Re: Review Request: Do not terminate threads

> On Aug. 21, 2011, 10:29 a.m., David Faure wrote: > > I think this patch is almost ready, but Dawit's comment seems right about > > an improvement that should be done to it: > > > > - Move all the preemptive lookup logic from the thread's run function to > > HostInfo::lookupHost. [No need to

Re: Git migration status (Was: Re: Where is kmix hidden?)

On Sunday 21 August 2011 23:13:30 George Goldberg wrote: > On 21 August 2011 14:05, Lukas Appelhans wrote: > > Hey! > > > > Cool... I see you go for a split up of kdenetwork (makes sense imo). > > Yup. Definitely. > > > The problem I see at the moment you have to build all applications > > toge

Re: kdeinit (was: Summary from Buildsystem BoF at Desktop Summit)

On Monday, 22 de August de 2011 00:07:54 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > kio and kparts, just like qstyles and some other plugin systems we have > are not really part of the os platform. as far as the user is > concerned, only the settings which govern network behavior, widget > looks, etc. and the url

Re: Git migration status (Was: Re: Where is kmix hidden?)

On 21 August 2011 14:05, Lukas Appelhans wrote: > Hey! > > Cool... I see you go for a split up of kdenetwork (makes sense imo). Yup. Definitely. > The problem I see at the moment you have to build all applications together in > kdenetwork, otherwise they fail to compile. So this is a first thing

Re: kdeinit (was: Summary from Buildsystem BoF at Desktop Summit)

On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 08:32:07PM +0200, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On Sunday, 21 de August de 2011 19:13:43 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > > Considering the audience and considering that KDE has more deployments > > > than GNOME, why can't it be the other way around? > > > > this is where we starte

Re: Review Request: Speed limit in ftp kio slave

> On Aug. 10, 2011, 1:07 p.m., David Faure wrote: > > kioslave/ftp/speedController.h, line 24 > > > > > > kde_file.h isn't used in this header -> move the #include to the .cpp > > file. > > Tushar Mehta wrote: >

Re: kdeinit

On Sunday, 21 de August de 2011 21:07:05 Alex Merry wrote: > On 21/08/11 15:23, John Layt wrote: > > So lets turn that on its head. Lets write a statement saying why we > > need a spec and what it needs to achieve. Mention we have an existing > > solution that would be a good starting point, but do

Re: Review Request: GSoC: Errors handling during file transfer.

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Re: systemd and KDE (was: Re: kdeinit)

On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Stefan Majewsky wrote: > Once I can get a current version of systemd to > compile on my machine, I will try to look into this, but of course > help is appreciated on all fronts. Feel free to drop by #systemd if you are having trouble with compiling / dependencies

Re: kdeinit (was: Summary from Buildsystem BoF at Desktop Summit)

On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On Sunday, 21 de August de 2011 10:19:26 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: >> > if we start from an all-privileged daemon like systemd. It's privilege >> > elevation that suffers. >> >> does the session systemd run privileged in the first place? >

Re: kdeinit (was: Summary from Buildsystem BoF at Desktop Summit)

>> > if we start from an all-privileged daemon like systemd. It's privilege >> > elevation that suffers. >> >> does the session systemd run privileged in the first place? > > I have no clue. I don't even know if there's a session systemd. > I'm not sure exactly how you people are planning to make

Re: kdeinit

On 21/08/11 15:23, John Layt wrote: So lets turn that on its head. Lets write a statement saying why we need a spec and what it needs to achieve. Mention we have an existing solution that would be a good starting point, but don't actually detail it. Then send that to xdg and Gnome and Unity and

Re: kdeinit (was: Summary from Buildsystem BoF at Desktop Summit)

On Sunday, 21 de August de 2011 19:13:43 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > Considering the audience and considering that KDE has more deployments > > than GNOME, why can't it be the other way around? > > this is where we started from. gnome is now serious about making a > complete platform. if they su

Re: kdeinit (was: Summary from Buildsystem BoF at Desktop Summit)

On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 06:15:53PM +0200, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On Sunday, 21 de August de 2011 17:30:39 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > if kde is ever going to have > > any globally significant market share (*), then as applications and > > possibly an alternative shell - on top of gnome os. > >

Re: Nepomuk and MySQL - Why?

