Re: Is BugID 48062 worth all this?

2011-11-22 Thread Thomas Lübking
2011/11/23 Markus Slopianka : > The bug report is asking to let Mouse button 4 act as ALT key in order to > move windows > pressing buttons 1 and 4 at the same time. > That is definitely just a complicated mess. > > Assigning shortcuts to mouse buttons as in 96431: Cool. > Bug 48062: Crap. agreed

Re: Is BugID 48062 worth all this?

2011-11-22 Thread Markus Slopianka
The bug report is asking to let Mouse button 4 act as ALT key in order to move windows pressing buttons 1 and 4 at the same time. That is definitely just a complicated mess. Assigning shortcuts to mouse buttons as in 96431: Cool. Bug 48062: Crap. In any case: That's not even a KDE bug – should

Is BugID 48062 worth all this?

2011-11-22 Thread Rick Stockton
I need advice- do the masters of KDE consider https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48062 to be important? It's got a ton of votes, but I'll SWAG that a majority opf those votes were really votes for https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96431 -- get higher-numbered mouse buttons into the shortc

Re: Requesting freeze exception for JtG

2011-11-22 Thread Pau Garcia i Quiles
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:58 PM, Richard Moore wrote: > I've read over the code changes for this, and it seems to be quite a > bit more invasive than a simple addition to the about dialog: > > 1) Changes to ui_standards.rc > > This is a high-risk change. It affects every application that uses > X

adding a runtime dependency into KDELIBS

2011-11-22 Thread Alex Fiestas
We're in the process of merging a review which will partly fix the sad situation of MTP/MPI/iPod devices in libsolid, the review I'm talking about is: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/103028/ This as far as I know was (is) working with the linux-deprecated HAL backend, so is something we urg

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-22 Thread Dario Freddi
Hello, 2011/11/16 Albert Astals Cid : > In case someone is interested since it has never mentioned in this list, there > is a frameworks mailing list at kde-frameworks-devel > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-frameworks-devel I won't comment on having a separate list or whatever, since t

Re: Review Request: udev PortableMediaPlayer: read protocols from media-player-info; docs

2011-11-22 Thread Matěj Laitl
> On Nov. 20, 2011, 3:37 a.m., Alex Fiestas wrote: > > solid/solid/backends/udev/udevportablemediaplayer.cpp, line 109 > > > > > > We have been returning "mtp" as the protocol that identify "mtp" > > devices, the v

Re: Review Request: udev PortableMediaPlayer: read protocols from media-player-info; docs

2011-11-22 Thread Alex Fiestas
> On Nov. 20, 2011, 3:37 a.m., Alex Fiestas wrote: > > solid/solid/backends/udev/udevportablemediaplayer.cpp, line 109 > > > > > > We have been returning "mtp" as the protocol that identify "mtp" > > devices, the v

Re: Review Request: udev PortableMediaPlayer: read protocols from media-player-info; docs

2011-11-22 Thread Alex Fiestas
> On Nov. 20, 2011, 3:38 a.m., Alex Fiestas wrote: > > Oh another thing, the CMakeList should check for media-player-info as an > > optional dependency > > Matěj Laitl wrote: > OK, I'll add that. The problem is that media-player-info is runtime-only > depencency - even if not present durin

Re: Requesting freeze exception for JtG

2011-11-22 Thread Richard Moore
I've read over the code changes for this, and it seems to be quite a bit more invasive than a simple addition to the about dialog: 1) Changes to ui_standards.rc This is a high-risk change. It affects every application that uses XMLGUI and KParts plugins. I did quite a lot of work in this area in

Re: Review Request: udev PortableMediaPlayer: read protocols from media-player-info; docs

2011-11-22 Thread Matěj Laitl
> On Nov. 20, 2011, 3:38 a.m., Alex Fiestas wrote: > > Oh another thing, the CMakeList should check for media-player-info as an > > optional dependency OK, I'll add that. The problem is that media-player-info is runtime-only depencency - even if not present during build, it will work if instal

Re: Review Request: udev PortableMediaPlayer: read protocols from media-player-info; docs

2011-11-22 Thread Matěj Laitl
> On Nov. 20, 2011, 3:37 a.m., Alex Fiestas wrote: > > solid/solid/backends/udev/udevportablemediaplayer.cpp, line 109 > > > > > > We have been returning "mtp" as the protocol that identify "mtp" > > devices, the v

