Thanks, Ralph.
On Wed, 2013-01-23 at 22:22 +, Ralph Corderoy wrote:
> That thread is split over two months in the archives.
>
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/groff/2009-03/msg00042.html
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/groff/2009-04/msg2.html
>
FWIW, here's how LaTeX doe
I would like to revisit a topic that has come up from time to time over
the years but really has not been solved. That is wrapping text around
figures and their captions. I write and submit a lot of proposals that
unfortunately have severe page limits. Using PSPIC for the figure and
caption in a
I've been using troff for over 25 years (most recently as groff), and I
still can get nearly any sort of text to jump through hoops.
Unfortunately, the professional journals do not accept troff source.
Invariably, they accept Word, WP and TeX, and while I am have OK skills
with the former two, they
On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 07:41 +0200, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
> Frank, you still should file a bug report to the Adobe people
> w.r.t. the incorrect binary section markers...
And what exactly is the bug? I can get this fixed, since a very good
friend of mine led the Acrobat development. Indeed, I w
> I pretty routinely use eps2eps to "clean up" EPS files created by Acrobat or
> Adobe Illustrator. This seems often to be required for Ghostscript to be
> happy, at least. Maybe this will help with your EPS files as well.
I didn't see this until today, since I was not copied on the message. R
On Fri, 2007-10-19 at 09:45 +0100, Ralph Corderoy wrote:
> What's the output of
>
> sed 9q figure9-acrobat.eps
>
pinot% sed 9q figure9-acrobat.eps
%!PS-Adobe-3.1 EPSF-3.0
%ADO_DSC_Encoding: Windows Roman
%%Title: figure9.pdf
%%Creator: Adobe Acrobat 8.0
%%For: Administrator
%%CreationDate:
On Thu, 2007-10-18 at 08:30 +0200, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
> > Here's the (long) output:
> >
> > 7:%%BoundingBox: 0 0 536 152
>
> It contains a correct bounding box, and groff loads this correctly
> (this is, I don't get the bounding box error you've reported).
I noticed that too. However, when
On Thu, 2007-10-18 at 00:15 +0100, Ralph Corderoy wrote:
> That's fair enough, but might just a few pertinent lines of the EPS file
> be sufficient to aid debugging? I'm thinking
>
> $ date | groff >foo.ps
> $ ps2epsi foo.ps
> $ egrep -n '^%[!%]' foo.epsi
>
Here's the (long) ou
On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 20:00 +0200, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
> > > Well, an EPS file without a bounding box is invalid. groff is
> > > right in rejecting it.
> >
> > Very odd that Acrobat does this (this is version 8 Professional).
>
> Of course, there might be something in Acrobat's output which g
On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 19:28 +0200, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
> Well, an EPS file without a bounding box is invalid. groff is right
> in rejecting it.
>
Very odd that Acrobat does this (this is version 8 Professional). I
will have to check whether there are options that I overlooked. Adobe
usuall
On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 19:03 +0200, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
> > Any idea why groff could not accept an eps file generated by
> > Acrobat? I would have thought that Adobe's own product would turn
> > out proper code.
>
> Example, please.
The only one I have at the moment is highly proprietary. Let
On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 13:39 +0200, Gunnar Ritter wrote:
> I am not a graphics expert, but from what I have read,
> it is not recommendable to start with JPEG images due
> to their lossy compression. For best results, images
> should not be converted to JPEG until all processing
> has been perform
On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 13:10 +0200, Rüdiger Härtel wrote:
> > Well, in the most recent example, I used OO.o draw to combine three .jpg
> > images into a single file after cropping them with gimp. These came
> > from a colleague's CAD program -- I could start with a different format,
> > but JPEGs
On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 07:52 +0200, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
> What difficulties do you have?
Well, in the most recent example, I used OO.o draw to combine three .jpg
images into a single file after cropping them with gimp. These came
from a colleague's CAD program -- I could start with a differe
What image formats can be used with groff? To date, I have used
encapsulated Postscript (.eps) and PSPIC with the -ms macro package, but
I am having increasing difficulty doing the conversion of some complex
images to eps. Are there alternatives that can be used,
like .png, .ps, .jpg or others?
On Fri, 2007-08-10 at 08:31 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Is anyone aware of a eqn plugin for Word? Or something like it?
> >
> Also, WordPerfect had a text-based equation editor which was very
> close to basic eqn, and produced excellent results (as far as it
> went). I used to write a l
On Sat, 2007-08-11 at 08:13 -0400, Larry Kollar wrote:
> If the equations aren't changing a lot, you could try this:
>
> eqn -> groff -> eps2eps
>
> I do this with tables that I have to rotate for a large document,
> adding a "psrotate" to the chain.
Too soon to tell how many there will be.
On Fri, 2007-08-10 at 12:31 +0200, Joerg van den Hoff wrote:
> a few months ago there was some traffic on this list in the context of
> e. raymonds efforts of converting manpages with his doclifter. he contributed
> a
> modification to `eqn' which adds a new MathML device so that `eqn' can emit
On Fri, 2007-08-10 at 17:54 +0100, Ralph Corderoy wrote:
> Have you considered Abiword instead? Cross-platform. Source available.
> Apparently it has an equation editor.