On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On Sunday, 21 de August de 2011 17:28:36 Mark wrote: >> >> A bit about MongoDB. >> > >> > Irrelevant until someone writes a QtSql backend for it. >> >> which is not possible since the entire NoSQL principle doesn't fit SQL. >> Perhaps a "Qt

Re: kdeinit (was: Summary from Buildsystem BoF at Desktop Summit)

On Sunday, 21 de August de 2011 18:26:19 Chusslove Illich wrote: > Do you perhaps still have that benchmark code? Do you have (or know of) The code exists, but I don't have it. It's part of the QCharIterator work I did while at Nokia but never published, so I don't have rights to that code anymo

Re: Git migration status (Was: Re: Where is kmix hidden?)

Am Sonntag, 21. August 2011, 18:41:35 schrieb Lukas Appelhans: > On Sunday 21 August 2011 17:27:01 George Kiagiadakis wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Lukas Appelhans wrote: > > > Hey! > > > > > > Cool... I see you go for a split up of kdenetwork (makes sense imo). > > > > > > The pr

Re: Git migration status (Was: Re: Where is kmix hidden?)

On Sunday 21 August 2011 17:27:01 George Kiagiadakis wrote: > On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Lukas Appelhans wrote: > > Hey! > > > > Cool... I see you go for a split up of kdenetwork (makes sense imo). > > > > The problem I see at the moment you have to build all applications > > together in k

Re: kdeinit (was: Summary from Buildsystem BoF at Desktop Summit)

On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 06:26:19PM +0200, Chusslove Illich wrote: > Also, with library being native C++, can there be any problem with C > bindings? > once upon a time, there were (maybe still are, i dunno) more or less full c bindings for qt and kde, and they even served as a base for bindings to

Re: kdeinit (was: Summary from Buildsystem BoF at Desktop Summit)

> [: Thiago Macieira :] > I once wrote a benchmark comparing iterating over a QString to iterating > over a gchar UTF-8 string using glib functions to get each UCS-4 character > (ostensibly to prove that UTF-16 was better than UTF-8). The result was > clear: Qt code was much faster, over 10x, compa

Re: kdeinit (was: Summary from Buildsystem BoF at Desktop Summit)

On Sunday, 21 de August de 2011 17:30:39 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > That sounds very much like the GnomeOS idea... > > yes, it does. i'm fully sold on that idea. if kde is ever going to have > any globally significant market share (*), then as applications and > possibly an alternative shell -

Re: d-conf (was: kdeinit (was: Summary from Buildsystem BoF at Desktop Summit))

On Sunday, 21 de August de 2011 17:46:22 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > but maps become invalid when the underlying data changes. in fact, it > would seem that reads must be locked out while a write is in progress. By design it is. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.or

Re: Nepomuk and MySQL - Why?

On Sunday, 21 de August de 2011 17:28:36 Mark wrote: > >> A bit about MongoDB. > > > > Irrelevant until someone writes a QtSql backend for it. > > which is not possible since the entire NoSQL principle doesn't fit SQL. > Perhaps a "QtNoSQL" implementation ^_- That doesn't work. Akonadi is implem

systemd and KDE (was: Re: kdeinit)

On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 4:54 PM, John Layt wrote: > Ummm, Pulse Audio?  It completely broke sound under KDE.  It caused a lot of > users a lot of pain before Colin come along to fix it for us and for Gnome > users too.  I don't want to see a repeat of that, so figuring out how to get > Lennart to

Re: d-conf (was: kdeinit (was: Summary from Buildsystem BoF at Desktop Summit))

On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 05:23:14PM +0200, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On Sunday, 21 de August de 2011 16:40:32 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > > If there is, you return QString::fromRawData. > > > > uhm, no, you must make a deep copy, otherwise you get a time bomb. > > You can also use a QStringData w

Re: kdeinit (was: Summary from Buildsystem BoF at Desktop Summit)

On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 03:54:12PM +0100, John Layt wrote: > On Saturday 20 Aug 2011 10:14:20 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > and he's right. show me one case where the outcome of his low-level work > > did not meet kde requirements. > > Ummm, Pulse Audio? It completely broke sound under KDE. > it

Re: Nepomuk and MySQL - Why?

