Re: Fixes in Git (first in stable, then merge to master)

2011-07-23 Thread Nicolas Alvarez
Nicolas Alvarez wrote: > - Figure out how to solve the scripty problem. scripty does its own > conflicting commits to .desktop files in both branches, and that won't > change[1]. We probably need a custom merge tool for .desktop-like files > that ignores translations. I *think* I managed to write

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name "System Settings" by GNOME

2011-07-23 Thread Steven Sroka
> Most distributions split KDE packages so if you get a pre-installed > computer with Gnome and a few KDE applications installed, KDE System > Settings would not be installed. > >You are only likely to get both System Settings pre-installed if your >computer was shipped with both KDE and Gnome desk

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name "System Settings" by GNOME

2011-07-23 Thread Aurélien Gâteau
Le 23/07/2011 12:33, Emmanuele Bassi a écrit : > On 2011-07-23 at 11:27, Dodji Seketeli wrote: >> Matthias Clasen a écrit: >> >>> I don't think Shauns proposal addresses the issue, really. >> >> Why? Do you have an example that would show where Shaun's proposal >> falls short? > > it falls short

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2011-07-23 Thread Martin Koller
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Re: Re: moving libkface and libkmap from kdereview to extragear/libs.

2011-07-23 Thread Albert Astals Cid
A Dimecres, 13 de juliol de 2011, Gilles Caulier vàreu escriure: > 2011/7/12 İsmail Dönmez > > > Hi; > > > > 2011/7/12 Alexander Neundorf > > > >> On Tuesday 12 July 2011, Gilles Caulier wrote: > >> > 2011/7/12 Alex Merry > >> > > >> > > On 12/07/11 08:06, Gilles Caulier wrote: > >> > >> It's f

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name "System Settings" by GNOME

2011-07-23 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, July 23, 2011 04:41:05 AM Ben Cooksley wrote: > Hi, > > I find what is proposed by Shaun to be acceptable, as the distinction > between the two is clearly defined. It still allows users to determine > the correct System Settings application to use to configure KDE > applications with

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name "System Settings" by GNOME

2011-07-23 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 4:41 AM, Ben Cooksley wrote: > @Matthias: please explain how this doesn't solve the issue. It certainly solves the immediate symptom of 'two things in the menu are named the same'.

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name "System Settings" by GNOME

2011-07-23 Thread Mark
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Dodji Seketeli wrote: > Emmanuele Bassi a écrit: > >> On 2011-07-23 at 11:27, Dodji Seketeli wrote: >>> Why?  Do you have an example that would show where Shaun's proposal >>> falls short? >> >> it falls short in showing: >> >>   System Settings >>   KDE System S

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name "System Settings" by GNOME

2011-07-23 Thread Dodji Seketeli
Emmanuele Bassi a écrit: > On 2011-07-23 at 11:27, Dodji Seketeli wrote: >> Why? Do you have an example that would show where Shaun's proposal >> falls short? > > it falls short in showing: > > System Settings > KDE System Settings > > under Gnome, and: > > System Settings > Gnome System

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name "System Settings" by GNOME

2011-07-23 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
On 2011-07-23 at 11:27, Dodji Seketeli wrote: > Matthias Clasen a écrit: > > > I don't think Shauns proposal addresses the issue, really. > > Why? Do you have an example that would show where Shaun's proposal > falls short? it falls short in showing: System Settings KDE System Settings u

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name "System Settings" by GNOME

2011-07-23 Thread Dodji Seketeli
Denis Washington a écrit: > Am 23.07.2011 11:54, schrieb Giovanni Campagna: >> Il giorno sab, 23/07/2011 alle 11.27 +0200, Dodji Seketeli ha scritto: >>> Matthias Clasen a écrit: >>> I don't think Shauns proposal addresses the issue, really. >>> >>> Why? Do you have an example that would s

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name "System Settings" by GNOME

