looking for Cyrus mail format documentation

2003-01-31 Thread Phil Howard
A couple people have suggested to me that I use Cyrus-IMAP as opposed to Courier-IMAP, and have given some good arguments for that decision direction. However, I have still have one show stopper for that switch: some external programs that work directly with the storage space of all the mail. Due

Re: looking for Cyrus mail format documentation

2003-01-31 Thread Earl R Shannon
Hello, One of the disadvantage of using Cyrus might be that there is no API to the mail store other than the IMAP protocol. You simply cannot go mucking around the mail store with "external programs" without the potential to cause problems. That said, mail is stored in directories that map unto f

cyradm: Login failed: generic failure at ... Cyrus/IMAP/Admin.pm

2003-01-31 Thread Dennis Leist
Hi, still having troubles with cyrus! MAJOR PROBLEM : I cannot set up mailboxes. Getting access to cyrus gives me: #> cyradm --user cyrus --auth login localhost IMAP Password: Login failed: generic failure at /usr/lib/perl/5.6.1/Cyrus/IMAP/Admin.pm line 114 cyradm: cannot authentic

Re: looking for Cyrus mail format documentation

2003-01-31 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
>A couple people have suggested to me that I use Cyrus-IMAP as >opposed to Courier-IMAP, and have given some good arguments >for that decision direction. However, I have still have one >show stopper for that switch: some external programs that work >directly with the storage space of all the mail.

Re: looking for Cyrus mail format documentation

2003-01-31 Thread Rob Siemborski
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Earl R Shannon wrote: > Cyrus documentation calls the IMAP server a black box. This is defined > to mean that the users do not have access to the account/data accept > through the well defined ( :-/ ) IMAP protocol. This black box concept > also extends to a certain extent to

Re: looking for Cyrus mail format documentation

2003-01-31 Thread Rob Siemborski
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > SASL documentation?! There is some floating about. I love SASL, but > the shreds of documentation are universally terrible. If you have specific suggestions as to what needs to be added, please let us know. If you actually have text, that'd be

Re: looking for Cyrus mail format documentation

2003-01-31 Thread Brian
Adam Tauno Williams said: > SASL documentation?! There is some floating about. I love SASL, but > the shreds of documentation are universally terrible. AFAIK, this is also true for much of the software that CMU produces, however the quality of the software has been so good that no one seems to

Re: looking for Cyrus mail format documentation

2003-01-31 Thread Earl R Shannon
Hello, You are correct on all counts. I was simply trying to make a point, and IMAP is the major protocol used to access the mail store, at least it is here. Nor did I mean to imply that any server that one set's up to see how things worked should be a production machine. In fact, because one woul

Re: Per-Domain-Quota in 2.2 with virtual domains turned on ?

2003-01-31 Thread Ken Murchison
Christian Schulte wrote: > > Ken Murchison wrote: > > >I just committed support for per-domain quotas which works for all > >domains except for the default domain (the code to make it work for the > >default domain would be particularly crufty). To set a domain quota, do > >something like the

Re: looking for Cyrus mail format documentation

2003-01-31 Thread Rob Siemborski
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Earl R Shannon wrote: > But that does now beg the question. There must be some form of > coordination between the various processes as they access the > mail store. Can this not be abstracted out and put in an API to > make it easier for people to write their own applications?

cyradm: Login failed: generic failure at ... Cyrus/IMAP/Admin.pm

2003-01-31 Thread Mike O'Rourke
Hi, still having troubles with cyrus! MAJOR PROBLEM : I cannot set up mailboxes. Getting access to cyrus gives me: #> cyradm --user cyrus --auth login localhost IMAP Password: Login failed: generic failure at /usr/lib/perl/5.6.1/Cyrus/IMAP/Admin.pm line 114 cyradm: cannot authent

Re: looking for Cyrus mail format documentation

2003-01-31 Thread John Alton Tamplin
Earl R Shannon wrote: But that does now beg the question. There must be some form of coordination between the various processes as they access the mail store. Can this not be abstracted out and put in an API to make it easier for people to write their own applications? I would venture a guess to

Conversion

2003-01-31 Thread Robert Scussel
Hello, I have been looking for information that might be able to help me in a task that I am tasked to undertake, and can't find much useful information on. Any help would be appreciated. I am trying to convert a server running qmail to run exim -> cyrus. I am quite familiar with the exim->

Re: looking for Cyrus mail format documentation

2003-01-31 Thread Rob Siemborski
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, John Alton Tamplin wrote: > The point is if you expose the internal API for accessing the mailstore > you are stuck with it and can't make changes. I can't imagine there is > a big need for this or other people wanting to write code to implement > that API, so if you really w

