Re: Problem with cyrus and deleting a message with a virus.

2003-01-28 Thread Additive GmbH System Admin
Mark London schrieb: Hi - We are running uvscan, and it will delete a cyrus message file that contains a virus. Of course, cyrus doesn't know that the message is deleted, so it still shows that message, albeit it shows up as being from Unknown with (no subject). The problem i

Re: Problem with cyrus and deleting a message with a virus.

2003-01-22 Thread John Alton Tamplin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Irrelevant question. The fact that it could happen is enough. I can't stop my users going to someone's computer (which has no virus protection) and connecting to my IMAP server. I have students who will no doubt use the IMAP server as a filestore when they run out of quot

Re: Problem with cyrus and deleting a message with a virus.

2003-01-22 Thread Brian
Bottom line: The virus scanning should be done by your MTA. If you muck around in user mailboxes, deleting messages willy nilly without letting Cyrus know, you *will* corrupt users' mailstores, unless you tediously plan to run reconstruct on a mailbox everytime a virus is found. Unless your name

Re: Problem with cyrus and deleting a message with a virus.

2003-01-22 Thread mb/cyrus
On Jan 21 Jonathan Marsden wrote: >> Because (as mentioned elsewhere in this thread) lmtpd is not the >> only way messages can be stored on an IMAP server: eg think of >> sending a poisoned attachment, which magically ends up in your sent >> folder. > >I don't see the 'elsewhere in this thread' mai

Re: Problem with cyrus and deleting a message with a virus.

2003-01-22 Thread Piet Ruyssinck
On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Mark London wrote: > I'm not messing with it, uvscan is doing it. Is there a better software > alternative that will delete viruses on the server? Are we the only people > using cyrus that are running virus scanning software on the server? I do the virus scanning and spam f

Re: Problem with cyrus and deleting a message with a virus.

2003-01-21 Thread Jules Agee
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 14:16 -0800 Jonathan Marsden wrote: How about checking for viruses before mail reaches Cyrus? Such as with a virus scanner that runs as a milter which sendmail talks to when it receives mail? Or a similar approach for whatever your chosen MTA is? Because (as men

Re: Problem with cyrus and deleting a message with a virus.

2003-01-21 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 21 Jan 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > At 14:16 -0800 Jonathan Marsden wrote: >> How about checking for viruses before mail reaches Cyrus? Such as >> with a virus scanner that runs as a milter which sendmail talks to >> when it receives mail? Or a similar approach for whatever your >> cho

Re: Problem with cyrus and deleting a message with a virus.

2003-01-21 Thread mb/cyrus
At 14:16 -0800 Jonathan Marsden wrote: >How about checking for viruses before mail reaches Cyrus? Such as >with a virus scanner that runs as a milter which sendmail talks to >when it receives mail? Or a similar approach for whatever your chosen >MTA is? Because (as mentioned elsewhere in this t

Re: Problem with cyrus and deleting a message with a virus.

2003-01-21 Thread mb/cyrus
At 16:56 -0500 Brian wrote: >Mark London said: > >> I'm not messing with it, uvscan is doing it. Is there a better software >> alternative that will delete viruses on the server? Are we the only >> people using cyrus that are running virus scanning software on the >> server? But uvscan is treati

Re: Problem with cyrus and deleting a message with a virus.

2003-01-21 Thread Jeremy Rumpf
On Tuesday 21 January 2003 16:58 pm, Will Day wrote: > A short time ago, at a computer terminal not so far away, Mark London wrote: > >> If you're messing around with the internal data stores of a program, and > >> then you get upset when the program doesn't work, I'd say that you've > >> created y

Re: Problem with cyrus and deleting a message with a virus.

2003-01-21 Thread Ted Cabeen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Alton Tamplin writes: >Ted Cabeen wrote: >>Right. Other than losing the flags data, are there any other downsides to >>this solution? (We were thinking of using this to

Re: Problem with cyrus and deleting a message with a virus.

2003-01-21 Thread John Alton Tamplin
Ted Cabeen wrote: Right. Other than losing the flags data, are there any other downsides to this solution? (We were thinking of using this to delete old messages from users spam folders) If your users all have spam folders named the same or similar (presumably put there by spam filtering

Re: Problem with cyrus and deleting a message with a virus.

