On Sat, May 19, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Stephen Ingram wrote:
> On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Bron Gondwana wrote:
> > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 09:51:38AM -0700, Stephen Ingram wrote:
> >> I'm running 2.4.13 from the invoca rpms on CentOS 5.8. I recently had
> >
>
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 12:56:44PM -0700, Stephen Ingram wrote:
> Wow, thanks! I didn't know about that command. It exposed them!
> Strange, they were in /var/spool/imap/u/DELETED/ (my mailbox root is
> /var/spool/imap). I'm not sure why they wouldn't be in
> /var/spool/imap/j/user/jmaxwell (jmaxwe
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 02:02:53PM -0700, Stephen Ingram wrote:
> BTW, I love 2.4. I've been using now for several months and it is such
> a HUGE improvement from 2.3. Everything is faster, replication works
> better, it's like a whole new program!
Just wait until you get 2.5 :) There's still lot
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 05:15:22PM +0100, Jeroen van Meeuwen (Kolab Systems)
wrote:
> Hello there,
>
> With many thanks to Дилян Палаузов , we would like
> to let you know about one particular feature now definitely included for a
> pending Cyrus IMAP 2.5 release.
>
> As a feature for the upco
client you choose to use.
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list unless you're a CMU user, but still )
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On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 02:56:06PM -0400, Tom Plancon wrote:
> On 5/18/2012 4:45 PM, Bron Gondwana wrote:
> >On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 10:23:53AM -0400, Tom Plancon wrote:
> >>Hello,
> >>I'm not sure this is the list to post my issue but thought I'd give
> &g
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 12:03:31PM -0700, Andrew Morgan wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012, Jeroen van Meeuwen (Kolab Systems) wrote:
>
> > The canonical build process we think applies, generally speaking, is:
> >
> > $ autoreconf -v
> > $ ./configure [your-options]
> > $ make
> >
> > This process cu
than having multiple competing notification systems.
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On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:37:37AM -0400, Tom Plancon wrote:
> On 5/21/2012 4:55 PM, Bron Gondwana wrote:
> >On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 02:56:06PM -0400, Tom Plancon wrote:
> >>On 5/18/2012 4:45 PM, Bron Gondwana wrote:
> >>>On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 10:23:53AM -0400,
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:45:44AM -0400, Tom Plancon wrote:
> On 5/23/2012 11:01 AM, Bron Gondwana wrote:
> >On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:37:37AM -0400, Tom Plancon wrote:
> >>On 5/21/2012 4:55 PM, Bron Gondwana wrote:
> >>>On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 02:56:06PM -0400, To
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 02:53:19PM -0400, Tom Plancon wrote:
> Thank you for your patience with this! It is really appreciated!
>
> After stumbling through the telnet/IMAP syntax I finally got in, a
> good learning experience!
Cool.
> The output of the SELECT for the user who is having the bigge
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 10:23:20AM -0400, Tom Plancon wrote:
> Wow! That explains a lot! The user currently has about 40 tags she
> made to organize her email for current projects, and she has been
> using this practice for over 3 years!
It's a pity this isn't working, because it really is a good
lid mailbox name
Yeah, you can't create subfolders of "INBOX" in altnamespace.
Any other name should be fine, but if you LIST INBOX you will see
it has the \NoInferiors flag.
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orkaround:
suppress_capabilities: COMPRESS=DEFLATE
Is this every time, or just sometimes? It looks like there's a bug in the zlib
usage somewhere along the line.
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- I
would expect to be seeing user/nipsy/utexas/laitsadmin/l...@bitgnome.net or
bitgnome.net!user.nipsy.utexas.laitsadmin.lw
It's more likely that this configuration is buggy, since we don't run unixhs at
FastMail, so I haven't used it as much.
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On Mon, Jul 16, 2012, at 04:38 PM, Mark Nipper wrote:
> On 16 Jul 2012, Bron Gondwana wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 16, 2012, at 01:29 PM, Mark Nipper wrote:
> > > Jul 16 04:03:14 king cyrus/lmtpunix[17822]: Delivered:
> > > <201207160902.q6g925fu018...@topca
rantee cyr_expire will run
with sensible options, so the code has to have some sort of sanity check.
I guess it COULD just trigger a syslog, but then the sites not doing cyr_expire
probably aren't reading syslog either :(
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quick because it uses the GUID field rather than stat on the underlying
files.
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o normative implementation, and the examples
> from the RFC would overrule the ABNF.
Agree, have made P1.
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27;ll load into just about
anything. They're just single rfc822 files.
I have actually opened a bug for renaming them to end with .eml in Cyrus.
