Re: [Groff] refer question

2005-05-06 Thread joerg van den hoff
Peter Schaffter wrote: On Wed, May 04, 2005, joerg van den hoff wrote: hi all, is there a way to reset refer settings somewhere 'downstream' if the 'upstream' defaults are no good? specifically: in my document I source a certain defaults file in which, upon different other settings, one finds:

Re: [Groff] refer question

2005-05-06 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> > is there a way to reset refer settings somewhere 'downstream' if > > the 'upstream' defaults are no good? > > > > specifically: > > > > in my document I source a certain defaults file in which, upon > > different other settings, one finds: > > > > ... > > .R1 > > database the_standard_database

Re: [Groff] refer question

2005-05-04 Thread Peter Schaffter
On Wed, May 04, 2005, joerg van den hoff wrote: > hi all, > > is there a way to reset refer settings somewhere 'downstream' if the > 'upstream' defaults are no good? > > specifically: > > in my document I source a certain defaults file in which, upon different > other settings, one finds: > >

[Groff] refer question

2005-05-04 Thread joerg van den hoff
hi all, is there a way to reset refer settings somewhere 'downstream' if the 'upstream' defaults are no good? specifically: in my document I source a certain defaults file in which, upon different other settings, one finds: ... .R1 database the_standard_database .R2 ... now, I want to set in th

Re: [Groff] refer question

2005-04-04 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I think, if there's a problem with refer, it's the documentation. > There's very little of it other than the manpage, and the manpage is > a pure example of what can be both good and bad about manpages: it > contains all the information you need, but in a form so terse you > have to know the pro

Re: [Groff] refer question

2005-04-02 Thread Jorgen Grahn
On Sat Apr 2 10:29:34 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [I wrote] > > MLA seems to be "Modern Language Association". What kind of > > status (official or unofficial) does this style have? I have > > never heard about it or seen it used. ... > There are two major academic traditions to deal with bib

Re: [Groff] refer question

2005-04-02 Thread Peter Schaffter
On Sat, Apr 02, 2005, Jorgen Grahn wrote: > On Fri Apr 1 23:42:51 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On 01-Apr-05 Peter Schaffter wrote: > ... > > > > > > In contemporary North American bibliographies, about five > > > styles are "standard", though by no means the only ones used: > > > > > >

Re: [Groff] refer question

2005-04-02 Thread Alejandro López-Valencia
Mats Broberg wrote: I've begun work on adding refer capabilities to mom. Using the ms refer module as a starting point, I'm setting mom up to use MLA bibliographic rules. MLA seems to be "Modern Language Association". What kind of status (official or unofficial) does this style have? I h

RE: [Groff] refer question

2005-04-02 Thread Mats Broberg
> > I've begun work on adding refer capabilities to mom. Using the ms > > refer module as a starting point, I'm setting mom up to use MLA > > bibliographic rules. > > MLA seems to be "Modern Language Association". What kind of > status (official or unofficial) does this style have? I have > n

Re: [Groff] refer question

2005-04-02 Thread Jorgen Grahn
On Fri Apr 1 23:42:51 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 01-Apr-05 Peter Schaffter wrote: ... > > > > In contemporary North American bibliographies, about five > > styles are "standard", though by no means the only ones used: > > > > AMA (American Medical Association) > > APA

Re: [Groff] refer question

2005-04-01 Thread Peter Schaffter
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005, Ted Harding wrote: > I understand that the MLA style is the general "norm" for > publications in the Humanities, to the extent that many > Humanities journals either strongly recommend it or insist > on it. > > To your above list you could also add, for instance, the > AMA (A

Re: [Groff] refer question

2005-04-01 Thread Ted Harding
On 01-Apr-05 Peter Schaffter wrote: > On Fri, Apr 01, 2005, Jorgen Grahn wrote: >> On Thu Mar 31 23:22:08 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> > Hi. >> > >> > I've begun work on adding refer capabilities to mom. >> > Using the ms refer module as a starting point, I'm >> > setting mom up to use MLA bi

Re: [Groff] refer question

2005-04-01 Thread Peter Schaffter
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005, Jorgen Grahn wrote: > On Thu Mar 31 23:22:08 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi. > > > > I've begun work on adding refer capabilities to mom. Using the ms > > refer module as a starting point, I'm setting mom up to use MLA > > bibliographic rules. > > MLA seems to be "Mo

Re: [Groff] refer question

2005-04-01 Thread Jorgen Grahn
On Thu Mar 31 23:22:08 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi. > > I've begun work on adding refer capabilities to mom. Using the ms > refer module as a starting point, I'm setting mom up to use MLA > bibliographic rules. MLA seems to be "Modern Language Association". What kind of status (official

Re: [Groff] refer question

2005-03-31 Thread Wartan Hachaturow
On Apr 1, 2005 10:30 AM, Wartan Hachaturow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > you know, I write in Russian, and having an "and" in a reference > doesn't help much, if it's a > Russian reference ;) Uh-oh. It's not really hardcoded -- treat this letter as an April joke :) -- Regards, Wartan. _

Re: [Groff] refer question

2005-03-31 Thread Wartan Hachaturow
On Apr 1, 2005 8:22 AM, Peter Schaffter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm wondering if anyone knows a way around this, short of changing > refer.cpp's > > string join_authors_exactly_two = " and "; > > assertion to > > string join_authors_exactly_two = ", and "; > > I'd prefer to state

Re: [Groff] refer question

2005-03-31 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 11:22:08PM -0500, Peter Schaffter wrote: > Blow, Joe, and John Doe > ^ > > By default, refer produces > > Blow, Joe and John Doe > > I'm wondering if anyone knows a way around this. I don't know if this helps, but in a document, it can be done as .R1

Re: [Groff] refer question

2005-03-31 Thread Peter Schaffter
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005, Zvezdan Petkovic wrote: > On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 11:22:08PM -0500, Peter Schaffter wrote: > > Blow, Joe, and John Doe > > ^ > > > > By default, refer produces > > > > Blow, Joe and John Doe > > > > I'm wondering if anyone knows a way around this. > >

[Groff] refer question

2005-03-31 Thread Peter Schaffter
Hi. I've begun work on adding refer capabilities to mom. Using the ms refer module as a starting point, I'm setting mom up to use MLA bibliographic rules. It's going well, but I've encountered a small (and I do mean small) snag. MLA rules state that when you have two authors, a comma should com