Re: [Groff] ASCII dash in UTF-8 locale

2015-01-23 Thread Tadziu Hoffmann
> > Heirloom troff and groff both render \- as en dash, > > not minus sign, in PDF output. > If you use groff's native pdf driver (-Tpdf) I believe > minus is rendered, can be searched for and copy/pasted. > The postscript driver also outputs a "minus" so I suspect > it is the ghostscript convers

Re: [Groff] ASCII dash in UTF-8 locale

2015-01-23 Thread Carsten Kunze
Deri James wrote: > If you use groff's native pdf driver (-Tpdf) I believe > minus is rendered, can be searched for and > copy/pasted. The postscript driver also outputs a > "minus" so I suspect it is the ghostscript conversion > to pdf which is changing it. It is ok for me if copy/paste fro

Re: [Groff] ASCII dash in UTF-8 locale

2015-01-23 Thread Deri James
On Fri 23 Jan 2015 08:39:20 Anthony J. Bentley wrote: > Heirloom troff and groff both render \- as en dash, not minus sign, > in PDF output. If you use groff's native pdf driver (-Tpdf) I believe minus is rendered, can be searched for and copy/pasted. The postscript driver also outputs a "min

Re: [Groff] ASCII dash in UTF-8 locale

2015-01-23 Thread Carsten Kunze
"Anthony J. Bentley" wrote: > I only > ever mark up command flags in -mdoc, so I just type Fl for those. I > wish Fl became ASCII '-', but we're talking about changing decades of > historical practice here. It is ASCII (as Ingo had pointed out), isn't it? I had tested it right now with -mdoc a

Re: [Groff] ASCII dash in UTF-8 locale

2015-01-23 Thread Carsten Kunze
Hello Ingo and Anthony, > That shouldn't happen in manual pages. Both tmac/an-old.tmac > and tmac/doc.tmac contain: > > .\" For UTF-8, map some characters conservatively for the sake > .\" of easy cut and paste. > . > .if '\*[.T]'utf8' \{\ > . rchar \- - ' ` > . > . char \- \N'45' > .

Re: [Groff] ASCII dash in UTF-8 locale

2015-01-23 Thread Anthony J. Bentley
Hi Carsten, Carsten Kunze writes: > is there a way (except \N'45') to output an ASCII dash (0x2d) with > nroff in an UTF-8 locale (i.e. without -T or with -Tutf8)? > > I want to copy command lines from nroff output into a xterm, but the > shell complains about the '-' which is not 0x2d. > > E.g.

Re: [Groff] ASCII dash in UTF-8 locale

2015-01-23 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Carsten, Carsten Kunze wrote on Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 03:59:41PM +0100: > is there a way (except \N'45') to output an ASCII dash (0x2d) > with nroff in an UTF-8 locale (i.e. without -T or with -Tutf8)? >From font/devascii/R, you see that in -Tascii mode, all of the following glyph names map to

[Groff] ASCII dash in UTF-8 locale

2015-01-23 Thread Carsten Kunze
Hello, is there a way (except \N'45') to output an ASCII dash (0x2d) with nroff in an UTF-8 locale (i.e. without -T or with -Tutf8)? I want to copy command lines from nroff output into a xterm, but the shell complains about the '-' which is not 0x2d. E.g. mandoc(1) does output 0x2d for '\-' an