Re: exim and cyrus

2003-01-31 Thread mb/cyrus
Hi.. you don't say which Exim you're using. I'd recommend at least Exim 4.12, which can use the "lmtp" transport to the unix domain socket Cyrus lmtpd is listening on. appendfile does exactly that and misses Cyrus completely. Is your imapd a cyrus imapd? telnet to port 143 and see what it says.

sendmail & webmail

2003-01-31 Thread Dan Bishop
For some of our users webmail has replaced client-based (Netscape) email as their program of choice. We set up webmail so that our users could access their email off campus, but more and more users prefer it for on campus email. Now we have suddenly had a problem with webmail -- not sending ema

Murder and Backend Authentication

2003-01-31 Thread Hank Beatty
I'm working on getting a Murder setup and I can authenticate and pull mail directly from the backend server. However, when I try to proxy the connection I get this in /var/log/messages on the proxy/master: Jan 31 13:40:35 zeus pop3[5437]: login: SERVER[192.168.247.241] hbeatty plaintext Jan 31 13

Re: Conversion/Migration

2003-01-31 Thread Igor Brezac
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, John A. Tamplin wrote: > Rob Siemborski wrote: > > >This really shouldn't be necessary. admins can authorize as any user > >(e.g. login as user cyrus with the password for them, but get rights as > >rjs3). Most SASL mechanisms allow this, though the regular imap LOGIN > >co

Re: Murder and Backend Authentication

2003-01-31 Thread Rob Siemborski
What SASL mechanism are you using between your frontend and backends? Or rather, what mechanisms are your backends advertising? -Rob On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Hank Beatty wrote: > I'm working on getting a Murder setup and I can authenticate and pull mail > directly from the backend server. > > Howev

Re: exim and cyrus

2003-01-31 Thread Patrick Welche
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 03:49:57PM +0100, Peter Burggraef wrote: > I don't know, what exim and cyrus are donig. It's all explained in cyrus/doc/install-configure.html As Matt says you need to tell it use the lmtp protocol. From memory this transport is not included in exim by default, and you nee

Re: looking for Cyrus mail format documentation

2003-01-31 Thread Phil Howard
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 08:57:50AM -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: | It does not use maildir. It actually can use several storage backends, flat | file to sleepcat and some others. Rumor of an SQL backend, that might be what | your looking for. SQL would be harder to do for what I'm doing.

Re: Murder and Backend Authentication

2003-01-31 Thread Hank Beatty
My conf file looks like this: ## # Global info's ## configdirectory: /var/imap partition-default: /var/spool/imap unixhierarchysep: yes altnamespace: yes imapidresponse: no ## #

cyradm

2003-01-31 Thread Daryl Field
I'm having a little trouble with the cyradm tool, firstly I'd like to point out that I'm only running Cyrus in a lab & am not that familiar at this point. I'm authenticating using saslauthd -a pam, everything is working fine from an imap perspective, only imaps, using local acccounts, it's runn

Re: Per-Domain-Quota in 2.2 with virtual domains turned on ?

2003-01-31 Thread Christian Schulte
Ken Murchison wrote: I'l have to talk to Rob and Larry again, but I think that if we're interested in creating the directories on the fly, we'd want to do them as needed (create just what we need now, not the entire tree) and do this regardless of whether we're using virtdomains. mkimap should

Re: Murder and Backend Authentication

2003-01-31 Thread Rob Siemborski
You aren't offering any SASL mechanisms. I believe the 2.2 code even supports STARTTLS (and therefore PLAIN). You need to support a SASL mechanism that allows proxy authentication. The regular IMAP login command isn't good enough. -Rob On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Hank Beatty wrote: > And when I use i

Cyrus SASL 2.1.11 Released

2003-01-31 Thread Rob Siemborski
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'd like to announce the release of Cyrus SASL 2.1.11 on ftp.andrew.cmu.edu. This version is primarily a bug-fix release. Specifically, it addresses a number of issues in the build system, a memory leak in the doors IPC method for saslauthd, and fixe

Cyrus SASL 2.1.11 Release URL

2003-01-31 Thread Rob Siemborski
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Apologies, the URL for the distribution was not included in the previous announcement. The URL for the Cyrus SASL 2.1.11 release is: ftp://ftp.andrew.cmu.edu/pub/cyrus/cyrus-sasl-2.1.11.tar.gz or http://ftp.andrew.cmu.edu/pub/cyrus/cyrus-sasl-2.1.11.