2011-07-23 Thread Ben Cooksley
Hi, I find what is proposed by Shaun to be acceptable, as the distinction between the two is clearly defined. It still allows users to determine the correct System Settings application to use to configure KDE applications with what is probably the most minimal level of confusion. KDE System Setti

Re: Re: Re: Fixes in Git (first in stable, then merge to master)

2011-07-23 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Saturday 23 July 2011 19:28:53 Ben Cooksley wrote: > >> During the stable branch freeze before a minor version release (such as > >> currently before > > the 4.7 release), it isn't possible to commit bug fixes to stable first and > > then merge to master. > > Only master can be committed to,

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name "System Settings" by GNOME

2011-07-23 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > On 22 July 2011 17:17, Ben Cooksley wrote: > To be more specific about the problem, installing kde-workspace to a > GNOME installation results in 2 indistinguishable apps named System > Settings and 2 named System Monitor. On Ubuntu at least

Re: Re: Fixes in Git (first in stable, then merge to master)

2011-07-23 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > On Saturday 23 July 2011 01:42:16 David Jarvie wrote: >> On Saturday 23 July 2011 00:00:16 Nicolas Alvarez wrote: >> > There is no active policy saying you're supposed to merge. Almost everybody >> > in KDE is still doing cherry-picks. KDeve

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name "System Settings" by GNOME

2011-07-23 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Luca Ferretti wrote: > What about, instead, Shaun's proposal? It seems reasonable to me > (while I like to test it) and we could do the same in GNOME stuff > (while it's additional work for maintainers and tranlators). I don't think Shauns proposal addresses the

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name "System Settings" by GNOME

2011-07-23 Thread Sergey Udaltsov
> This is what happens when you mix and match bits and pieces from > different operating systems. There is really not much that can be done > about it. Since that is what both KDE and GNOME are trying to do: > build complete, self-contained systems. So far we are running the same OS (for most of us

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name "System Settings" by GNOME

2011-07-23 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 09:17:17AM +1200, Ben Cooksley wrote: > > > > Now lets go into something more productive and perhaps we can fix this > > before the sunny Desktop Summit. > > Hi Olav, > > In terms of being productive surrounding this, I have several questions: > > Screenshots on your live

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name "System Settings" by GNOME

2011-07-23 Thread Arx Cruz
Hello, Why not use Gnome System Settings and KDE System Settings instead? So this can be visible in both environments, and the user will know what he needs to change. Internally I believe both can keep System Settings. Using Gnome/KDE System Settings the user will know which one he want's to use.

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name "System Settings" by GNOME

2011-07-23 Thread Luca Ferretti
2011/7/23 Matthias Clasen : >> I'd like to suggest that the GNOME developers consider changing the >> public name of their app to "System Preferences." This matches the Mac >> OS X design and arguably GNOME follows some parts of OS X design. >> Furthermore, it is more in line with Gnome 2's System>

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name "System Settings" by GNOME

2011-07-23 Thread Niklas Hambüchen
On 23/07/11 00:25, Shaun McCance wrote: I very much doubt users will be any less confused when confronted with "System Settings" and "System Preferences". Especially as in other languages, there are not always two words for this (e.g. German). There's a very easy way to use a different appl

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name "System Settings" by GNOME

2011-07-23 Thread Shaun McCance
On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 17:53 -0400, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > On 22 July 2011 17:17, Ben Cooksley wrote: > >> > >> Now lets go into something more productive and perhaps we can fix this > >> before the sunny Desktop Summit. > > > > Hi Olav, > > > > In terms of being productive surrounding this, I have

Re: Formal complaint concerning the use of the name "System Settings" by GNOME

2011-07-23 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On 22 July 2011 17:17, Ben Cooksley wrote: >> >> Now lets go into something more productive and perhaps we can fix this >> before the sunny Desktop Summit. > > Hi Olav, > > In terms of being productive surrounding this, I have several questions: > > Screenshots on your live wiki indicate that GNOM