Re: Requesting freeze exception for JtG

2011-11-22 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Tuesday 22 November 2011, Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote: > On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > AFAIK (according to several mails from Dirk), there will be a kdelibs > > release together with the rest of KDE SC 4.8, and it will also be called > > 4.8. > > > > But it will

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-22 Thread Thomas Zander
On Sunday 20 November 2011 12.49.46 Thomas Friedrichsmeier wrote: > > so, if we're very honest with the situation, what some people are > > actually asking for is their feature to be released sooner, freeze and > > devel plans non- withstanding. [] > > we already have a consensus position, we alrea

Re: Requesting freeze exception for JtG

2011-11-22 Thread Pau Garcia i Quiles
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Alexander Neundorf wrote: > AFAIK (according to several mails from Dirk), there will be a kdelibs release > together with the rest of KDE SC 4.8, and it will also be called 4.8. > > But it will be a feature-frozen bug fixed kdelibs 4.7 basically. That's why this n

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-22 Thread Jeremy Whiting
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Alexander Neundorf wrote: > On Tuesday 22 November 2011, Alex Merry wrote: >> On 20/11/11 20:57, Albert Astals Cid wrote: >> > This sounds like a "If you are going to disagree we don't want you in" >> > mantra, which is kind of worrying. >> >> I think it's more of

Re: Requesting freeze exception for JtG

2011-11-22 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Tuesday 22 November 2011, Eike Hein wrote: > On 11/22/2011 1:32 PM, Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote: > > The changes I need to commit need to go into kdelibs. AFAIK, post-4.8 > > releases will be based on kdelibs 4.8. In fact, kdelibs 4.8 is > > essentially 4.7 (there is no 4.8 branch for kdelibs). Or

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-22 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Tuesday 22 November 2011, Alex Merry wrote: > On 20/11/11 20:57, Albert Astals Cid wrote: > > This sounds like a "If you are going to disagree we don't want you in" > > mantra, which is kind of worrying. > > I think it's more of a "if you're going to keep returning to decisions > that have alre

Re: Requesting freeze exception for JtG

2011-11-22 Thread Eike Hein
On 11/22/2011 1:32 PM, Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote: The changes I need to commit need to go into kdelibs. AFAIK, post-4.8 releases will be based on kdelibs 4.8. In fact, kdelibs 4.8 is essentially 4.7 (there is no 4.8 branch for kdelibs). Or am I wrong? Right, I didn't realize you were talking ab

Re: Review Request: Ensure Plasma Desktop does not crash on exit with Qt 4.8

2011-11-22 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday, November 22, 2011 13:27:53 Thomas =?ISO-8859-1?Q?L=FCbking?= > Given a simple mutex and a qWarning() -if hit- would not only have told > people but also prevented crashes by implementation rather than by > convention, I feel required to mention that this change of > implications -as do

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-22 Thread Alex Merry
On 20/11/11 20:57, Albert Astals Cid wrote: This sounds like a "If you are going to disagree we don't want you in" mantra, which is kind of worrying. I think it's more of a "if you're going to keep returning to decisions that have already been made, we don't want you in". I'm not sure creati

Re: Requesting freeze exception for JtG

2011-11-22 Thread Pau Garcia i Quiles
Hi, On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Eike Hein wrote: > On 11/22/2011 2:51 AM, Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote: >> >> - Because 4.8 is probably the last release before 5.0 > > I don't think there is any plan to make 4.8 the last > release before 5.0. The plan with Frameworks develop- > ment is explic

Re: Review Request: Ensure Plasma Desktop does not crash on exit with Qt 4.8

2011-11-22 Thread Thomas Lübking
Am Tue, 22 Nov 2011 11:49:39 +0100 schrieb Thiago Macieira : > On Tuesday, 22 de November de 2011 09.57.32, Thomas Lübking wrote: > > is there any detailed (official) explanation on this? > > Yes. > > In Qt, we declared code that accessed the list in question *while* > the items are being delete

Re: Requesting freeze exception for JtG

2011-11-22 Thread Eike Hein
On 11/22/2011 1:23 PM, Eike Hein wrote: ... unless plans have changed and the Frameworks porting is supposed to happen before Frameworks is ported to Qt 5, which would be news to me (and also make relatively sense given that it would mean break- ing SC and BC two times in short succession). Rel