On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On Sunday, 21 de August de 2011 17:03:10 Mark wrote: >> Every time when i start a brand new KDE session with a new user i see >> some stuff passing by with MySQL.. Now i understand a database is >> needed for nepomuk but does it have to be

Re: Nepomuk and MySQL - Why?

On Sunday, 21 de August de 2011 17:03:10 Mark wrote: > Every time when i start a brand new KDE session with a new user i see > some stuff passing by with MySQL.. Now i understand a database is > needed for nepomuk but does it have to be a heavy weight one like > MySQL? It's not nepomuk, it's akona

Re: Nepomuk and MySQL - Why?

On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Ivan Cukic wrote: > Just a note - Nepomuk doesn't use MySQL. It uses Virtuoso. > > MySQL is used by Akonadi. > > Cheerio. > > p.s. Mongo seems nice, I'll have to check it out. > > > > -- > There are no such things as applied sciences, only applications of > science

Re: kdeinit (was: Summary from Buildsystem BoF at Desktop Summit)

On Sunday, 21 de August de 2011 16:40:32 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > If there is, you return QString::fromRawData. > > uhm, no, you must make a deep copy, otherwise you get a time bomb. > but yeah, no conversion, so pretty cheap. You can also use a QStringData with a regular refcount and just w

Re: Nepomuk and MySQL - Why?

Just a note - Nepomuk doesn't use MySQL. It uses Virtuoso. MySQL is used by Akonadi. Cheerio. p.s. Mongo seems nice, I'll have to check it out. -- There are no such things as applied sciences, only applications of science. -- Louis Pasteur

Nepomuk and MySQL - Why?

Hi, Every time when i start a brand new KDE session with a new user i see some stuff passing by with MySQL.. Now i understand a database is needed for nepomuk but does it have to be a heavy weight one like MySQL? MySQL is not only big in hdd footprint, it also loves to suck up memory. Some altern

Re: kdeinit (was: Summary from Buildsystem BoF at Desktop Summit)

On Sunday 21 August 2011 Aug, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 02:54:41PM +0200, Thiago Macieira wrote: > > On Sunday, 21 de August de 2011 12:25:52 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > > yes, when the faulty module crashes. not so when it deadlocks or > > > busy-loops. also, a restart

Re: kdeinit (was: Summary from Buildsystem BoF at Desktop Summit)

On Saturday 20 Aug 2011 10:14:20 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 08:00:19PM +0100, John Layt wrote: > > I've certainly seen him state that he doesn't care about KDE, that we are > > irrelevent to anything he does, and he sees no reason to collaborate on > > anything with us. >

Re: kdeinit (was: Summary from Buildsystem BoF at Desktop Summit)

On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 02:54:41PM +0200, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On Sunday, 21 de August de 2011 12:25:52 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > yes, when the faulty module crashes. not so when it deadlocks or > > busy-loops. also, a restart typically loses state. > > True, but I don't remember that happ

Re: Re: kdeinit (was: Summary from Buildsystem BoF at Desktop Summit)

A Diumenge, 21 d'agost de 2011, John Layt vàreu escriure: > On Saturday 20 Aug 2011 13:11:32 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 12:20:55PM +0200, Thiago Macieira wrote: > > > It needs a global spec too, since global shortcut grabbing with X11 > > > libs only is sorely lacking. I

Re: Git migration status (Was: Re: Where is kmix hidden?)

