Re: The future of Power Management - together with Activities

2011-10-01 Thread Michael Pyne
On Saturday, October 01, 2011 23:02:40 Dario Freddi wrote: > In addition, you have a separate section where you can override some > settings based on which activity you are in. It's exactly like it is now, > except you can not MANUALLY change the profile (e.g. by using the applet) This is really t

Re: The future of Power Management - together with Activities

2011-10-01 Thread Dario Freddi
On Saturday 01 October 2011 23:41:42 Anders Lund wrote: > On Lørdag den 1. oktober 2011, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > I don't understand how creating a new activity represents an improvement > > to the user. If I understand the proposal correctly the user will only > > use the power manager to chan

Re: The future of Power Management - together with Activities

2011-10-01 Thread Dario Freddi
On Saturday 01 October 2011 23:33:22 Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Saturday, October 01, 2011 11:21:46 PM Dario Freddi wrote: > > On Saturday 01 October 2011 23:09:27 Scott Kitterman wrote: > > > I don't understand how creating a new activity represents an > > > improvement to the user. If I unders

Re: The future of Power Management - together with Activities

2011-10-01 Thread Anders Lund
On Lørdag den 1. oktober 2011, Scott Kitterman wrote: > I don't understand how creating a new activity represents an improvement > to the user. If I understand the proposal correctly the user will only > use the power manager to change existing profiles and if they want to > create an alternative

Re: The future of Power Management - together with Activities

2011-10-01 Thread Anders Lund
On Lørdag den 1. oktober 2011, Dario Freddi wrote: > Hello all, and sorry for cross-posting. > > Me and Bjorn have been discussing extensively about how to improve the > current situation with Power Management in KDE. We focused on simplicity, > still without losing power-user features. And we hav

Re: The future of Power Management - together with Activities

2011-10-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, October 01, 2011 11:21:46 PM Dario Freddi wrote: > On Saturday 01 October 2011 23:09:27 Scott Kitterman wrote: > > I don't understand how creating a new activity represents an improvement > > to the user. If I understand the proposal correctly the user will only > > use the power man

Re: The future of Power Management - together with Activities

2011-10-01 Thread Dario Freddi
On Saturday 01 October 2011 23:09:27 Scott Kitterman wrote: > I don't understand how creating a new activity represents an improvement > to the user. If I understand the proposal correctly the user will only > use the power manager to change existing profiles and if they want to > create an alter

Re: The future of Power Management - together with Activities

2011-10-01 Thread Dario Freddi
On Saturday 01 October 2011 21:30:02 Lukas wrote: > On 1 October 2011 21:36, wrote: > > > Something like having Power mode switch: > > > > > > [Performance] [Normal] [Battery stretch] > > > > > > where Normal is current static profile; Performance - temporary > > > disables any limitations; Batt

Re: The future of Power Management - together with Activities

2011-10-01 Thread Dario Freddi
On Saturday 01 October 2011 21:21:40 Andras Mantia wrote: > [Please reply on both lists if you cross-posted, otherwise dicussion will > be more fragmented. I just looked up the plasma list out of curiosity, > normally I don't follow, so your mail would have been missed.] > > Dario Freddi wrote: >

Re: Re: The future of Power Management - together with Activities

2011-10-01 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Saturday, October 01, 2011 09:54:52 PM Torgny Nyblom wrote: > On Saturday 01 October 2011 21.02.19 Dario Freddi wrote: > [...] > > > > Also please do not remove the possibility to change how a certain state > > > should look like. So far I've always changed the "on battery" profile. > > > > I

Re: The future of Power Management - together with Activities

2011-10-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, October 01, 2011 08:38:09 PM Dario Freddi wrote: > On Saturday 01 October 2011 20:07:12 Stefan Majewsky wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Andras Mantia wrote: > > > I can't comment on activities, never used them, nor feel the need to > > > use them. So this sounds more like t

Re: The future of Power Management - together with Activities

2011-10-01 Thread Dario Freddi
On Saturday 01 October 2011 21:03:10 Andreas Pakulat wrote: > What happens if I don't use activities at all since they provide no use > for me? And whats also not clear to me: How can I get powermanagement > configured so it never dims down my screen brightness (since thats > making the display use

Re: The case for a kdelibs 4.8

2011-10-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, October 01, 2011 08:27:02 AM Martin Gräßlin wrote: > On Saturday 01 October 2011 00:12:05 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > > Am Freitag, 30. September 2011, 10:07:27 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo: > > > will say "Platform 4.7, Plasma > > > > > > Workspaces 4.8 and application updates" (or som

