At Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:22:20 -0700 (PDT), Andrew Morgan wrote:
Subject: Re: murder and autocreate (I know it is not supported)
>
> Unix systems don't automatically create accounts when someone tries to
> login...
But unix mailers do automatically create mailboxes for existing
Aristotelis a écrit :
>
> While having a look in the issue a function was created that was running
> on proxyd (no unified systems) that was going through the list of the
> available backend servers (the list was given as a configuration option)
> and picking one randomly. Then it was making a
Hello all,
It is an interesting discussion about the autocreate feature in cyrus
imapd. I would like to point you to a rather old discussion (but still
very relevant) that was on cyrus-devel:
http://marc.info/?l=cyrus-devel&m=109206301904447&w=2
It outlines some design choises and some eva
Andrew Morgan wrote:
AM> In the case of new mailbox creation, something must decide
AM> which backend/partition to use.
AM> I'm trying to think of a way the frontend could determine
AM> which backends/partitions exist, but I don't think it can
AM> currently.
AM> Let's assume it could though...
Andrew Morgan wrote:
GAW> User management tools should NEVER _ever_ have anything to
GAW> do with mailbox _creation_.
AM> NEVER use absolutes! ;)
Let's talk about "common deployment scenarios", then ;-)
GAW> The (modern) MTA _must_ validate the addresses.
AM> Unix systems don't automatically
On Thu, 18 Jun 2009, Greg A. Woods wrote:
> Not having a built-in basic way for Cyrus to automatically create
> mailboxes for valid users is also a poor design. Several good
> well-tested patches to enable this feature had been available for a very
> long time (years?) before the "murder" feature
On Thu, 18 Jun 2009, Greg A. Woods wrote:
> Cyrus autocreate isn't creating mailboxes "on its own" -- it's creating
> them at the demand of, and under the guidance of, the MTA
>
> So, if something screwed up, as things inevitably do, even with all
> kinds of fancy special local script hacks that a
At Mon, 15 Jun 2009 07:42:14 -0400, Dave McMurtrie
wrote:
Subject: Re: murder and autocreate (I know it is not supported)
>
> Exactly. The point I was trying to make is that we already have a need
> for some system to be able to connect to our IMAP server for the purpose
>
At Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:37:34 -0700 (PDT), Andrew Morgan wrote:
Subject: Re: murder and autocreate (I know it is not supported)
>
> >> Why make everything far more complicated than it needs to be?
> >> Especially things related to user management?
> >>
> >
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Wesley Craig wrote:
> On 11 Jun 2009, at 18:59, Dave McMurtrie wrote:
>> A valid point to mailbox creation, but what would delete the mailbox
>> when a student graduates?
>
> There is no mailbox location problem for deletes. IDM simply connects
> to any frontend, permits itself, and then deletes
On 11 Jun 2009, at 18:59, Dave McMurtrie wrote:
> A valid point to mailbox creation, but what would delete the mailbox
> when a student graduates?
There is no mailbox location problem for deletes. IDM simply
connects to any frontend, permits itself, and then deletes the
mailbox hierarchy.
:w
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009, Dave McMurtrie wrote:
>>> What Ken is working on isn't specific to autocreate. Rather, he's
>>> working to integrate IDM into our environment. We need a way for our
>>> identity management system to be able to simply connect to a Cyrus
>>> frontend and issue a create command
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 06:59:00PM -0400, Dave McMurtrie wrote:
>
> On Jun 11, 2009, at 6:38 PM, "Greg A. Woods"
> wrote:
> > Why make everything far more complicated than it needs to be?
> > Especially things related to user management?
>
> A valid point to mailbox creation, but what would de
On Jun 11, 2009, at 6:38 PM, "Greg A. Woods"
wrote:
> At Wed, 10 Jun 2009 07:38:31 -0400, Dave McMurtrie > wrote:
> Subject: Re: murder and autocreate (I know it is not supported)
>>
>> What Ken is working on isn't specific to autocreate. Rather, he&#x
Greg A. Woods wrote:
DMcM> What Ken is working on isn't specific to autocreate. Rather,
DMcM> he's working to integrate IDM into our environment. We need
DMcM> a way for our identity management system to be able to simply
DMcM> connect to a Cyrus frontend and issue a create command and
DMcM> hav
At Wed, 10 Jun 2009 07:38:31 -0400, Dave McMurtrie
wrote:
Subject: Re: murder and autocreate (I know it is not supported)
>
> What Ken is working on isn't specific to autocreate. Rather, he's
> working to integrate IDM into our environment. We need a way for our
> iden
Paolo Cravero wrote:
> In words, the backend not owning the mailbox tries to create it, but receives
> a deny from the murder server. Then it opens the target mailbox
> (onBE1/778899)
> and creates the .seen structure.
>
> So far this means a messy maillog file. I will use autocreate just to
Thank you Duncan for the info about the patch. I would try it, but I'm sure it
would not be accepted by the tech stuff as it is not official.
As I said in another thread, this is what happens when autocreate is ON in a
murder setup with several backends, and a user accesses a shared mailbox
res
On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 06:30:31PM +0100, Duncan Gibb wrote:
> Dave McMurtrie wrote:
>
> DMcM> Ken is actually working on some code now that will integrate
> DMcM> this functionality into Cyrus. I'm short on details right now
> DMcM> (exactly how it will work and exactly when it will be done)
>
Dave McMurtrie wrote:
DMcM> Ken is actually working on some code now that will integrate
DMcM> this functionality into Cyrus. I'm short on details right now
DMcM> (exactly how it will work and exactly when it will be done)
I don't think you're allowed to specify both of those ;-)
DMcM> but I th
Duncan Gibb wrote:
> Paolo Cravero wrote:
>
> PC> I have read in the docs that the autocreate patch does not work
> PC> with murder, and I have experienced it too. But...
>
> PC> ... if I leave the autocreate ON on backends only, and then
> PC> simulate an IMAP access or mail delivery right at th
Paolo Cravero wrote:
PC> I have read in the docs that the autocreate patch does not work
PC> with murder, and I have experienced it too. But...
PC> ... if I leave the autocreate ON on backends only, and then
PC> simulate an IMAP access or mail delivery right at the backend
PC> level, I should not
Hi.
I'm setting up a test environment with frontend, backend, murder (currently 1,
1, 1 respectively). All using RPMs on recent RedHat systems.
I have read in the docs that the autocreate patch does not work with murder,
and I have experienced it too. But...
... if I leave the autocreate ON on
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