On Sunday 02 October 2011 18:36:14 Allen Winter wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> A lot of CMakeLists.txt use the ${GENERIC_LIB_VERSION} to set the so
> versioning of their libraries.
> That variable is hard-coded in kdelibs/cmake/modules/KDE4Defaults.cmake
>
> If we rely on kdelibs-4.7 for the KDE SC 4.8 rel
A quick noticed to kde-core-dev: I will be writing fruther follow-ups to
the only the "kwin" list, unless someone asks me to continue a CC: on
the core list.
On 01/-10/-28163 11:59 AM, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
On Friday 30 September 2011 15:14:10 Rick Stockton wrote:
I've been inspired by the 's
On Sunday, October 02, 2011 06:44:41 PM Dario Freddi wrote:
> I would like to draw your attention to the address of this list. It
> has a nice -devel prefix. I don´t take part in discussions where I am
> not knowledgeable about the topic. So far the answers I got are among
> this category.
>
> -
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Michael Pyne wrote:
> On Sunday, October 02, 2011 20:01:55 Dario Freddi wrote:
>> I know, and I am sorry I had to come to a point where I needed to be
>> harsh. You also have to keep in mind I am one of the few guys who does
>> the dirty job, and I mostly get flame
On Sunday, October 02, 2011 20:01:55 Dario Freddi wrote:
> I know, and I am sorry I had to come to a point where I needed to be
> harsh. You also have to keep in mind I am one of the few guys who does
> the dirty job, and I mostly get flames more than anything. Usually,
> the gratification for a de
2011/10/2 Michael Pyne :
> On Sunday, October 02, 2011 19:52:09 Dario Freddi wrote:
>> On Sunday 02 October 2011 19:35:15 Michael Pyne wrote:
>> > And even assuming the user knows how to do this, if they want to change
>> > power management options we are saying that they need to duplicate an
>> >
On Sunday, October 02, 2011 19:52:09 Dario Freddi wrote:
> On Sunday 02 October 2011 19:35:15 Michael Pyne wrote:
> > And even assuming the user knows how to do this, if they want to change
> > power management options we are saying that they need to duplicate an
> > existing activity, change the
Howdy,
A lot of CMakeLists.txt use the ${GENERIC_LIB_VERSION} to set the so versioning
of their libraries.
That variable is hard-coded in kdelibs/cmake/modules/KDE4Defaults.cmake
If we rely on kdelibs-4.7 for the KDE SC 4.8 release, then all the shared
libraries using ${GENERIC_LIB_VERSION} wil
For people interested, this is how the new config UI+Battery plasmoid
are roughly going to look like, to finally throw away the concerns
about the configurability and the ¨presentation¨-like things.
http://vimeo.com/29919817
Vimeo is broken apparently, but you can still download the video. Hope
t
Btw, I would like to leave the readers, mainly the two who are
accusing me of being a d**k, an exercise and count how many times the
following questions came up:
-Ok but I cannot watch my videos anymore
-I will not be able to configure my profiles anymore
-Blahblah I want to do power management
2011/10/2 David Jarvie :
> On Sunday 02 October 2011 18:47:19 Dario Freddi wrote:
>> On Sunday 02 October 2011 19:34:42 Andreas Pakulat wrote:
>> > That leaves out the use-case of not wanting to inhibit all aspects of
>> > the current power-save mode, but only a part by switching to a different
>>
On Sunday 02 October 2011 18:47:19 Dario Freddi wrote:
> On Sunday 02 October 2011 19:34:42 Andreas Pakulat wrote:
> > That leaves out the use-case of not wanting to inhibit all aspects of
> > the current power-save mode, but only a part by switching to a different
> > mode that is similar but diff
2011/10/2 todd rme :
> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Dario Freddi wrote:
>> On Sunday 02 October 2011 21:03:45 todd rme wrote:
>>> Thinking over the conversation a bit, I think the disagreement stems
>>> not from the activities vs. profiles issue, but rather different
>>> expectations about what
2011/10/2 Scott Kitterman :
> On Sunday, October 02, 2011 09:28:42 PM Dario Freddi wrote:
>> No, sorry to say that again. There are two categories of people: those who
>> know what they are talking about and those who don't. Your understanding of
>> this categorization is coming from the fact that
2011/10/2 Scott Kitterman :
> On Sunday, October 02, 2011 08:37:58 PM Dario Freddi wrote:
>> On Sunday 02 October 2011 20:31:37 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
>> > And that's now exactly the point: if you don't have any clue about what
