[Groff] Re: Manuals in pdf format

2006-07-17 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Please note that the footer on page 4 (this is physical page 8) is one > line lower than the footer on page 3 and 5. > > Thanks for the sample input. Turns out it was (I think) an easy bug to > fix. Diff below, and updated ftp://tug.org/tex/texinfo.tex, among other > places. > > Let m

[Groff] Re: Manuals in pdf format

2006-07-16 Thread Karl Berry
Please note that the footer on page 4 (this is physical page 8) is one line lower than the footer on page 3 and 5. Thanks for the sample input. Turns out it was (I think) an easy bug to fix. Diff below, and updated ftp://tug.org/tex/texinfo.tex, among other places. Let me know if still

Re: [Groff] Re: Manuals in pdf format

2006-06-19 Thread Karl Berry
Perhaps it is possible to change them to roman, providing an @italicleaders command for backwards compatibility... I changed the leaders back to regular periods. Didn't bother with an option. We'll see if anyone notices. karl ___ Groff maili

Re: [Groff] Re: Manuals in pdf format

2006-06-04 Thread Karl Berry
Well, looking at them with a PDF viewer, they look really bad IMHO. Shrug. That's how I was looking at them. They don't look especially bad to me. Perhaps it is possible to change them to roman, providing an @italicleaders command for backwards compatibility... No, it's not worth a

Re: [Groff] Re: Manuals in pdf format

2006-06-03 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> No one has mentioned it to me before now, that I can recall. :-) Suddenly two people are disturbed by it almost at the same time. > I have to admit the italic periods don't bother me. In fact, by > being oriented a bit toward the right they are a bit more "leader-y" > than normal periods. We

Re: [Groff] Re: Manuals in pdf format

2006-06-03 Thread Karl Berry
> Incidentally, looking at the PDF file, I wonder what could possibly > be the purpose of using "italic" dots as leaders in the table of > contents? I have exactly the same question... It seems rms made the change nearly 13 years ago: Sun Nov 21 22:16:21 1993 Richard Stallman (

Re: [Groff] Re: Manuals in pdf format

2006-06-02 Thread Karl Berry
> Incidentally, looking at the PDF file, I wonder what could possibly > be the purpose of using "italic" dots as leaders in the table of > contents? I have exactly the same question... I wasn't aware that it was. Will look into it. karl

Re: [Groff] Re: Manuals in pdf format

2006-06-02 Thread Werner LEMBERG
[About the just sent `test.texinfo'.] > Incidentally, looking at the PDF file, I wonder what could possibly > be the purpose of using "italic" dots as leaders in the table of > contents? I have exactly the same question... Werner ___ Groff mail

Re: [Groff] Re: Manuals in pdf format

2006-06-02 Thread Tadziu Hoffmann
> Attached is a reduced version of groff.texinfo, > together with a PDF version of it. Incidentally, looking at the PDF file, I wonder what could possibly be the purpose of using "italic" dots as leaders in the table of contents? ___ Groff mailing l

[Groff] Re: Manuals in pdf format

2006-06-01 Thread Karl Berry
PS: A related thing is the use of `Chapter:' in the header line. I consider this redundant; a simple number would be sufficient. Consequently, I would like to see @thissectionname, @thissecnum, and @thischapnum. I added @thischapternum for use in headers/footers. Doin

[Groff] Re: Manuals in pdf format

2006-06-01 Thread Karl Berry
BTW, a footer string as defined with @xxxfooting jumps up and down within the output -- this is *really* ugly, and I consider it as a severe typographical bug (I use texinfo 4.8). I cannot reproduce this with the current texinfo.tex (ftp://tug.org/tex/texinfo.tex). I added your line

[Groff] Re: Manuals in pdf format

2006-03-10 Thread Karl Berry
Hi Werner, Please add a proper @thissection command This means using marks, etc. Sorry, I don't plan to implement this any time soon, if ever. Maybe Stepan or someone else would like to work on it. @thissection{} isn't in the Texinfo manual any more (and hasn't been for years), because no