Re: [Int-area] WG adoption call: Availability of Information in Criminal Investigations Involving Large-Scale IP Address Sharing Technologies

2018-04-22 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Brian, The issue discussed in this I-D applies each time you have to share an IPv4 address. This covers IPv4 service continuity mechanism with IPv6-only connectivity such as: NAT64, DS-Lite, MAP-E, MAP-T and lw4o6. There is IMHO a value in socializing the IETF BCP and help servers/impleme

Re: [Int-area] WG adoption call: Availability of Information in Criminal Investigations Involving Large-Scale IP Address Sharing Technologies

2018-04-22 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi Stephen, The scope of this document is aligned with what the IETF has published in the past in this field. A list is provided below: 1. Identify logging as an issue in address sharing: RFC 6269 2. Require address sharing to enable a logging function: RFC 6269 and RFC 6888

Re: [Int-area] WG adoption call: Availability of Information in Criminal Investigations Involving Large-Scale IP Address Sharing Technologies

2018-04-22 Thread Amelia Andersdotter
On 2018-04-22 22:36, Amelia Andersdotter wrote: > > that have been considered in the IETF. > + since December 2016. Typical. -- Amelia Andersdotter Technical Consultant, Digital Programme ARTICLE19 www.article19.org PGP: 3D5D B6CA B852 B988 055A 6A6F FEF1 C294 B4E8 0B55 __

Re: [Int-area] WG adoption call: Availability of Information in Criminal Investigations Involving Large-Scale IP Address Sharing Technologies

2018-04-22 Thread Amelia Andersdotter
Dear all, I have read this draft and I do not support adoption. On 2018-04-22 21:18, Dave O'Reilly wrote: > Dear all, > > I hope it’s not inappropriate for me to step into this discussion, but I > would like to respond to a few of the points that have been raised so far. > For brevity I will in

Re: [Int-area] WG adoption call: Availability of Information in Criminal Investigations Involving Large-Scale IP Address Sharing Technologies

2018-04-22 Thread Tom Herbert
On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 12:18 PM, Dave O'Reilly wrote: > Dear all, > > I hope it’s not inappropriate for me to step into this discussion, but I > would like to respond to a few of the points that have been raised so far. > For brevity I will incorporate my responses to the various emails into a

Re: [Int-area] WG adoption call: Availability of Information in Criminal Investigations Involving Large-Scale IP Address Sharing Technologies

2018-04-22 Thread Dave O'Reilly
Dear all, I hope it’s not inappropriate for me to step into this discussion, but I would like to respond to a few of the points that have been raised so far. For brevity I will incorporate my responses to the various emails into a single email. The main point people are making: ———

Re: [Int-area] WG adoption call: Availability of Information in Criminal Investigations Involving Large-Scale IP Address Sharing Technologies

2018-04-22 Thread Ted Lemon
FWIW I think both Brian and Stephen have raised good points here. I don't mean to say that there isn't a problem here, but I don't think it's really the right match for the IETF in general or for IntArea in particular to be publishing a document on how to facilitate monitoring on legacy networ

Re: [Int-area] WG adoption call: Availability of Information in Criminal Investigations Involving Large-Scale IP Address Sharing Technologies

2018-04-22 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hi Brian, On 22/04/18 06:31, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > However, WG adoption doesn't imply accepting the contents, only > the topic. Actually it transforms the authors from independent actors > into servants of the WG. So from a formal viewpoint Stephen is wrong: > the WG can decide to completely