>
> http://www.abisource.com/
> http://cleardefinition.com/oss/abi/blog/2006/09/13/equation-editor-links/
>
> Never
On Fri, 2007-08-10 at 08:53 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Is anyone aware of a eqn plugin for Word? Or something like it?
> "The Equation Editor included with Word and WordPerfect
>is a watered down version of the full MathType editor
>by Design Science. There are many more bells
I am writing a highly-technical review article with a colleague who
knows only MS Word on the Mac (and so is not particularly
computer-savvy). I've agreed to use Word, for which I don't much care,
but it seems to be the only way to go at the moment. Of course I am
doing the parts that have the he
On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 17:08 -0400, M Bianchi wrote:
> so presumably
> .EQ
> delim &&
> .EN
>
> allows one to use $10 \[mu] &alpha sub i& in line.
That's interesting. As a rule I avoid using "&" since it has Unix
meaning. Apparently it has none to groff. That's good t
On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 19:41 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> No problem: Just use \[Do] = \(Do for the dollar sign in text,
> and keep $$ for inline equations! (This is what I always do.
> Mind you, I have less use for $$ as money than for $$ in eqn.
> It's different with ££ of course ... ).
Tha
I am submitting a proposal that contains equations, tables and US $
signs. What character would list members suggest I use for in-line
equations? The # character is used internally within tbl and I have
equations in tables so I cannot use #. I would like to print $ (my
usual eqn choice) because
On Sat, 2007-03-17 at 22:13 +0100, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
> > Out of curiosity, what do you use to process references with groff?
> > Or is that not something you do?
>
> I don't do it.
OK -- that makes sense.
For context, the average proposal I submit has about 60 references (and
I submit five
On Sat, 2007-03-17 at 21:31 +0100, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
> There's only the man page, nothing else :-( Since I'm not an active
> user of refer, it's hard to me to write something better. Volunteers
> welcome...
>
Out of curiosity, what do you use to process references with groff? Or
is that not
Thanks for the ACM macros -- I will check to see if that style is close
to what is needed.
If there are indeed a few of these around, I'd be happy to collect them
and make them easily available on the web.
Frank
> Here are some on-line resources beyond the Man entry for refer:
[snip]
Thanks, but these are not at all what I'm looking for. The two Lesk
references (which I have read) are part of my dog-eared Version 7
manual; the Christian reference is pretty low-level.
What I'm after is a reference tha
First, thank you for the detailed reply.
On Thu, 2007-03-15 at 16:44 +0100, Joerg van den Hoff wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 02:28:15PM -0700, Frank Jahnke wrote:
> > I am trying to cast references from refer into the format requested by a
> > particular journal. Is there a pla
I am trying to cast references from refer into the format requested by a
particular journal. My old Bell Labs documentation on refer does not
have much information on the topic, and sadly the man page is nearly
incomprehensible to me. Is there a place where better documentation can
be found?
Wha
> I wonder, though, about the divide-by-zero errors. It sounds to me
> like something important isn't right. Can you recompile the
> CVS version of groff and work with it?
I can recompile, as long as the code is not too specific for Linux. I use
FreeBSD.
I think your observation that somethin
On Mon, 2007-03-12 at 11:16 -0400, Eric S. Raymond wrote:
> The good news is that there is probably a solution for you.
>
> The bad news is that it requires two pieces of software not yet released.
>
> If you run the development version of my doclifter program with CVS groff,
> you should be ab
I have a paper set in groff, and I wish to submit it to a journal for
publication. Their standard line is to submit in DOC or RTF formats;
needless to say, that is not helpful, particularly since it is full of
differential equations.
One option that I tried is to use the -Thtml flag to convert th
On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 21:44 +0200, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
> Friends, since I don't use refer, I have no real chance by myself to
> improve the documentation. I would be *really* glad if people work on
> this, probably providing a sample document also which shows most of
> the possible effects.
>
On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 14:22 +0200, Joerg van den Hoff wrote:
> yes, their is a way (and to be fair, it _is_ in the manpage of refer
> and one can understand that passage without making it a project of it's
> own -- which is not the case with other parts of the manpage,
> I'm afraid :-) ):
Well,
I use refer a lot to process references in [gt]roff. I have been unable
to figure out how to handle the groupings of references. An example
would be:
The flux capacitor has been studied widely [7-23] after the pioneering
work of Smith [11-15]...
where those references are listed at the end of t
On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 09:28 +, Gaius Mulley wrote:
> Larry Kollar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Frank Jahnke wrote:
> >
> > > How does one go about wrapping text around pictures that do not occupy
> > > the entire line width? PSPIC does not seem to do
On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 09:58 +, Gaius Mulley wrote:
> F
>
> well the -mwww doesn't do anything unless requested (iirc). So you
> can ignore all macros within -mwww except the MPIMG macro - worth
> taking a look imho (even if you discard it later). It might save some
> time..
Ah, so you can us
On Wed, 2005-08-17 at 14:53 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> This is a quick reply -- there's a better approach (using the
> 'special' command in eqn) but it would take me a little longer
> to work out details.
>
> Try the following, or some variant of it:
>
> Hoping this helps,
> Best wi
Although I'm pretty proficient at eqn, I've never figured out how one
makes the symbol for a surface integral. This looks like a regular
integral, but it has an open circle in the middle of it. How might I do
so? Thanks in advance!
Frank
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