>> > is happening your "I want to save power and not let the computer
>
On Sunday, October 02, 2011 09:28:42 PM Dario Freddi wrote:
> No, sorry to say that again. There are two categories of people: those who
> know what they are talking about and those who don't. Your understanding of
> this categorization is coming from the fact that you didn't understand what
> I
On Sunday, October 02, 2011 08:37:58 PM Dario Freddi wrote:
> On Sunday 02 October 2011 20:31:37 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> > And that's now exactly the point: if you don't have any clue about what
> > is happening your "I want to save power and not let the computer
> > decide" might be much worse th
On Sunday, October 02, 2011 20:31:11 Dario Freddi wrote:
> I don't think so. Every other system does a similar thing: there is no
> use in saving battery when you're on AC, when you are on battery
> these components are turned off. I don't think this should be
> configurable at all, and to a certai
On Sunday 02 October 2011 21:03:45 todd rme wrote:
> Thinking over the conversation a bit, I think the disagreement stems
> not from the activities vs. profiles issue, but rather different
> expectations about what power management is and what it should do.
> People seem to be talking past each ot
On Sunday, 2011-10-02, Θεόφιλος Ιντζόγλου wrote:
> I'm trying to improve the karchive plugin of ark to have better support for
> zip files but unfortunately there are some things missing from the KZip
> class like support for encrypted archives and file deletion. Should I
> create patches for the K
On Sunday 02 October 2011 20:31:37 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> And that's now exactly the point: if you don't have any clue about what is
> happening your "I want to save power and not let the computer decide"
> might be much worse than what the computer would do.
No matter how many times I will quot
On Sunday 02 October 2011 19:57:33 Andras Mantia wrote:
> On Sunday, October 02, 2011 17:04:50 Martin Gr��lin wrote:
> > So please calmn down and lets focus on improving the user experience
> > by not spending too much time on too long� threads.
>
> I'm far from being upset or anything. I just gav
On Sunday 02 October 2011 21:09:00 Andras Mantia wrote:
> On Sunday, October 02, 2011 14:45:58 Dario Freddi wrote:
> > > That was one example. Another example brought up is e.g switching of
> > > strigi or nepomuk indexing when switching to a power saving profile.
> > > These two are something that
On Sunday 02 October 2011 20:09:00 Andras Mantia wrote:
> On Sunday, October 02, 2011 14:45:58 Dario Freddi wrote:
> > > That was one example. Another example brought up is e.g switching of
> > > strigi or nepomuk indexing when switching to a power saving profile.
> > > These two are something that
On Sunday, October 02, 2011 17:04:50 Martin Gr��lin wrote:
> So please calmn down and lets focus on improving the user experience
> by not spending too much time on too long� threads.
I'm far from being upset or anything. I just gave my opinion, which
seems to match others as well. We were *asked
On Sunday, October 02, 2011 14:45:58 Dario Freddi wrote:
> > That was one example. Another example brought up is e.g switching of
> > strigi or nepomuk indexing when switching to a power saving profile.
> > These two are something that usually kick in when you are in idle
> > mode, exactly when the
On Sunday 02 October 2011 20:03:47 Stefan Majewsky wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Dario Freddi wrote:
> > I still haven't found a "you're
> > right" after a thousand times I've been explaining the only real saver
> > you can configure is brightness, and this kinda concerns me.
>
> You a
On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Dario Freddi wrote:
> I still haven't found a "you're
> right" after a thousand times I've been explaining the only real saver you can
> configure is brightness, and this kinda concerns me.
You are indeed right. (Funny thing is that brightness is the single
point o
On Sunday 02 October 2011 19:51:11 Stefan Majewsky wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Dario Freddi wrote:
> > I will conclude the argument by saying that the
> > skepticals can now check out, in kde-workspace, my branch dafre/new-
> > powerdevil, which is implementing everything I said (new
On Sunday 02 October 2011 19:48:03 Michael Pyne wrote:
> Yes, actually. But if the movie player doesn't do this, why should we
> forbid the user from being able to easily do it?