On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Lukas Appelhans wrote: > Hey! > > Cool... I see you go for a split up of kdenetwork (makes sense imo). > > The problem I see at the moment you have to build all applications together in > kdenetwork, otherwise they fail to compile. So this is a first thing which >

Re: kdeinit (was: Summary from Buildsystem BoF at Desktop Summit)

On Saturday 20 Aug 2011 13:11:32 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 12:20:55PM +0200, Thiago Macieira wrote: > > It needs a global spec too, since global shortcut grabbing with X11 libs > > only is sorely lacking. I think the solution we made for KDE 4 is > > actually quite good.

Re: Git migration status (Was: Re: Where is kmix hidden?)

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 9:27 PM, John Layt wrote: > The kde-wallpapers and kdeartwork modules are likely to remain in svn until > git handles binary blobs better.  Then there is also a lot of stuff still in > extragear and playground. This is an issue with kdegames as well: A complete source tree

Re: Git migration status (Was: Re: Where is kmix hidden?)

Hey! Cool... I see you go for a split up of kdenetwork (makes sense imo). The problem I see at the moment you have to build all applications together in kdenetwork, otherwise they fail to compile. So this is a first thing which needs to change. What is missing are tags and branches right? Luk

Re: kdeinit (was: Summary from Buildsystem BoF at Desktop Summit)

On Sunday, 21 de August de 2011 12:25:52 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > yes, when the faulty module crashes. not so when it deadlocks or > busy-loops. also, a restart typically loses state. True, but I don't remember that happening a single time to me in the past 3 years. I remember seeing people co

Re: Review Request: Only include nepomuk directories if nepomuk is available

> On Aug. 17, 2011, 1:19 p.m., Allen Winter wrote: > > Has this been committed? If so, please close this review; else please > > commit and close this review. > > > > Bjoern Ricks wrote: > Commit to trunk and/or 4.7? > > Allen Winter wrote: > Only master -- better not muck around with

Re: Git migration status (Was: Re: Where is kmix hidden?)

On 19 August 2011 22:18, Jeremy Whiting wrote: > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 1:27 PM, John Layt wrote: >> >> On Friday 19 Aug 2011 19:54:21 Harald Sitter wrote: >> > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Lukas Appelhans >> > wrote: >> > > I guess there were no efforts yet from the kdemultimedia team to m

Re: Review Request: Do not crash because a badly servicetype_profilerc is found

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Re: Review Request: Do not crash because a badly servicetype_profilerc is found

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Re: Review Request: Do not terminate threads

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Re: kdeinit (was: Summary from Buildsystem BoF at Desktop Summit)

On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 11:28:02AM +0200, Thiago Macieira wrote: > Sure, if each of 10 modules has a certain chance of failure or MTBF, the > whole > process has a much greater chance of failure or smaller MTBF. But if you look > from the point of view from the system that requires each of those

Re: Review Request: Do not crash because a badly servicetype_profilerc is found

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Re: Review Request: Don't hang when determining MIME type of corrupted files

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Re: kdeinit (was: Summary from Buildsystem BoF at Desktop Summit)

On Sunday, 21 de August de 2011 10:19:26 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > What instability? If kded crashes, what makes you think individual > > services > > won't crash, in addition to taking longer to load and use more memory? > > look at it from the perspective of the daemon, not the modules. > th

Re: kdeinit (was: Summary from Buildsystem BoF at Desktop Summit)

On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 02:43:49PM +0200, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On Saturday, 20 de August de 2011 14:11:32 Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > > yeah, at the cost of rather considerable instability. > > we should see whether regular service activation isn't the better > > option, now that we have it. >

Review Request: Determining MIME type of corrupted files hangs on repeated reads

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Review Request: GSoC: Errors handling during file transfer.

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Re: kdeinit

On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Valentin Rusu wrote: > On 08/20/2011 02:11 PM, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: >>> A cross-desktop specification, but we still use kwallet. There's no reason >>> to >>> dump it in favour of another implementation. So I see no arguments at all in >>> favour of dropping