Annoyingly hard to patch in later though :(
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attributed, then it uses the cyrus.index
item. This means that switching too/from SHAREDSEEN is invisible to the owner
of the mailbox, they have the same flags either way :)
It's a special case - but it's a special case that saves a lot of IO for 99% of
users, so it's a good sp
reading them by name, or just the same inode?
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On Tue, Aug 14, 2012, at 01:22 PM, Eric Luyten wrote:
> On Tue, August 14, 2012 1:06 pm, Bron Gondwana wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 14, 2012, at 11:07 AM, Eric Luyten wrote:
> >
> >> All,
> >>
> >>
> >> Using dtrace on Solaris 10 I was having a look
efficient.
>
> Is there a better way ?
Are you seeing performance problems, or are you creating yourself makework?
There is the userdeny database, but the nginx approach works well and scales.
That's what we use at FastMail.
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e it in the cyrus init script:
Us too. We run 400+ instances, so init script is magic perl, and it does ulimit
before launching master.
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to share
with me? I can have a look at the actual data structures that way :)
Also - what does syslog say?
Thanks,
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On Fri, Aug 24, 2012, at 10:06 PM, Geoff Adams wrote:
> On Aug 24, 2012, at 5:40 AM, Bron Gondwana wrote:
>
> > Do you have a cyrus.index which has this issue which you're willing to
> > share with me? I can have a look at the actual data structures that way :)
>
&
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012, at 10:26 PM, Geoff Adams wrote:
> On Aug 24, 2012, at 1:17 PM, Bron Gondwana wrote:
>
> > Can I please have a copy of your imapd.conf as well.
> >
> > I _suspect_ at this stage that it's locking problems.
>
> That does seem likely.
m still curious what corrupt state that mailbox was in, and how it got
> there. It seems related to the 2.3.x -> 2.4.x upgrade, since that's the line
> beyond which new messages disappear.
Me too. There wasn't anything from the cyrus.index files to suggest corruption.
Bron.
tter way.
No, I think that's pretty good. That's what we do as a last-ditch repair
mechanism too.
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ere just a couple of little things that were making 2.5
unusable for people with murder or unixheirarchysep: yes, or... things
which we don't use.
I have also backported a couple of things to 2.4 though, so we should
get one or two more stable 2.4 series releases for those who wa
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012, at 01:42 PM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-09-24 at 23:05 +0200, Bron Gondwana wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 24, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Deniss Gaplevsky wrote:
> > > hello,
> > > i have a question to Brong as main powering force of cyrus develop
p";
print "link error $tmpfile\n" unless link($srcname, $tmpfile);
chown($uid, $gid, $tmpfile);
chmod(0600, $tmpfile);
print "rename error $file\n" unless rename($tmpfile, $file);
}
I suspect your fixup is similar :)
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t it removed (probably by mistake) then no :(
> Is it possible to manually change "mailbox id" to random value ? what
> side effects may arise ?
It would require a reconstruct afterwards, because the header gets
a checksum check now.
I suspect you will lose all flags on the on
xes, whereas "reconstruct -r" does 'em
> all, also the already-converted.
cyr_expire touches all the mailboxes in order...
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the git repository now, and will be in Cyrus 2.5 when it's
ready for release. They still don't work with murder, but I'm looking
into that. Of course, it would need some form of "autocreatebackend"
option with murder...
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On Wed, Oct 3, 2012, at 11:50 PM, mailing list subscriber wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Bron Gondwana wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012, at 07:22 AM, Simon Walter wrote:
> >> On 10/03/2012 01:32 PM, Andrew Morgan wrote:
> >> > If I remember right, the auto
gt; setup, but I'm not sure if 2.3.16 is also to old for stable
> replication. :/
It's not hard to compile yourself :)
Otherwise, 2.3.16 is quite stable and replication is good. We ran it
for over a year with just a few patches, none of them stability
related.
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On Thu, Oct 25, 2012, at 08:20 PM, Robert Linden wrote:
> My expectation was, that then all users would see the same seen-flag
> that the mailbox owner sees, i.e. all messages would be "seen" for everyone,
> because they have all been seen by the owner.
Sorry, in 2.3 the "shared" seen flag is stor
te files during
startup.
That said - it's interesting that you get so many processes crashing. Do
you have any syslog entries from immediately before the crash?
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On Tue, Nov 13, 2012, at 01:43 AM, Dmitry Katsubo wrote:
> On 27.10.2012 1:50, Dmitry Katsubo wrote:
> > Dear Cyrus developers,
> >
> > I am experiencing segfaults for cyrus-imapd v2.4.16 in my environment:
> >
> > Aug 29 11:51:35 ctl_cyrusdb[3713]: segfault at 0 ip b7255d76 sp bfdff308
> > erro
, you'd have to be somewhat insane and/or an experienced Cyrus
programmer to want to run our fastmail branch yourself. Unlike the stuff that
goes back to master, we really don't care if it works for any configuration
other than the one we are running.