2003-01-21 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 21 Jan 2003, Mark London writes: >>> Hi - We are running uvscan, and it will delete a cyrus message >>> file that contains a virus. ... >> If you're messing around with the internal data stores of a >> program, and then you get upset when the program doesn't work, I'd >> say that you've creat

Re: Problem with cyrus and deleting a message with a virus.

2003-01-21 Thread Brian
Mark London said: > I'm not messing with it, uvscan is doing it. Is there a better software > alternative that will delete viruses on the server? Are we the only > people using cyrus that are running virus scanning software on the > server? There was a discussion on this last week. Search the

Re: Problem with cyrus and deleting a message with a virus.

2003-01-21 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Mark London wrote: > I'm not messing with it, uvscan is doing it. Is there a better software You told it to... > alternative that will delete viruses on the server? Are we the only people Yes, you don't let the virus in the server on the first place, using a content scanni

Re: Problem with cyrus and deleting a message with a virus.

2003-01-21 Thread John Alton Tamplin
Mark London wrote: I'm not messing with it, uvscan is doing it. Is there a better software alternative that will delete viruses on the server? Are we the only people using cyrus that are running virus scanning software on the server? I think most people scanning their mail do so before it is

Re: Problem with cyrus and deleting a message with a virus.

2003-01-21 Thread Connie Starr Fensky
AIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 3:07 PM Subject: Problem with cyrus and deleting a message with a virus. > Hi - We are running uvscan, and it will delete a cyrus message file that > contains a virus. Of course, cyrus doesn't know that the

Re: Problem with cyrus and deleting a message with a virus.

2003-01-21 Thread Ramiro Morales
On 21 Jan 2003 at 16:31, Mark London wrote: > > I'm not messing with it, uvscan is doing it. Is there a better software > alternative that will delete viruses on the server? Are we the only > people using cyrus that are running virus scanning software on the > server? The only valid way to acc

Re: Problem with cyrus and deleting a message with a virus.

2003-01-21 Thread Rob Siemborski
On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Ted Cabeen wrote: > >(Note that you can also rebuild the mailbox with the reconstruct command, > >but I don't recommend this as a general solution). > > Right. Other than losing the flags data, are there any other downsides to > this solution? (We were thinking of using this

Re: Problem with cyrus and deleting a message with a virus.

2003-01-21 Thread Jason Englander
On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Mark London wrote: > I'm not messing with it, uvscan is doing it. Is there a better software > alternative that will delete viruses on the server? Are we the only people > using cyrus that are running virus scanning software on the server? If you use sendmail, set up MIMEDe

Re: Problem with cyrus and deleting a message with a virus.

2003-01-21 Thread Ted Cabeen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rob S iemborski writes: >On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Mark London wrote: >If you're messing around with the internal data stores of a program, and >then you get upset when the program

Re: Problem with cyrus and deleting a message with a virus.

2003-01-21 Thread Rob Siemborski
On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Mark London wrote: > I'm not messing with it, uvscan is doing it. Is there a better software > alternative that will delete viruses on the server? Are we the only people > using cyrus that are running virus scanning software on the server? Run a scanner as a part of your MT

Re: Problem with cyrus and deleting a message with a virus.

2003-01-21 Thread Mark London
> > Hi - We are running uvscan, and it will delete a cyrus message file that > > contains a virus. Of course, cyrus doesn't know that the message is deleted, > > so it still shows that message, albeit it shows up as being from Unknown with > > (no subject). The problem is that this message can't

Re: Problem with cyrus and deleting a message with a virus.

2003-01-21 Thread Rob Siemborski
On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Mark London wrote: > Hi - We are running uvscan, and it will delete a cyrus message file that > contains a virus. Of course, cyrus doesn't know that the message is deleted, > so it still shows that message, albeit it shows up as being from Unknown with > (no subject). The pr

Problem with cyrus and deleting a message with a virus.

2003-01-21 Thread Mark London
Hi - We are running uvscan, and it will delete a cyrus message file that contains a virus. Of course, cyrus doesn't know that the message is deleted, so it still shows that message, albeit it shows up as being from Unknown with (no subject). The problem is that this message can't be deleted, no m