Re: [Interest] Semi-OT: What could / should Elop / Nokia have done differently?

2012-06-21 Thread Pau Garcia i Quiles
Hi, IMHO they should have released a Qtopia (Qt 4-based) phone 6 months after acquiring Trolltech, then keep developoing Maemo and replace Qtopia with Maemo only when Maemo would be ready. That would have given them a lot of Qt developers and a lot of applications and an operating system more powe

Re: [Interest] Qt on Windows Phone 8

2012-06-21 Thread Pau Garcia i Quiles
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 5:34 AM, wrote: >> "Windows Phone 8 offers native support for the C and C++ development >> languages. This will be a boon for developers. Microsoft also plans to offer >> a wide range of APIs that work between Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8, which >> is possible thanks

Re: [Interest] Semi-OT: What could / should Elop / Nokia have done differently?

2012-06-21 Thread Pritam
Hi I would have gone ahead with android for the short term because lot of people were/are looking to pickup android devices. Considering Nokia's strength in making phone that last and over a wide price range. They could have snatched a big share from Samsung. Samsung customer loyality is no whe

Re: [Interest] submit policy

2012-06-21 Thread Stefan
Hi all, I am still trying to figure this out. So far without much luck. Does anybody have a clue how this can be accomplished? I need something like a "timedelayed submit on valuechanged"-policy, while Qt only offers a manual and an auto submit policy for the DataWidgetMapper. Thanks for any i

Re: [Interest] Qt on Windows Phone 8

2012-06-21 Thread lorn.potter
On 22/06/2012, at 12:53 AM, ext Jason H wrote: > "Windows Phone 8 offers native support for the C and C++ development > languages. This will be a boon for developers. Microsoft also plans to offer > a wide range of APIs that work between Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8, which > is possible thank

Re: [Interest] Semi-OT: What could / should Elop / Nokia have done differently?

2012-06-21 Thread karl . ruetz
If I ran Nokia for a year I would analyze which mobile OS(s) is/are dominating the markets I want to penetrate. Obviously iOS is proprietary so unless I want to write Apps for iStuff I have to look at Android and Windows (mostly Android). It is possible that it would be best to make Android p

[Interest] Semi-OT: What could / should Elop / Nokia have done differently?

2012-06-21 Thread K. Frank
Hello List! Most of us have been following and talking about this whole Nokia / Microsoft thing. A couple of recent discussions on this list got me thinking about it again: [Interest] Is Nokia officially done with Qt? http://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/interest/2012-June/002454.html

Re: [Interest] Broken debugging after installing Creator 2.5

2012-06-21 Thread Alex Strickland
On 2012/06/21 08:39 PM, Till Oliver Knoll wrote: > With gcc/gdb you have the option to (re-)create debug info for a given Qt > installation (I think it has more to do with the debugger getting to know > about Qt data structures such as QString). I think in the panel where you > manage your avai

Re: [Interest] Broken debugging after installing Creator 2.5

2012-06-21 Thread André Pönitz
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 06:23:24PM +0200, Alex Strickland wrote: > Hi > > This is kind of non-specific, but maybe someone can help me without me > having to jump through hoops. > > Debugging was working fine with Creator 2.4 (cdb with MSVC), then > downloaded Creator 2.5 and debugging fails (do

Re: [Interest] Broken debugging after installing Creator 2.5

2012-06-21 Thread Till Oliver Knoll
Am 21.06.2012 um 18:23 schrieb Alex Strickland : > Debugging was working fine with Creator 2.4 (cdb with MSVC), then > downloaded Creator 2.5 and debugging fails (doesn't stop at a > breakpoint), go back to 2.4 and it's broken there now as well :( With gcc/gdb you have the option to (re-)crea

[Interest] Broken debugging after installing Creator 2.5

2012-06-21 Thread Alex Strickland
Hi This is kind of non-specific, but maybe someone can help me without me having to jump through hoops. Debugging was working fine with Creator 2.4 (cdb with MSVC), then downloaded Creator 2.5 and debugging fails (doesn't stop at a breakpoint), go back to 2.4 and it's broken there now as well