Oh my god. People, you need to get your acts together and learn to read before
crazy-post. I stated a number of times
On Sunday 02 October 2011 19:35:15 Michael Pyne wrote:
> And look at it from the user perspective. The DE should be smart, but if
> the user decides that this one time he wants the computer to act as if
> the AC cord were plugged in even though it's not, and even though he
> normally wants somethi
On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Dario Freddi wrote:
> I will conclude the argument by saying that the
> skepticals can now check out, in kde-workspace, my branch dafre/new-
> powerdevil, which is implementing everything I said (new applet, new profile
> handling) except for activities, which hopef
On Sunday, October 02, 2011 12:26:14 Kevin Krammer wrote:
> On Sunday, 2011-10-02, Andreas Pakulat wrote:
> > Hmm, that means I have to learn about activities if I ever want to watch
> > a movie while I'm without ac...
>
> Shouldn't the movie player inhibit display replated saving functions in thi
On Sunday 02 October 2011 19:34:42 Andreas Pakulat wrote:
> That leaves out the use-case of not wanting to inhibit all aspects of
> the current power-save mode, but only a part by switching to a different
> mode that is similar but differs in one or two aspects. I can think for
> example for powers
On Sunday, October 02, 2011 19:34:42 Andreas Pakulat wrote:
> I can think for
> example for powersave-for-movie mode that dims display (because the
> movie is shown on a TV) but does not suspend to ram/disk or turn off
> monitors. Requiring people to create an activity for that even if thats
> the
On Sunday, October 02, 2011 11:07:29 Thomas Zander wrote:
> So the way I see activities is that you can map a lot of those settings that
> are frankly all over the place onto a real-world activity.
> Plasma added a nice user interface for it and things suddenly became more
> consistent.
This is gr
On 02.10.11 14:25:48, Dario Freddi wrote:
> On Sunday 02 October 2011 10:48:45 todd rme wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Thomas Zander wrote:
> > >> The part that I think is confusing is to make is so that one changes the
> > >> way power management works in some cases so that it's not
On Sunday 02 October 2011 17:04:50 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> On Saturday 01 October 2011 16:27:48 Dario Freddi wrote:
> > Hello all, and sorry for cross-posting.
> >
> > Hopefully, this solution will please everyone and will make activities
> > even more useful. Do you like it? More suggestions? Spe
On Saturday 01 October 2011 16:27:48 Dario Freddi wrote:
> Hello all, and sorry for cross-posting.
>
> Hopefully, this solution will please everyone and will make activities even
> more useful. Do you like it? More suggestions? Speak now or shut up forever!
Hi all,
I urge everyone to calm down ab
On Sunday 02 October 2011 16:33:05 Dario Freddi wrote:
> support for changing the CPU
> governor has been removed
... from all userspace tools. Sorry this bit didn't get in for any reason.
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On Sunday 02 October 2011 16:26:16 Markus Slopianka wrote:
> On Samstag 01 Oktober 2011 16:27:48 Dario Freddi wrote:
> > We focused on simplicity,
> > still without losing power-user features
>
> Quite frankly: What you describe sounds way more complicated. Don't see any
> simplicity in your propo
On Samstag 01 Oktober 2011 16:27:48 Dario Freddi wrote:
> We focused on simplicity,
> still without losing power-user features
Quite frankly: What you describe sounds way more complicated. Don't see any
simplicity in
your proposal. Instead since the introduction of Power Management / PowerDevil
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On Sunday 02 October 2011 15:04:35 Alberto Villa wrote:
> can you please just leave a notification for this? even if it doesn't
> trigger a profile change, it's very useful to know that the battery is
> going to die soon
Makes sense indeed
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I'm trying to improve the karchive plugin of ark to have better support for
zip files but unfortunately there are some things missing from the KZip class
like support for encrypted archives and file deletion. Should I create patches
for the KZip/KArchive classes or just subclass KZip class and d
after reading the full thread i think i'm ok with everything, but...