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> r = lock_shared(mailbox->index_fd);
>
> lock files are stored in tmpfs
>
>
> what is the problem may be here ?
Smells like cyr_expire is running. Do you get cyr_expire log entries around
the same time? It needs an exclusive lock while it repacks
have the .seen files in the right place before starting 2.4,
then any indexes upgraded before the .seen files exist will not have any
seen flags set. Further, Cyrus will never check the .seen file again for
those mailboxes.
So - get your seen files in place with the right permissions first. Just
upgrading
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012, at 09:59 PM, Chris Conn wrote:
> On 2012-11-15 15:51, Bron Gondwana wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 15, 2012, at 09:46 PM, Chris Conn wrote:
> >> On 2012-11-15 15:34, Dan White wrote:
> >>> On 11/15/12 11:59 +1100, Puthick Hok wrote:
> >>>&
shows as deleted and then upon refresh it's back again. Everything else
> in that mailbox works as expected and out of a dozen other mailbox
> there are no issues.
> Does anyone have any ideas on this?
What does syslog say?
What version of Cyrus?
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ently. Did some client switch to using BINARY APPEND?
Definitely a bug!
I'm in the process of moving country this week, so I'm only online
sporadically...
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On Wed, Nov 21, 2012, at 05:31 PM, Egoitz Aurrekoetxea Aurre wrote:
> Good morning,
>
> Does Cyrus IMAP 2.3.18 get still supported by Cyrus IMAP team?.
Just security updates really, why?
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On Wed, Nov 21, 2012, at 08:12 PM, k...@rice.edu wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 01:51:28PM -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> > On Wed, 2012-11-21 at 18:21 +0100, Bron Gondwana wrote:
> > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2012, at 05:31 PM, Egoitz Aurrekoetxea Aurre wrote:
> > > &
with "dot" in them ?
Can I enable more verbose sieve execution logs ?
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I've always applied them!
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problem is that the mailboxes.db contents format is unchanged, but
if you have mailboxes.db itself as a Berkeley DB file, and your Cyrus is
compiled against a different version of Berkeley, then that could cause
problems.
I think following the HOWTO as you plan is the best solution in your
circumst
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> Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 10:18:29 +0100
> From: Bron Gondwana
> Subject: Re: Need your urgent advice
>To: an...@isac.gov.in, Dan White
>
at berkeley DB file are you running cvt_cyrusdb on?
It this happens frequently, it's a clear sign that something is wrong because
cvt_cyrusdb should not be running. If it happened only once, then it's
probably not a problem.
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> "squatter[39517]: error opening looking up *: Mailbox does not exist"
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On Sun, Dec 9, 2012, at 07:55 PM, Patrick Boutilier wrote:
> On 12/09/2012 11:26 AM, Bron Gondwana wrote:
> > Please file a bug in bugzilla. It looks not too hard to fix. Will check
> > more when I'm not on a phone.
> https://bugzilla.cyrusimap.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3757
Ye
o the new folder, but gets a error message.
> In thunderbird I can subscribe to the new folder with the subscribe
> menu, using our webmail client, I have to logout and login again. After
> that, the folder is subscribed.
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per storage.
Kind of. It does work, but it's not ideal. You need to move each created
folders separately.
There's a feature request for doing layered storage:
https://bugzilla.cyrusimap.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3384
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espace (shared folders in root
> namespace): I only see the top two levels of subscribed mailboxen. Subscribed
> folders under INBOX and under other users' mailboxen (in the "user" hierarchy)
> are all visible, the bug only appears with shared folders. I haven't test
stall and do that so we can get some function names
associated with those addresses.
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t, and the
other of which is the whole LIST-EXTENDED / SPECIAL-USE / mboxlist
format issue.
Hopefully I can talk to Greg about those next week when he's back in
the office, and we can get the couple of other fixes he's had sitting
around into the tree.
Then it's just docum
preference.
So it's true we don't msync, but I don't believe it's a bug, because we
aren't writing via mmap.
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intermediate code.
Of course - I can't do that if a bunch of you are already using it - so speak
now (in the next week or so) or forever deal with your specialuse fields going
away on upgrade.
(converting from 2.4 xlist_foo: config options is always going to be messy, but
that's a
er/username
/var/spool/imap/f/user/foo
But the hashing is never the other way around. For domains it is
/var/spool/imap/domain/d/domain.com/f/user/foo/
(no, it's not entirely sane - but that's how it is)
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the code better about reporting the
cause of the error. I suspect 99% probability file permissions
problems (your 'cyrus' user can't read it, but can stat it) and
1% probability a corrupt filesystem with that file contents
being unreadable. It's probably the very first fread
nters for this one?
