On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> On Monday 25 July 2011 15:57:16 Ben Cooksley wrote:
>> >
>> >> Otherwise our users will be the ones who will suffer.
>> >
>> > I really doubt anyone is going to 'suffer'... This NamingClashCrisis is
>> > more
>>
>> They will. As an example,
> The only point that I would like to add is that the 'System' part of
> System Settings should be dropped since the settings listed there are
> not for the system but for the DE('s).
Well it depends, Networking Bluetooth, Service startup are not DE('s) stuff
On Monday 25 July 2011 15:57:16 Ben Cooksley wrote:
> >
> >> Otherwise our users will be the ones who will suffer.
> >
> > I really doubt anyone is going to 'suffer'... This NamingClashCrisis is more
>
> They will. As an example, KMyMoney users for instance depend on System
> Settings to be able t
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Friedrich W. H. Kossebau
wrote:
> Dimanche, le 24 juillet 2011, à 23:07, Ben Cooksley a écrit:
>> Dropping GNOME out of this, as it seems quite clear they aren't
>> interested in co-operating at all. Which is fairly typical for them,
>> they're insular and only ca
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 12:26 PM, marcel partap wrote:
>> KDE 4.7 will probably be shipped by distributions alongside GNOME 3.0.
>> A short term solution is required at the bare minimum to fix that -
>> which can be done as I noted.
>
> Where's the problem? Have the release tarballs already and ir
On 23 July 2011 15:20, Ambroz Bizjak wrote:
> Mark wrote:
>> Just a small suggestion on how i think this should be "fixed" (since 2
>> desktop files for one app seems just ugly to me).
>> Perhaps it's better to extend the desktop file specification:
>> http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-ent
Dimanche, le 24 juillet 2011, à 23:07, Ben Cooksley a écrit:
> Dropping GNOME out of this, as it seems quite clear they aren't
> interested in co-operating at all. Which is fairly typical for them,
> they're insular and only care for themselves.
This is quite insulting, I do not think many share y
KDE 4.7 will probably be shipped by distributions alongside GNOME 3.0.
A short term solution is required at the bare minimum to fix that -
which can be done as I noted.
Where's the problem? Have the release tarballs already and irrevocably
been forged and fed into some unstoppable mechanism?
O
On Sunday, 24 de July de 2011 14:51:34 Gary Greene wrote:
> On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:33 AM, Martin Koller wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > can anyone answer the case https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=277319 ,
> > please ?
> Honestly, I really wish that Mozilla/KDE/Google/Wget/ has their own root certificat
2011/7/25 Cornelius Schumacher :
> On Sunday 24 July 2011 Ben Cooksley wrote:
>> Dropping GNOME out of this, as it seems quite clear they aren't
>> interested in co-operating at all. Which is fairly typical for them,
>> they're insular and only care for themselves.
>
> I don't want to let a stateme
Still, we should treat each other with respect. [...]
being angry doesn't solve problems, especially not
when communication about a common solution is required. [...]
Not everything can be done easily, but we should look for the
right solutions and persue them.
There is no established mechanism t
On Sunday 24 July 2011 Ben Cooksley wrote:
> Dropping GNOME out of this, as it seems quite clear they aren't
> interested in co-operating at all. Which is fairly typical for them,
> they're insular and only care for themselves.
I don't want to let a statement like this stand as it is. There are a
On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:33 AM, Martin Koller wrote:
> Hi,
>
> can anyone answer the case https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=277319 ,
> please ?
>
> --
> Best regards/Schöne Grüße
>
> Martin
> A: Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion
> Q: Why is top posting bad?
>
> () ascii r
Dropping GNOME out of this, as it seems quite clear they aren't
interested in co-operating at all. Which is fairly typical for them,
they're insular and only care for themselves.
In any case, we need a short term solution to this. Basically, we are
going to have to provide a different name under G
Le 24/07/2011 17:11, Emmanuele Bassi a écrit :
> GTK+ applications use the XSETTINGS keys:
>
> http://standards.freedesktop.org/xsettings-spec/xsettings-spec-0.5.html
>
> so every key that is shared using that specification is picked up
> automatically by GTK+ applications.
>
> we can definitely
On Sunday 24 July 2011, Olav Vitters wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 01:38:34PM +0200, Martin Sandsmark wrote:
> > My two cent is that Gnome should rename it's configuration
> > application to something that reflects what it is, instead of
> > stealing the name from the KDE system configuration ap
Le 24 juil. 2011 14:35, "Aurélien Gâteau" a écrit :
> Le 24/07/2011 12:55, Giovanni Campagna a écrit :
>> Which is a KDE bug. You should use GNOME shortcuts when possible. I
>> mean, Gtk has emacs and Mac OS modes for keybindings, I doubt Qt hasn't
>> something similar.
>
>
>> It is true that you
hi;
2011/7/24 Aurélien Gâteau :
> What about the other way around BTW? Do GNOME applications running on a
> KDE workspace follow KDE keybindings, theme, palette, fonts and icon
> theme?