Re: Requesting freeze exception for JtG

2011-11-22 Thread Eike Hein
On 11/22/2011 2:51 AM, Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote: - Because 4.8 is probably the last release before 5.0 I don't think there is any plan to make 4.8 the last release before 5.0. The plan with Frameworks develop- ment is explicitly to avoid interrupting the develop- ment and release of the non-li

Re: Review Request: Ensure Plasma Desktop does not crash on exit with Qt 4.8

2011-11-22 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Tuesday, 22 de November de 2011 09.57.32, Thomas Lübking wrote: > is there any detailed (official) explanation on this? Yes. In Qt, we declared code that accessed the list in question *while* the items are being deleted as broken by design, so we felt free to optimise qDeleteAll by ignoring pe

Re: Frameworks mailing list

2011-11-22 Thread Aleix Pol
On 11/20/2011 09:57 PM, Albert Astals Cid wrote: A Dijous, 17 de novembre de 2011, Aaron J. Seigo vàreu escriure: On Wednesday, November 16, 2011 09:48:15 Thomas Friedrichsmeier wrote: On Wednesday 16 November 2011, Albert Astals Cid wrote: In case someone is interested since it has never ment

Review Request: Allow the user to choose sftp or fish on knetattach

2011-11-22 Thread Javier Llorente
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/103199/ --- Review request for KDE Runtime. Description --- This patch allows the

Re: Review Request: Ensure Plasma Desktop does not crash on exit with Qt 4.8

2011-11-22 Thread Thomas Lübking
> On Nov. 22, 2011, 9:24 a.m., Thomas Lübking wrote: > > plasma/private/containment_p.h, line 71 > > > > > > ibeg your pardon? > > to me this looks like you delete the same entry forever (what *will* > > crash a

Re: Requesting freeze exception for JtG

2011-11-22 Thread Pau Garcia i Quiles
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Alex Merry wrote: > On 22/11/11 01:51, Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote: >> >> Given that we are already feature frozen, I am hereby requesting a >> freeze exception for the following: > > This request should go to the release team mailing list, shouldn't it? You are pr

Re: Review Request: Ensure Plasma Desktop does not crash on exit with Qt 4.8

2011-11-22 Thread Ben Cooksley
> On Nov. 22, 2011, 9:24 a.m., Thomas Lübking wrote: > > plasma/private/containment_p.h, line 71 > > > > > > ibeg your pardon? > > to me this looks like you delete the same entry forever (what *will* > > crash a

Re: Review Request: Ensure Plasma Desktop does not crash on exit with Qt 4.8

2011-11-22 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
> On Nov. 22, 2011, 9:24 a.m., Thomas Lübking wrote: > > plasma/private/containment_p.h, line 71 > > > > > > ibeg your pardon? > > to me this looks like you delete the same entry forever (what *will* > > crash a

Re: Requesting freeze exception for JtG

2011-11-22 Thread Alex Merry
On 22/11/11 01:51, Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote: Given that we are already feature frozen, I am hereby requesting a freeze exception for the following: This request should go to the release team mailing list, shouldn't it? Alex

Re: Review Request: Ensure Plasma Desktop does not crash on exit with Qt 4.8

2011-11-22 Thread Thomas Lübking
> On Nov. 22, 2011, 9:24 a.m., Thomas Lübking wrote: > > plasma/private/containment_p.h, line 71 > > > > > > ibeg your pardon? > > to me this looks like you delete the same entry forever (what *will* > > crash a

Re: Review Request: Ensure Plasma Desktop does not crash on exit with Qt 4.8

2011-11-22 Thread Ben Cooksley
> On Nov. 22, 2011, 9:24 a.m., Thomas Lübking wrote: > > plasma/private/containment_p.h, line 71 > > > > > > ibeg your pardon? > > to me this looks like you delete the same entry forever (what *will* > > crash a

Re: Review Request: Ensure Plasma Desktop does not crash on exit with Qt 4.8

2011-11-22 Thread Thomas Lübking
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/103202/#review8384 --- plasma/private/containment_p.h

Re: Review Request: Ensure Plasma Desktop does not crash on exit with Qt 4.8

2011-11-22 Thread Commit Hook
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/103202/#review8379 --- This review has been submitted with commit f02884d36bc6ff4db445

Re: Review Request: Ensure Plasma Desktop does not crash on exit with Qt 4.8

2011-11-22 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/103202/#review8378 --- Ship it! this is massively bad on the part of qt :/ what a craz