Re: Murder and Backend Authentication

2003-01-31 Thread Rob Siemborski
PLAIN is your only choice (so you'll need to be sure you can get a TLS layer between the frontend and backend). Like I said, I believe 2.2 has this code. I know 2.1 does not. -Rob On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Hank Beatty wrote: > OK. That makes sense. Are there any SASL mechs that can use PAM? > > ---

Re: Murder and Backend Authentication

2003-01-31 Thread Hank Beatty
OK. That makes sense. Are there any SASL mechs that can use PAM? - Original Message - From: "Rob Siemborski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Hank Beatty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Cyrus-Info" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 3:18 PM Subject: Re: Murder and Backend Authentication

Re: Per-Domain-Quota in 2.2 with virtual domains turned on ?

2003-01-31 Thread Ken Murchison
Christian Schulte wrote: > > Ken Murchison wrote: > > >I'l have to talk to Rob and Larry again, but I think that if we're > >interested in creating the directories on the fly, we'd want to do them > >as needed (create just what we need now, not the entire tree) and do > >this regardless of whet

Re: Murder and Backend Authentication

2003-01-31 Thread Rob Siemborski
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Ken Murchison wrote: > Like Rob said, just PLAIN, which will require you to use STARTTLS, which > is only in 2.2. That being said, since you will likely only have one or > two proxy admins, you could just put them in sasldb2 and use DIGEST-MD5. This may break some clients, s

Re: Murder and Backend Authentication

2003-01-31 Thread Ken Murchison
Hank Beatty wrote: > > OK. That makes sense. Are there any SASL mechs that can use PAM? Like Rob said, just PLAIN, which will require you to use STARTTLS, which is only in 2.2. That being said, since you will likely only have one or two proxy admins, you could just put them in sasldb2 and use

imapd's hang when maxchild count is reached

2003-01-31 Thread Sebastian Hagedorn
Hi, we are currently testing our installation of cyrus-imapd 2.1.11 using a self-written Perl script that's imitating real use. We intend to contribute the script when we've cleaned it up a little. Anyway, during our tests we noticed something strange. In /etc/cyrus.conf we have the line: ima

Re: Murder and Backend Authentication

2003-01-31 Thread Eric S. Pulley
Sorry if this is just obvious but... Everyone keep stating that STARTTLS is not supported in 2.1.x I'm assuming that it just doesn't work for the Backend Authentication in a Murder since I'm using it to connect to my standalone server just fine. Or do I have something very worng going on here?

Re: Murder and Backend Authentication

2003-01-31 Thread Rob Siemborski
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Eric S. Pulley wrote: > Sorry if this is just obvious but... Everyone keep stating that > STARTTLS is not supported in 2.1.x I'm assuming that it just doesn't > work for the Backend Authentication in a Murder since I'm using it to > connect to my standalone server just fine.

ctl_deliver not finishing

2003-01-31 Thread Brandon High
I'm having a bit of a problem on our IMAP server. There are several instances of ctl_deliver, some running for over 2 days. # ps -ef|grep deliver cyrus 331 303 27 Jan 29 ? 2671:33 ctl_deliver -E 3 cyrus 6736 303 26 12:48:32 ? 112:04 ctl_deliver -E 3 cyrus 2647 303

Re: looking for Cyrus mail format documentation

2003-01-31 Thread Phil Howard
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 09:57:40AM -0500, John Alton Tamplin wrote: | Earl R Shannon wrote: | | > But that does now beg the question. There must be some form of | > coordination between the various processes as they access the | > mail store. Can this not be abstracted out and put in an API to |

Re: cyradm: Login failed: generic failure at ...Cyrus/IMAP/Admin.pm

2003-01-31 Thread OBATA Akio
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 14:14:53 +0100 Dennis Leist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > #> cyradm --user cyrus --auth login localhost > IMAP Password: > Login failed: generic failure at > /usr/lib/perl/5.6.1/Cyrus/IMAP/Admin.pm line 114 > cyradm: cannot authenticate to server with login as cyr

Re: looking for Cyrus mail format documentation

2003-01-31 Thread John A. Tamplin
Phil Howard wrote: One of the needs I have is to build a two-way mail store replica. Either node may be delivered to, and either node may be accessed by the user but only one at a time. The two nodes are topologically and geographically far apart, and bandwidth between them is to be considered

Re: looking for Cyrus mail format documentation

2003-01-31 Thread Phil Howard
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 08:33:41PM -0500, John A. Tamplin wrote: | Phil Howard wrote: | | >One of the needs I have is to build a two-way mail store replica. Either | >node may be delivered to, and either node may be accessed by the user but | >only one at a time. The two nodes are topologically