Review Request: nepomuk/services/storage/datamanagementmodel.h fix to allow compiling on apple's gcc 4.2.1

2011-10-01 Thread Kurt Hindenburg
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/102753/ --- Review request for KDE Runtime. Description --- With this patch, nepo

Review Request: kfileplaceeditdialog too small

2011-10-01 Thread Greg T
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/102751/ --- Review request for kdelibs. Description --- Hi, this patch sets a min

Re: The future of Power Management - together with Activities

2011-10-01 Thread Torgny Nyblom
On Saturday 01 October 2011 21.02.19 Dario Freddi wrote: [...] > > Also please do not remove the possibility to change how a certain state > > should look like. So far I've always changed the "on battery" profile. > > I think there is a certain misunderstanding here. I have said the > possibility

Re: The future of Power Management - together with Activities

2011-10-01 Thread Andras Mantia
[Please reply on both lists if you cross-posted, otherwise dicussion will be more fragmented. I just looked up the plasma list out of curiosity, normally I don't follow, so your mail would have been missed.] Dario Freddi wrote: >> I can't comment on activities, never used them, nor feel the nee

Re: Review Request: Put an end to plugin statusbar icon leaks

2011-10-01 Thread Thomas Friedrichsmeier
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/101653/ --- (Updated Oct. 1, 2011, 7:14 p.m.) Review request for kdelibs. Summary (u

Re: The future of Power Management - together with Activities

2011-10-01 Thread Andreas Pakulat
On 01.10.11 16:27:48, Dario Freddi wrote: > Hello all, and sorry for cross-posting. > > Me and Bjorn have been discussing extensively about how to improve the > current > situation with Power Management in KDE. We focused on simplicity, still > without losing power-user features. And we have a

Re: The future of Power Management - together with Activities

2011-10-01 Thread Dario Freddi
On Saturday 01 October 2011 20:50:30 Torgny Nyblom wrote: > On Saturday 01 October 2011 20.33.06 Andras Mantia wrote: > > On Saturday, October 01, 2011 16:27:48 Dario Freddi wrote: > > > Hello all, and sorry for cross-posting. > > > > > > [...] > > > > I can't comment on activities, never used t

Re: The future of Power Management - together with Activities

2011-10-01 Thread Andras Mantia
On Saturday, October 01, 2011 14:43:24 Michael Pyne wrote: > I can say that on my laptop I've used the power management widget all > the� time, but the only times I've touched Activities has been > completely by accident, since I use the laptop for basically one > thing. So while Activities should

Re: The future of Power Management - together with Activities

2011-10-01 Thread Torgny Nyblom
On Saturday 01 October 2011 20.33.06 Andras Mantia wrote: > On Saturday, October 01, 2011 16:27:48 Dario Freddi wrote: > > Hello all, and sorry for cross-posting. > > > > [...] > > I can't comment on activities, never used them, nor feel the need to use > them. So this sounds more like the power

Re: The future of Power Management - together with Activities

2011-10-01 Thread Michael Pyne
On Saturday, October 01, 2011 16:27:48 Dario Freddi wrote: > Hopefully, this solution will please everyone and will make activities even > more useful. Do you like it? More suggestions? Speak now or shut up forever! I actually think I like the idea of allowing what Activity you're using at the ti

Re: The future of Power Management - together with Activities

2011-10-01 Thread Dario Freddi
On Saturday 01 October 2011 20:07:12 Stefan Majewsky wrote: > On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Andras Mantia wrote: > > I can't comment on activities, never used them, nor feel the need to use > > them. So this sounds more like the power management applet would force > > me to create and use activi

Re: The future of Power Management - together with Activities

2011-10-01 Thread Stefan Majewsky
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Andras Mantia wrote: > I can't comment on activities, never used them, nor feel the need to use > them. So this sounds more like the power management applet would force > me to create and use activites. +1. Actually I'm confused by the concept of activities as a wh

Re: The future of Power Management - together with Activities

2011-10-01 Thread Thomas Zander
On Saturday 01 October 2011 16.27.48 Dario Freddi wrote: > Suppose you want to have an activity named "Sleep", in which you watch a > movie, and the PC will shutdown after 90 mins of inactivity. In this case, > you would just specify to override the "Suspend Session" action. Or, you > want to hav

Re: The future of Power Management - together with Activities

2011-10-01 Thread Andras Mantia
On Saturday, October 01, 2011 16:27:48 Dario Freddi wrote: > Hello all, and sorry for cross-posting. > [...] I can't comment on activities, never used them, nor feel the need to use them. So this sounds more like the power management applet would force me to create and use activites. What I ca