Re: [Interest] Qt on Windows Phone 8

2012-06-21 Thread Jason H
"Windows Phone 8 offers native support for the C and C++ development languages. This will be a boon for developers. Microsoft also plans to offer a wide range of APIs that work between Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8, which is possible thanks to the shared core." http://www.informationweek.com/ne

Re: [Interest] Qt on Windows Phone 8

2012-06-21 Thread Jason H
There was an experimental DirectX back-end at one point in time...(2006?) QPA to the rescue today? From: qtnext To: interest@qt-project.org Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [Interest] Qt on Windows Phone 8 if I understand  correctly ... a

Re: [Interest] Qt on Windows Phone 8

2012-06-21 Thread Jason H
As a embedded developer, I was always looking for that cross platform Nirvana. That's how I came on to Qt. But I remember back in 01 or 02, when the MS POSIX compliance was "getting there" that they threw it all out an invested .NET (largely due to a loss to Sun in court, something Google manage

Re: [Interest] Qt on Windows Phone 8

2012-06-21 Thread qtnext
if I understand correctly ... at this time : - Ios : QT5 qml can be port to ios regarding V8 - WP8 : Qml qt5 use opengl acceleration, WP8 will use only directx 11 .. perhaps angle lib is the solution ? Le 21/06/2012 14:33, Till Oliver Knoll a écrit : > 2012/6/21 Konstantin Tokarev : >> >> 21.0

Re: [Interest] Qt on Windows Phone 8

2012-06-21 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
21.06.2012, 18:05, "BRM" : > They also support ODF in Office, but in a way that is 100% incompatible with > everyone else (For example, All formulas are written to application specific > name spaces so any other application opening the file will not get formulas, > just values.) That's a pro

Re: [Interest] Qt on Windows Phone 8

2012-06-21 Thread BRM
> From: Harri Pasanen > Someone said that Microsoft does not like cross platform, but I don't > quite buy that  argument, as they are supporting stuff like PhoneGap, > HTML5, etc. Microsoft supports POSIX too, so what? Their POSIX API works only well enough to port applications; if you want p

Re: [Interest] Qt on Windows Phone 8

2012-06-21 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
21.06.2012, 17:44, "Atlant Schmidt" : >   Many folks mock the Apple "walled garden" approach, but >   so far, it has worked very well to prevent malicious apps >   from getting out to users or letting malicious external >   forces get malevolent code onto to the iDevices. Not only malicious but

Re: [Interest] Qt on Windows Phone 8

2012-06-21 Thread Atlant Schmidt
Typo: It's *NOT* just an "economic" reason. Apple does not want uninspected code to show up in the apps that have already been INSpected and okayed for use by the users. === -Original Message- From: interest-bounces+aschmidt=dekaresearch@qt-project.org [mailto:interest-b

Re: [Interest] Qt on Windows Phone 8

2012-06-21 Thread Atlant Schmidt
Oliver: > * Apple apparently /allows/ interpreters in apps, as long as your app > doesn't have the capability to download /external/ code to be > interpreted (as to circumvent the "In-App purchase" - again, an > "economical reason", not a "technical based one")! It's *NOT* just an "economic" re

Re: [Interest] Qt on Windows Phone 8

2012-06-21 Thread Till Oliver Knoll
2012/6/21 Konstantin Tokarev : > > > 21.06.2012, 15:05, "Till Oliver Knoll" : >> As for iOS, I've heard that "No JavaScript interpreter allowed" is a >> problem to properly port Qt/QML on the iPhone/iPad (that comes from >> the App Store rule that "No interpreter allowed" - not specifically >> Java

Re: [Interest] Qt on Windows Phone 8

2012-06-21 Thread Harri Pasanen
On 06/21/2012 01:29 PM, Konstantin Tokarev wrote: > > 21.06.2012, 15:05, "Till Oliver Knoll": >> As for iOS, I've heard that "No JavaScript interpreter allowed" is a >> problem to properly port Qt/QML on the iPhone/iPad (that comes from >> the App Store rule that "No interpreter allowed" - not spec