GTK+ applications use the XSETTINGS keys:
http://standards.freedesktop.org/xsettings-spec/xsettings-spec-0.5.h
hi;
On 24 July 2011 10:00, Ben Cooksley wrote:
>> the short-term fix is to make the KDE system settings OnlyShowIn=KDE,
>> so that users running KDE will not have any issue, and every other
>> desktop will correctly not show the KDE system settings shell.
>
> Wrong. Emmanuele, read my initial ema
On Sunday 24 July 2011 20:27:58 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> On Sunday 24 July 2011 14:12:21 Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
> > If there is no need for KDE System Settings on a Gnome desktop, then
> > adding a OnlyShowIn=KDE; key to the desktop file would be appropriate.
> > If on the other hand there is a need
On Sunday 24 July 2011 14:12:21 Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
> If there is no need for KDE System Settings on a Gnome desktop, then
> adding a OnlyShowIn=KDE; key to the desktop file would be appropriate.
> If on the other hand there is a need for KDE System Settings on a Gnome
> desktop, then Shaun solu
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 01:38:34PM +0200, Martin Sandsmark wrote:
> My two cent is that Gnome should rename it's configuration application to
> something that reflects what it is, instead of stealing the name from the KDE
> system configuration application.
I've already mentioned in the first re
Le 24/07/2011 12:55, Giovanni Campagna a écrit :
> Which is a KDE bug. You should use GNOME shortcuts when possible. I
> mean, Gtk has emacs and Mac OS modes for keybindings, I doubt Qt hasn't
> something similar.
> It is true that you can change KDE theme without changing the GTK one,
> but why
Le 24/07/2011 10:25, Emmanuele Bassi a écrit :
> hi;
>
> 2011/7/24 Aurélien Gâteau :
>> Most distributions split KDE packages so if you get a pre-installed
>> computer with Gnome and a few KDE applications installed, KDE System
>> Settings would not be installed.
>>
>> You are only likely to get b
On Sunday 24 July 2011 17:55:54 Giovanni Campagna wrote:
> Il giorno dom, 24/07/2011 alle 22.37 +1200, Ben Cooksley ha scritto:
> > Wrong, wrong and wrong.
> > Phonon backend cannot be configured without System Settings.
> And that's a feature, I suppose. As a GNOME user, I want GStreamer at
> all
Il giorno dom, 24/07/2011 alle 22.37 +1200, Ben Cooksley ha scritto:
> On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Giovanni Campagna
> wrote:
> > Il giorno dom, 24/07/2011 alle 21.00 +1200, Ben Cooksley ha scritto:
> >> 2011/7/24 Emmanuele Bassi :
> >> > hi;
> >> >
> >> > 2011/7/24 Aurélien Gâteau :
> >> >>
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Giovanni Campagna
wrote:
> Il giorno dom, 24/07/2011 alle 21.00 +1200, Ben Cooksley ha scritto:
>> 2011/7/24 Emmanuele Bassi :
>> > hi;
>> >
>> > 2011/7/24 Aurélien Gâteau :
>> >> Most distributions split KDE packages so if you get a pre-installed
>> >> computer w
Il giorno dom, 24/07/2011 alle 21.00 +1200, Ben Cooksley ha scritto:
> 2011/7/24 Emmanuele Bassi :
> > hi;
> >
> > 2011/7/24 Aurélien Gâteau :
> >> Most distributions split KDE packages so if you get a pre-installed
> >> computer with Gnome and a few KDE applications installed, KDE System
> >> Sett
At Sat, 23 Jul 2011 21:43:16 +0200,
Lorenz Quack wrote:
> So how can this be resolved?
…
> TLDR:
> For this release: GNOME back off
> For the next release: KDE and GNOME unify your settings infrastructure
> and pick non-generic names for your apps.
Why can’t the Gnome System Settings simply be sho
On Sunday 24 July 2011, Ben Cooksley wrote:
> 2011/7/24 Emmanuele Bassi :
> > hi;
> >
> > 2011/7/24 Aurélien Gâteau :
> >> Most distributions split KDE packages so if you get a pre-installed
> >> computer with Gnome and a few KDE applications installed, KDE System
> >> Settings would not be instal
2011/7/24 Emmanuele Bassi :
> hi;
>
> 2011/7/24 Aurélien Gâteau :
>> Most distributions split KDE packages so if you get a pre-installed
>> computer with Gnome and a few KDE applications installed, KDE System
>> Settings would not be installed.
>>
>> You are only likely to get both System Settings
hi;
2011/7/24 Aurélien Gâteau :
> Most distributions split KDE packages so if you get a pre-installed
> computer with Gnome and a few KDE applications installed, KDE System
> Settings would not be installed.
>
> You are only likely to get both System Settings pre-installed if your
> computer was s
Hi,
I am non-partisan user of both GNOME and KDE and wanted to add my my
humble two cents.
I belive that picking a generic name such as "System Settings" for such
a common place application and then claiming unique ownership of that
name is a bit brazen.
On the other hand now that we have th
Mark wrote:
> Just a small suggestion on how i think this should be "fixed" (since 2
> desktop files for one app seems just ugly to me).
> Perhaps it's better to extend the desktop file specification:
> http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ar01s05.html
>
> And i would propose
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