Re: [HTTPS-E Rulesets] Suggested ruleset for new HTTPS site

2015-02-05 Thread Alexander Buchner
On 06.11.2014 13:27, Steven Tress wrote: > Hello > > I've just converted my site to HTTPS. Attached is the ruleset for the > site, suggested to be included in the built in repository. > > Steven Tress Since your site also supports HSTS there is no need for an extra httpsE-rule. Btw: You could s

Re: [HTTPS-E Rulesets] Suggested ruleset for new HTTPS site

2015-02-05 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On Thu 2015-02-05 05:12:50 -0500, Alexander Buchner wrote: > On 06.11.2014 13:27, Steven Tress wrote: >> I've just converted my site to HTTPS. Attached is the ruleset for the >> site, suggested to be included in the built in repository. > > Since your site also supports HSTS there is no need for an

Re: [HTTPS-E Rulesets] Suggested ruleset for new HTTPS site

2015-02-05 Thread Joakim Walldén
Not to argue against adding a ruleset, but the domain is in the HSTS-list¹, so the browser will not try to connect to it insecurely. ¹ https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/net/+/master/http/transport_security_state_static.json Kind regards, Joakim 2015-02-05 16:54 GMT+01:00 Daniel Kahn

Re: [HTTPS-E Rulesets] Suggested ruleset for new HTTPS site

2015-02-05 Thread Alexander Buchner
On 05.02.2015 16:54, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > Alexander, I don't think that's the right analysis. Having an > httpsE-rule avoids an sslstrip attack for people in their first time > visiting, which HSTS does not defend against. > > If i type "steventress.com" into my browser right now (having

Re: [HTTPS-E Rulesets] Suggested ruleset for new HTTPS site

2015-02-05 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On Thu 2015-02-05 11:12:29 -0500, Joakim Walldén wrote: > Not to argue against adding a ruleset, but the domain is in the HSTS-list¹, > so the browser will not try to connect to it insecurely. > > ¹ > https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/net/+/master/http/transport_security_state_static.j

Re: [HTTPS-E Rulesets] Suggested ruleset for new HTTPS site

2015-02-05 Thread Seth David Schoen
Daniel Kahn Gillmor writes: > I guess both chromium and firefox support the preload list these days, > so maybe that means it's not necessary? but it would be a shame for > someone to take the httpse dataset (e.g. for something like a local > proxy service) and *not* include things that happened

Re: [HTTPS-E Rulesets] Suggested ruleset for new HTTPS site

2015-02-05 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On Thu 2015-02-05 13:42:55 -0500, Seth David Schoen wrote: > In the past I had a script to autogenerate rules from the preload list, > but I think we decided that it was redundant because the browsers we > support now all use that list. I don't think we've thought about the > effect for folks (may