Re: [Interest] Qt on Windows Phone 8

2012-06-21 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
21.06.2012, 15:05, "Till Oliver Knoll" : > As for iOS, I've heard that "No JavaScript interpreter allowed" is a > problem to properly port Qt/QML on the iPhone/iPad (that comes from > the App Store rule that "No interpreter allowed" - not specifically > JavaScript). However, Lua interpreter is a

Re: [Interest] Qt on Windows Phone 8

2012-06-21 Thread Till Oliver Knoll
2012/6/21 : > ... > So the developer can write the application with C++/XAML, C#/XAML, JS/HTML5, > then how about the C++/QML pair? It seems to be similar with C++/XAML... On desktops you can develop using C or Java. Or C++. Or Pascal. Or C#. Or Eiffel. What about Pythong? Yes, works out, too...

Re: [Interest] Qt on Windows Phone 8

2012-06-21 Thread Harri Pasanen
On 06/21/2012 11:12 AM, song.7@nokia.com wrote: > So the developer can write the application with C++/XAML, C#/XAML, JS/HTML5, > then how about the C++/QML pair? It seems to be similar with C++/XAML... > Personally, I don't like this duplication... To me XAML looks more like Qt .ui files. >

Re: [Interest] Qt on Windows Phone 8

2012-06-21 Thread Pau Garcia i Quiles
Hi, It should be possible to implement everything based on the Windows Runtime C++ Template Library (WRL), no need for C++/CX or anything like that. On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Stanislav Kolář wrote: > Hello, > > probably no. C++ API for WP8 is Windows Runtime which has nothing to do with

Re: [Interest] Qt on Windows Phone 8

2012-06-21 Thread song.7.liu
> as they are supporting stuff like PhoneGap, HTML5, etc. They are supporting different Game middleware, but HTML5 is just another application type. So the developer can write the application with C++/XAML, C#/XAML, JS/HTML5, then how about the C++/QML pair? It seems to be similar with C++/XAML.

Re: [Interest] Qt on Windows Phone 8

2012-06-21 Thread Harri Pasanen
Indeed, and as I wrote before it would be logical for Nokia to officially support Qt on Windows 8. Otherwise they are truly throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Someone said that Microsoft does not like cross platform, but I don't quite buy that argument, as they are supporting stuff li

Re: [Interest] loading PPM solved

2012-06-21 Thread Waitman Gobble
> statusBar()->showMessage( > tr("puf (%1) ") > .arg(pm.width()+","+pm.height())); I now see my mistake, it should be tr("%1,%2").arg(pm.width()).arg(pm.height()) I think the other way I did it, it's using the char of the int value, and the PPM's are much

Re: [Interest] Using QTabWidget to select model instance to display in QTableView

2012-06-21 Thread Bo Thorsen
Hi Carl, Den 20-06-2012 20:30, Carl Schumann skrev: > I would like to use a QTabWidget to allow user selection of the model > currently displayed in a single QTableView instance. I want to do this > because the models have different data but their presentation should be > uniform, e.g., width of

Re: [Interest] how to develop the html5 game application(web application) based on Qt

2012-06-21 Thread CarelessChaser
You may also be interested technology Websockets. In games it will be very useful. I have some implementation of WebSockets' server on Qt. You also might google "libwebsockets" and "QtWebsockets"___ Interest mailing list Interest@qt-project.org http://l

Re: [Interest] Qt on Windows Phone 8

2012-06-21 Thread Stanislav Kolář
Hello, probably no. C++ API for WP8 is Windows Runtime which has nothing to do with Win32 API, so without a massive refactoring it will not be possible to port Qt for WP8. Little hope is Lighthouse... SK From: interest-bounces+skolar=kerio@qt-project.org [mailto:interest-bounces+skolar=k

Re: [Interest] Qt on Windows Phone 8

2012-06-21 Thread Turunen Tuukka
Based on the announcement yesterday that seems to be technically feasible, and possibly quite straightforward task to create the needed items to run Qt nicely in WP8. Definite answer depends on how that platform actually becomes, how are the rules for delivery (app stores etc) and finding the