Re: The future of Power Management - together with Activities

2011-10-01 Thread Marco Martin
On Saturday 01 October 2011, Dario Freddi wrote: > > this i guess would be a kind of "presentation mode"... > > would it still cover enough use cases? > > maybe together with activities could be enough, not 100% sure > > Well, covering all use cases is something I don't feel I can guarantee for >

Re: The future of Power Management - together with Activities

2011-10-01 Thread Jeremy Whiting
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Dario Freddi wrote: > On Saturday 01 October 2011 16:55:54 Marco Martin wrote: >> On Saturday 01 October 2011, Dario Freddi wrote: >> > Hello all, and sorry for cross-posting. >> > At the same time, the combobox for selecting a profile in the battery >> > applet wil

Re: The future of Power Management - together with Activities

2011-10-01 Thread Dario Freddi
On Saturday 01 October 2011 16:55:54 Marco Martin wrote: > On Saturday 01 October 2011, Dario Freddi wrote: > > Hello all, and sorry for cross-posting. > > At the same time, the combobox for selecting a profile in the battery > > applet will be removed. It will, although, be replaced by a toggle bu

Re: The future of Power Management - together with Activities

2011-10-01 Thread Marco Martin
On Saturday 01 October 2011, Dario Freddi wrote: > Hello all, and sorry for cross-posting. > At the same time, the combobox for selecting a profile in the battery > applet will be removed. It will, although, be replaced by a toggle button > for inhibition: by enabling/disabling it, power management

Re: The future of Power Management - together with Activities

2011-10-01 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Saturday 01 October 2011, Dario Freddi wrote: > Hello all, and sorry for cross-posting. > > Me and Bjorn have been discussing extensively about how to improve the > current situation with Power Management in KDE. We focused on simplicity, > still without losing power-user features. And we have

The future of Power Management - together with Activities

2011-10-01 Thread Dario Freddi
Hello all, and sorry for cross-posting. Me and Bjorn have been discussing extensively about how to improve the current situation with Power Management in KDE. We focused on simplicity, still without losing power-user features. And we have a plan I'd like to share and get some feedback on. The

Re: The case for a kdelibs 4.8

2011-10-01 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Saturday, 1 de October de 2011 12:58:01 Kevin Kofler wrote: > (And I know that Qt is also breaking the ABI. That's something I also can't > agree with, especially considering that Qt 4 was advertised as "the big ABI > break which will make new ABI breaks unnecessary for a very long time" and >

Re: The case for a kdelibs 4.8

2011-10-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
PPS: I wrote: > However, working with you is only possible if you are also interested in > working with us, which implies listening to our needs, concerns and > wishes. By closing down the branch where our current development is > necessarily focused on since that's what we will be shipping in the

Re: The case for a kdelibs 4.8

2011-10-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
PS: Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > the choice that packagers have is to actually work with us instead of > against us. We would very much love to work with you. In fact, this is why I submitted my patches to KDE ReviewBoard before even getting them into Rawhide. I really WANT these to be upstream. Fed

Re: The case for a kdelibs 4.8

2011-10-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > so some features will indeed have to wait .. and that's not a horrible > thing because it means that frameworks will get more developer attention > and the attention it is getting already will not be slowed even further by > having to deal with bringing over features from 4.

Re: Re: The case for a kdelibs 4.8

2011-10-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Martin Gräßlin wrote: > One of the main reasons for the rebranding was to realize that "KDE" is > not one product, but a community that produces multiple products among > them a desktop environment (Plasma). What you just try to tell us is that > the complete rebranding is nonsense and we should go

Re: The case for a kdelibs 4.8

2011-10-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Martin Gräßlin wrote: > Have you actually tried to get the fedora patches into the 3.5 branch? I > cannot remember any discussion about it on kcd... > > Even if upstream would say no to the feautures what is wrong with doing a > distro-3.5 branch so that at least all distros can have the same patc

Re: The case for a kdelibs 4.8

2011-10-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > the features that got into the 4.7 branch to date have been things that > were already worked on before the Frameworks decision was made. it's was > an odd cas were features had been worked on while 4.7 was frozen with the > expectation of a 4.8 ... and that left us with the

Re: Re: "gamer" mouse button shortcuts (LONG)

2011-10-01 Thread todd rme
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 8:21 AM, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > forgot to add kcd > --  Forwarded Message  -- > > Subject: Re: "gamer" mouse button shortcuts (LONG) > Date: Saturday 01 October 2011, 08:19:47 > From: Martin Gräßlin > To: Kwin, NET API, kwin styles API, kwin modules API >