Re: Releases in 3 months

2013-07-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
I wish I was there. Scott K Albert Astals Cid wrote: >Just as a reminder, we have the Release Team BOF tomorrow July 17 at >10:15 at >Room A2 > >Cheers, > Albert > >El Dimarts, 16 de juliol de 2013, a les 14:38:47, Scott Kitterman va >escriure: >> On Monday, July 15, 2013 09:00:27 PM Luca Bel

Re: Releases in 3 months

2013-07-16 Thread Albert Astals Cid
Just as a reminder, we have the Release Team BOF tomorrow July 17 at 10:15 at Room A2 Cheers, Albert El Dimarts, 16 de juliol de 2013, a les 14:38:47, Scott Kitterman va escriure: > On Monday, July 15, 2013 09:00:27 PM Luca Beltrame wrote: > > Àlex Fiestas wrote: > > > Now that kde-workspace a

Re: KDE/4.11 branched what to do with kde-workspace?

2013-07-16 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Tuesday 16 July 2013, Martin Graesslin wrote: > On Monday 15 July 2013 14:42:14 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > Hey, > > > > On Tuesday, July 09, 2013 18:57:41 Albert Astals Cid wrote: > > > So the kde-workspace dudes decided they don't want a 4.12 release and > > > that they'll do a LTS 4.11, fine

Re: Releases in 3 months

2013-07-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, July 15, 2013 09:00:27 PM Luca Beltrame wrote: > Àlex Fiestas wrote: > > Now that kde-workspace and kdelibs are going to be frozen (which in theory > > means less work for everybody) I'd like to propose a new release schedule > > to be applied starting with 4.12. > > Replying to the mes

Re: Releases in 3 months

2013-07-16 Thread Ben
On 07/15/2013 05:54 AM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: We are experimenting with the idea of a “long term release” version with kde- workspace. If 4.11 gets widely used, deployed and stabalized (as we hope it will) then blessing specific releases for extended #s of releases may be a good approach. Right

Re: Releases in 3 months

2013-07-16 Thread Luca Beltrame
Àlex Fiestas wrote: > Now that kde-workspace and kdelibs are going to be frozen (which in theory > means less work for everybody) I'd like to propose a new release schedule > to be applied starting with 4.12. Replying to the message starting the thread because I forgot something important at lea

Re: KDE/4.11 branched what to do with kde-workspace?

2013-07-16 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Monday 15 July 2013 14:42:14 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > Hey, > > On Tuesday, July 09, 2013 18:57:41 Albert Astals Cid wrote: > > So the kde-workspace dudes decided they don't want a 4.12 release and that > > they'll do a LTS 4.11, fine, how do we fix that branch wise? > > After carefully readin

Re: KDE/4.11 branched what to do with kde-workspace?

2013-07-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Monday, July 15, 2013 10:15:10 Michael Pyne wrote: > On Mon, July 15, 2013 12:27:53 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > On Saturday, July 13, 2013 23:36:24 David Faure wrote: > > Doing a 4.12 / 4.13 makes that infeasible: it would mean continuing to > > track the 4.11 branch *and* master *and* the Qt5 br

Re: KDE/4.11 branched what to do with kde-workspace?

2013-07-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Monday, July 15, 2013 10:18:17 Michael Pyne wrote: > That (or something like it) would be wonderful. ok; so we have a potential winner unless someone produces a valid objection. since a move to Qt5/Frameworks5 for master inherently brings this breakage with it, we’ll simply need to produce an

Re: KDE/4.11 branched what to do with kde-workspace?

2013-07-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Monday, July 15, 2013 20:00:39 Thomas Lübking wrote: > But KDE has ever released as block and so far still releases as block. this is a non-argument. otherwise we will forever keep the SC together exactly as it is. flexibility can be useful. > If now ppl. get "mostly block and some bits of ol

Re: Releases in 3 months

2013-07-16 Thread Luigi Toscano
Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > translations .. this will require some time spent with the translation > maintainers to figure out what will work well for those efforts. The risk here is that when branches which have been in preparation for a long time are merged, or simply many branches are merged, the a

Re: Review Request 111480: Notifications are shown multiple times

2013-07-16 Thread Cedric Bellegarde
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Re: Releases in 3 months

2013-07-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Monday, July 15, 2013 11:51:38 Scott Kitterman wrote: > 30 of the 42 weeks are spent in some kind of freeze state. Without process > changes to get from "feature complete" to "released" there's no way to get > to a three month cycle. those of us in favour of a shorter development cycle are als

Re: Releases in 3 months

2013-07-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Monday, July 15, 2013 14:16:01 Luca Beltrame wrote: > Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > "we should try to recruit more people from the user community of > > downstream distributions who have the skills necessary to merge patches > > and test. some distributions do this already.” > > The reason I menti

Re: Review Request 111480: Notifications are shown multiple times

2013-07-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
> On July 15, 2013, 10:49 a.m., Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > i think that technically this is a bug in the applications triggering it, > > but i agree we should probably work around it. the performance of the patch > > is theoretically bad (linear time), but hopefully nobody is storing 1000s > >

Re: Review Request 111480: Notifications are shown multiple times

2013-07-16 Thread Cedric Bellegarde
> On July 15, 2013, 10:49 a.m., Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > i think that technically this is a bug in the applications triggering it, > > but i agree we should probably work around it. the performance of the patch > > is theoretically bad (linear time), but hopefully nobody is storing 1000s > >