Re: [groff] PSPIC vs PDFPIC: adjust documentation to reality, or the reverse?

2018-06-01 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Rob, Please keep groff@gnu.org CC'd. > I am keen to completely switch from PS to PDF. The thread suggests > there is a PDFPIC macro. What release is it or will it be in? Do I > have a release to look forward to? ... > I currently use 1.22.3 Me too, and that's the latest. It doesn't have t

Re: [groff] PSPIC vs PDFPIC: adjust documentation to reality, or the reverse?

2018-04-10 Thread Deri James
On Tue 10 Apr 2018 19:26:57 Tadziu Hoffmann wrote: > > I don't have a specific name suggestion, and I'm aware that > > this is a bikeshed, but can I suggest a more explicit variable > > name? Otherwise the next time some old behaviour needs to be > > switchably deprecated we're in for some confusi

Re: [groff] PSPIC vs PDFPIC: adjust documentation to reality, or the reverse?

2018-04-10 Thread Tadziu Hoffmann
> I don't have a specific name suggestion, and I'm aware that > this is a bikeshed, but can I suggest a more explicit variable > name? Otherwise the next time some old behaviour needs to be > switchably deprecated we're in for some confusion. Maybe a descriptive name, for example PDFPIC_NOSPACE?

Re: [groff] PSPIC vs PDFPIC: adjust documentation to reality, or the reverse?

2018-04-10 Thread Ted Harding
[See at end ... ] On Tue, 2018-04-10 at 18:05 +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 03:57:19PM +0100, Deri James wrote: > > To avoid making existing documents render incorrectly I propose to allow > > the > > existing behaviour to be selected. Adding this to the NEWS file:- > > >

Re: [groff] PSPIC vs PDFPIC: adjust documentation to reality, or the reverse?

2018-04-10 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 03:57:19PM +0100, Deri James wrote: > To avoid making existing documents render incorrectly I propose to allow the > existing behaviour to be selected. Adding this to the NEWS file:- > > > PDFPIC

Re: [groff] PSPIC vs PDFPIC: adjust documentation to reality, or the reverse?

2018-04-10 Thread Peter Schaffter
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018, Deri James wrote: > > PDFPIC has now been corrected, so the behaviour is the same whether you use > the postscript or pdf drivers. However, this means that any documents which > were written using t

Re: [groff] PSPIC vs PDFPIC: adjust documentation to reality, or the reverse?

2018-04-10 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Deri, I agree that altering the default to obtain the old `faulty' behaviour is a good idea. > A) Add the line ".nr PDFPIC_LEGACY 1" to the document before the first > call to .PDFPIC. > > B) If it is just a single document which exhibits this behaviour you > can run groff adding "-rPDFPIC_LEG

Re: [groff] PSPIC vs PDFPIC: adjust documentation to reality, or the reverse?

2018-04-10 Thread Deri James
On Mon 02 Apr 2018 12:14:03 Ralph Corderoy wrote: > Good afternoon Bernhard, > > > > So pdfpic is an extension of pspic. By that you can now even replace > > > all PSPIC by PDFPIC, nothing gets lost by that. > > > > I read this as suggesting that results with -Tps and -Tpdf should be > > equivale

Re: [groff] PSPIC vs PDFPIC: adjust documentation to reality, or the reverse

2018-04-08 Thread Deri James
On Mon 02 Apr 2018 14:30:51 Doug McIlroy wrote: > > > Would it hence be sensible to change PDFPIC to fit the description > > Yes. This is clearly a bug, even if it's been around for years. > > Doug 100% agreement this should be fixed, although compatibility with previous version will be broke

Re: [groff] PSPIC vs PDFPIC: adjust documentation to reality, or the reverse?

2018-04-02 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Good afternoon Bernhard, > > So pdfpic is an extension of pspic. By that you can now even replace > > all PSPIC by PDFPIC, nothing gets lost by that. > > I read this as suggesting that results with -Tps and -Tpdf should be > equivalent. Strongly agree. > Would it hence be sensible to change PDFP

[groff] PSPIC vs PDFPIC: adjust documentation to reality, or the reverse?

2018-04-01 Thread Bernhard Fisseni
Good evening, when playing around with PSPIC and PDFPIC, I noticed that they behave differently: PDFPIC does not reserve vertical space for a picture, but PSPIC does. I had asked Deri James's help on this, he confirmed the problem and suggested to raise the question here. The documentation in g