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Dario Freddi wrote:
> The first, important part: we plan to remove the "Warning" step
can you please just leave a notification for this? even if it doesn't
trigger a profile change, it's very use
On Sunday 02 October 2011 11:22:45 todd rme wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Thomas Zander wrote:
> >> I mean, the profile can be changed by switching Activities, so what is
> >> the technical reason it cannot be done by the user directly? The reason
> >> I'm concerned is that it takes co
On Sunday 02 October 2011 09:51:35 todd rme wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Dario Freddi wrote:
> > On Saturday 01 October 2011 21:30:02 Lukas wrote:
> >> Both are quite unusual but possible situations, but creating new
> >> activity and moving all files/settings does not pay off.
> >
>
On Sunday 02 October 2011 12:04:15 Andras Mantia wrote:
> On Saturday, October 01, 2011 23:13:06 Dario Freddi wrote:
> > > Is it? Certainly disabling desktop effects and 3D acceleration has
> > > an
> > > impact.
> >
> > Sorry to disappoint you, but this action will be removed in 4.8.
> > Martin h
On Sunday 02 October 2011 10:48:45 todd rme wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Thomas Zander wrote:
> >> The part that I think is confusing is to make is so that one changes the
> >> way power management works in some cases so that it's not in power
> >> management. It's going to confuse ap
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On Oct. 1, 2
> > > So I think there are more settings then display brightness (that
> > > you usually can control anyway with an Fn shortcut on laptops).
> >
> > Again, as I said before, I am pretty sure there are no settings except
> > brightness which require you to change to a different profile - in
> > fac
On Sunday, 2011-10-02, Andreas Pakulat wrote:
> Hmm, that means I have to learn about activities if I ever want to watch
> a movie while I'm without ac...
Shouldn't the movie player inhibit display replated saving functions in this
case?
(Assuming you meant playing a movie in full screen).
Chee
On Saturday, October 01, 2011 23:13:06 Dario Freddi wrote:
> > Is it? Certainly disabling desktop effects and 3D acceleration has
> > an
> > impact.
>
> Sorry to disappoint you, but this action will be removed in 4.8.
> Martin has explicitely stated that for how compositing in KDE works
> now turn
On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Thomas Zander wrote:
>> I mean, the profile can be changed by switching Activities, so what is the
>> technical reason it cannot be done by the user directly? The reason I'm
>> concerned is that it takes concepts (power management policy, current
>> Activity) which
> I mean, the profile can be changed by switching Activities, so what is the
> technical reason it cannot be done by the user directly? The reason I'm
> concerned is that it takes concepts (power management policy, current
> Activity) which, although related, are orthogonal and then artificially
>
On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Thomas Zander wrote:
>> The part that I think is confusing is to make is so that one changes the
>> way power management works in some cases so that it's not in power
>> management. It's going to confuse approximately everyone who cares that is
>> not a KDE devlope
On Sunday 2 October 2011 10:14:06 Andreas Pakulat wrote:
> Hmm, that means I have to learn about activities if I ever want to watch
> a movie while I'm without ac... I don't really like that, especially
> since I only do this seldomly and I don't use activities otherwise and
> hence always have to
> The part that I think is confusing is to make is so that one changes the
> way power management works in some cases so that it's not in power
> management. It's going to confuse approximately everyone who cares that is
> not a KDE devloper. It may be that few enough people care that aren't
> inv
On Saturday 01 October 2011 20:07:12 Stefan Majewsky wrote:
> Actually I'm confused by the concept of activities as a whole: On
> one hand, there are libraries now for reacting to activity switching.
> On the other hand, activities are said to include running
> applications, so apps will be closed
On 01.10.11 23:02:40, Dario Freddi wrote:
> On Saturday 01 October 2011 21:03:10 Andreas Pakulat wrote:
> > What happens if I don't use activities at all since they provide no use
> > for me? And whats also not clear to me: How can I get powermanagement
> > configured so it never dims down my scree
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Dario Freddi wrote:
> On Saturday 01 October 2011 21:30:02 Lukas wrote:
>> Both are quite unusual but possible situations, but creating new activity
>> and moving all files/settings does not pay off.
>
> But in both cases, you don't need a separate profile/mode. We
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