That was true of Cyrus 2.3. Cyrus 2.4 has MODSEQ enabled for all mailboxes.
You can't even turn it off! It's embedded into all sorts of logic now.
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= 1", since clients do that. Then it will only
happen if you reconnect after a week and the expunged messages have been
expired.
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eating the directory
$confdir/log/$username (i.e. /var/imap/log/brong - I think, it's a while since
I did any distro-standard work) and making sure that the directory is owned by
user 'cyrus'. It also only works for NEW connections, so you'll need to create
a new connection
> desired.
That would be very helpful - along with the exact version you're using.
The backtrace is even better of course, but even telemetry and syslog
will help a lot :)
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internal structure even more, so people
see:
domain.com!user.username.subfolder
But that will probably cause massive pain to clients.
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handle leakage, or leakage of some other finite resource
in the mysql library.
> Any hint what may occur?
Ken - any ideas? You know this code better than I do.
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> > Can you please file this on bugzilla and assign it to me. I'll try to
> > build a
> > testcase. You might need to build your own Cyrus to get it fixed
gt; Individual users may not be assigned any quota
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Should it be something that Cyrus
> handles better, or should be something that Postfix repairs or rejects?
Probably both, but the Cyrus part is my problem.
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lbox gets changed on the master it will
notice that both ends have had changes, and do a full sync - which is pretty
good at merging the changes. It's not perfect though. Main failure points are
delete vs create of mailboxes, annotations, sieve, subscriptions... the things
which aren'
from the
master, but if you delete them - it assumes that the other end was
the master and you did a forced failover, so it applies the delete.
Basically, it's a partial master<->master. If you went in with an
IMAP client and explicitly deleted a message, that's assumed to mea
:53 MyClient sync_client[74031]: Processing sync log file
> > /var/imap/sync/log-74031 failed: Bad protocol
> > ...
> >
> >
> > What does it mean and how can I solve it?
> >
> >
>
>
> Has anyone a clue? Replication needs to be really reliable. Otherwise it
> makes no sense to use it.
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1Tb partitions.
There's also a separate 3-drive RAID 1e (3Tb storage striped over 3 disks)
with search data, using yet another set of patches which integrate the Xapian
search engine into our Cyrus system for fast full-text searches.
I've nearly fin
27;s more there to stop temporary files causing IO until they
do get an fsync - in case they are never kept.
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ata in, and had
massive corruption on the filesystems, to the point where one wouldn't mount.
So I remain sceptical of XFS. It seems to have promised the world and
underdelivered for a while now.
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with bugzilla and spend a couple of days just replying
to bugs and integrating the patches.
Thanks for your work, and apologies for the delay responding,
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murder safer
Bug #3603 - tidied up usage of kick_mupdate so it never gets called on
standard murder backends
Bug #3604 - always suppress the DELETED.* mailbox names, even if
delete_mode is immediate. It means a config change or different frontend won't
show undeletable mailboxes
murder etc.)?
> Cheers
In general I would upgrade mupdate master first, then frontends, then
backends. That way the frontends should support anything that the
backend is capable of supporting.
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p(15);
}
Ok, so it's the environment variable CYRUS_VERBOSE. Set it to less than 30.
Seems pretty poorly documented...
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Excellent :) That's what I like to hear!
On Mon, Apr 7, 2014, at 07:03 PM, Roberto Bartali wrote:
> Hi Bron
> I upgraded to the 2.4.17 and the problem seems to be solved!
> Many thanks again
>
> Roberto
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> Il 04/04/2014 12:36, Bron Gondwana ha scritto:
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ave been stolen already.
Upgrading OpenSSL won't stop future login attempts with that stolen
password.
You still need to change your admin password AFTER you have upgraded
OpenSSL.
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2. https://github.
ion. Do you have a
testcase
you're willing to share? Otherwise I can make one of my own.
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ries in the syslog. We run a custom saslauthd, which does
logging, so we get it from there - but this is what shows up in syslog:
imap[20174]: login: HOST [IP] user@domain plaintext User logged in
You can scan those and use them.
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hing in the logs to
> indicate an attempt at autocreation.
Does user.john exist?
Does the user john have the right to create subfolders in their ACL?
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This is what we do at FastMail - quota rejects at the edge using smmapd lookups,
and noquota on the lmtp deliveries internally. Sure the user might
accidentally get
over quota a bit, but it means we never generate bounce emails, so we can't be
used for backscatter in this way.
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> plan?
> or already not maintained anymore too?
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> On Wed, 06 Aug 2014 22:34:23 +0900, Bron Gondwana wrote:
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> > Yes, I think for IMAP 2.3.18 we will keep doing security updates for a
> > while yet.
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