achievements. Have a nice day :) -- Thomas Zander

Re: kactivities update

s kind of talking is not very helpful. Please be part of KDE, in a positive way. :-) Thanks! -- Thomas Zander

Re: Moving libmm-qt and libnm-qt to kdereview

network manager people tell you you should make it essentially an abbreviation it would be bad for a couple of reasons. Mostly the reasons suggested above :) It would be good to start with the names as you suggest, and I personally have no preference between the lowercase and the mixed-case ones. Lets start with a descriptive and clear name, to raise the bar. Cheers! -- Thomas Zander

Re: Moving libmm-qt and libnm-qt to kdereview

hich is actually a shared memory helper, > unrelated to libmm-qt (though the name suggests otherwise). "mm" and "nm" > really don't say much about what these libraries do. the names are > ambiguous and stand a high chance of collision with other libraries. +1 -- Thomas Zander

Re: Frameworks mailing list

e we keep our past decisions actual.In the mean time we will stay on course. Thanks!" And just as important, the topic should be closed by the simple act of people not replying anymore. Bottom line for me is that we move the responsibility of defending decisions and documenting them and gathering them up etc from the people that made those decisions to the community at large. -- Thomas Zander

Re: This starts to become a dangerous path (Was: New Feature for kdelibs)

the auto-download plasma thing to frameworks. Scott K wrote also; > I get that what you're doing makes complete sense from your perspective. It also makes sense from the long term, the medium term and the KDE community perspectives. The short term you have to talk to the maintainer of the application you are targetting; but thats obviously off topic for this list. -- Thomas Zander

Re: The future of Power Management - together with Activities

hink this is the best way to take your wishes into account :) I have great experience with those guys changing their point of view if you can show a good usecase which they did not think about yet. Cheers! -- Thomas Zander

Re: The future of Power Management - together with Activities

gement and the activities concept are not at all orthogonal, its a natural evolution. -- Thomas Zander

Re: The future of Power Management - together with Activities

> The part that I think is confusing is to make is so that one changes the > way power management works in some cases so that it's not in power > management. It's going to confuse approximately everyone who cares that is > not a KDE devloper. It may be that few enough people care that aren't > inv

Re: The future of Power Management - together with Activities

nce otherwise it would stay on always, which is particularly disturbing at night. My usecases could now be solved by having an activity like "watching TV", another thats "Music centre" for usage at parties and a 3rd for "idle" state which turns off the screen after 2 min. Thanks! -- Thomas Zander

Re: QML support in kde.org services

On Tuesday 13 September 2011 02.52.53 Giorgos Tsiapaliwkas wrote: > Does anyone can point me to the qt docs system and how it works(any link?)? http://doc.qt.nokia.com/latest/qthelp-framework.html -- Thomas Zander

Re: QML support in kde.org services

in kdesdk (or whatever is used on docs.kde.org). See point 12 of the FAQ; http://www.stack.nl/~dimitri/doxygen/faq.html Here is a version that claims to do this trick for cmake modules; https://github.com/saschazelzer/CMakeDoxygenFilter/ -- Thomas Zander

Re: Review Request: Change konqueror tabs look and feel

--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/102519/#review6263 --- Showing less text even when you have the space for it sounds lik

Re: playground-libs/libkvkontakte has moved to kdereview

release and compare it for every subsequent release so you can avoid accidental breakages. I've been doing C++ for years, and I still accidentally make breakages when I change something I didn't expect to cause issues, its much easier to break than you might expect ;) Cheers! -- Thomas Zander

Re: git workflow draft

es do full mirrors of many open source git repositories from lots of different sources, there this would get lost too. I would be happier with the KDE/x.y solution, personally. -- Thomas Zander

Re: playground-libs/libkvkontakte has moved to kdereview

On Wednesday 17 August 2011 09.24.31 Alexander Potashev wrote: > >> If I'll add just a forward declaration like "class NoteInfoPrivate;" >> and a "NoteInfoPrivate *p;" into the NoteInfo class, will it be OK?> > > I guess you mean using a d-pointer, yes, that's the suggested way of > > dealing with

Re: Review Request: Do not terminate threads

On Sunday 14 August 2011 23.05.41 Albert Astals Cid wrote: > #2 Your patch has several issues i mentioned there I noticed those too, and I wanted to just say that I'd trust David and Thiago on these concepts any day. Maybe we can just use the structure they suggested (and Albert coded) and move

Re: Review Request: Speed limit in ftp kio slave

--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/102267/#review5598 --- kioslave/ftp/speedController.h

Re: Review Request: Replace thread usage with local event loop in kio/kio/hostinfo.cpp

On Tuesday 09 August 2011 12.59.49 Thomas Zander wrote: > Another solution for using a timeout can be something like the > attached version (I didn't even try to compile it, maybe the helper object > has to be > moved to a _p.h file to get moc to run on it..) Oh, and the mut

Re: Review Request: Replace thread usage with local event loop in kio/kio/hostinfo.cpp

ng the current architecture. >From 09eb6196198c057245651b7057cae9c079fbeeea Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Thomas Zander Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 12:32:55 +0200 Subject: [PATCH 1/2] fix typos --- kio/kio/kurifilter.h |4 ++-- 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/

Re: Review Request: Replace thread usage with local event loop in kio/kio/hostinfo.cpp

On Monday 08 August 2011 21.28.45 Dawit A wrote: > On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Thomas Zander wrote: > > On Monday 08 August 2011 21.02.02 Dawit A wrote: > >> On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Thomas Zander wrote: > >> > On Monday 08 August 2011 18.35.13 Dawit A w

Re: Review Request: Replace thread usage with local event loop in kio/kio/hostinfo.cpp

On Monday 08 August 2011 21.02.02 Dawit A wrote: > On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Thomas Zander wrote: > > On Monday 08 August 2011 18.35.13 Dawit A wrote: > >> #2. The original functions in this class were non-blocking. It is only > >> the new function I added that i

Re: Review Request: Replace thread usage with local event loop in kio/kio/hostinfo.cpp

impler to wrap the Qt method like this? const int id = QHostInfo::lookupHost ( hostname, receiver, slot); QTimer::singleshot(timeout, QHostInfo::abortHostLookup (id ); And do we really want a public API doing that? I would guess a private (or non exported) method in kio and/or khtml can do that. -- Thomas Zander

Re: Review Request: Prevent KMessageBox instances with a parent from being application modal

--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/102246/#review5517 --- > This change could alter the behaviour of some windows, if they

Re: Review Request: Improve Calculate/Stop buttons when folder Size is being calculated

--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/102149/#review5482 --- Hmm, did this get committed already? visually the change looks

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name "System Settings" by GNOME

t someone that goes with the assumption that a piece of software is only usable on one desktop won't have problems if you call a similar piece of software the same on your desktop. In general; please stop assuming ;) (ask politely first) -- Thomas Zander

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name "System Settings" by GNOME

ystem settings application. I'll personally take a look at my app; KWord. I have to figure out if Gnome (or Windows) users can configure their locale so we don't have a default of A4 for users that want a Letter sized page. -- Thomas Zander