Re: [Groff] Permissible characters for hyphenation

2016-05-30 Thread Steffen (Daode) Nurpmeso
Stephen Berman wrote: |Does groff permit characters besides hyphen-minus (ASCII 45) and soft |hyphen (octal 255) for displaying hyphenation in man pages? I'm asking I have been convinced that soft hyphen is a control character and not something visual, it should be used as a «break-indicator»

Re: [Groff] horizontal trap

2016-01-01 Thread Daode
Happy new (Christian++) year everybody. Tadziu Hoffmann wrote: |> [...] and also supports five different builtin styles for |> verbatim output instead of only a silly numbered one. | |Okay, I'm curious. What different styles apart from numbering |could there possibly be? (I can't think of

Re: [Groff] The future redux

2014-02-26 Thread Daode
Volker Wolfram wrote: |Hi all groffers, | |in fact I'm a newbie on groff tools and macros. But these \ |tools are the BEST I've used EVER. I enjoy groff so much, I've developed my I fully agree -- after almost going stony because of loosing system content _and_ the backups (forgotten PGP pass

Re: [Groff] [PATCH] Use bash for several contrib scripts

2014-01-03 Thread Daode
Doug McIlroy wrote: |I must be missing something in the discussion about random |numbers. Why does groff need them? In the offered example |tmp="$d/eqn2graph$groff_rand" |the "random number" serves only to make a (supposedly) unique |name. But of course, if the number is truly random, it

Re: [Groff] Fw: Generating ChangeLog files.

2014-01-03 Thread Daode
Werner LEMBERG wrote: |Regarding the abandoning of ChangeLog files: There is an interesting |thread right now about this topic in the emacs-devel mailing list. |Attached you can find one of the messages, and I agree with Eli. |However, other people might think differently... I never used Chan

[Groff] Fwd: Re: Re: [PATCH] Use bash for several contrib scripts

2014-01-02 Thread Daode
(blush) really nice bicycles.. Original Message Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 09:49:27 -0500 From: Mike Bianchi To: Steffen Nurpmeso Subject: Re: Re: [Groff] [PATCH] Use bash for several contrib scripts On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 03:03:48PM +0100, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: > : > Imh

Re: [Groff] [PATCH] Use bash for several contrib scripts

2014-01-02 Thread Daode
Ralph Corderoy wrote: |Hi Steffen, | |> I'd really rather do something like the below instead. |... |> -tmp=$d/eqn2graph$$-$RANDOM |> +tmp=$d/eqn2graph$$-${RANDOM:-${$}} | |That's assuming the environment doesn't contain a RANDOM from somewhere. ph! |:-) | |Cheers, Ralph.

Re: [Groff] [PATCH] Use bash for several contrib scripts

2014-01-02 Thread Daode
Colin Watson wrote: |I suppose it isn't a fatal incompatibility, since $RANDOM just expands |to the empty string on other shells and mkdir will probably fail; maybe |we could just leave it alone since the above is really no better than |that.[.] yes of course. It was just me seeing /bin/bash,

Re: [Groff] [PATCH] Use bash for several contrib scripts

2014-01-02 Thread Daode
Happy new year. Colin Watson wrote: |+2014-01-02 Colin Watson |+ |+ * contrib/eqn2graph/eqn2graph.sh: Use bash rather than sh; $RANDOM |+ is a bashism. |+ * contrib/grap2graph/grap2graph.sh: Likewise. |+ * contrib/pic2graph/pic2graph.sh: Likewise. I'd really rather do so

Re: [Groff] Second try at git conversion

2013-12-24 Thread Daode
Werner LEMBERG wrote: |> (I've mailed sinuhe AT gnu.org to update the webpage.) | |Anyways, I've updated the web page. It won't win a beauty contest, |but the info should be accurate now. It seems you sometimes have to deal with asholes in such an unlimited forum. ...and a beer in a tree...

Re: [Groff] Second try at git conversion

2013-12-23 Thread Daode
Heinz-Jürgen Oertel wrote: |Am Sonntag, 22. Dezember 2013, 18:34:01 schrieb Steffen Daode Nurpmeso: |> Heinz-Jürgen Oertel wrote: |>|What would be the repository address for a git clone? |> |> git://git.savannah.gnu.org/groff.git | |all steps OK Good! (I've mailed sin

Re: [Groff] Second try at git conversion

2013-12-22 Thread Daode
Heinz-Jürgen Oertel wrote: |What would be the repository address for a git clone? git://git.savannah.gnu.org/groff.git The webpage still mentions CVS only. Ciao, --steffen

Re: [Groff] Help with crop marks code

2013-11-28 Thread Daode
Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote: |Searching for how implement crop marks with groff I've found this: [.] |I would appreciate some clue or a point to some documentation. Well i have no crop marks but used "fold marks" for letters and when punchers had to be adjusted, but you can paint whatever

[Groff] cvs(1) cannot be accessed (with old clients?)

2013-04-29 Thread Daode
Hello, i couldn't update my repo: AuthReply: cvs: unrecognized option '--allow-root-regexp=^/srv/cvs/sources/.*$' What can be done about that? --steffen

Re: [Groff] autoconf and autoreconf

2013-04-13 Thread Daode
Keith Marshall wrote: |On 13/04/13 14:52, Werner LEMBERG wrote: |>> Any comments? | |Some projects do commit configure, others don't. IMO, it is better if |it is *not* committed, but IIRC it has been there, in groff's CVS, for |as long as I've been associated with the project. I would be

Re: [Groff] hyphen.de

2013-02-12 Thread Daode
I'm talking about the attached version of the hyphenation rules. --steffen hyphen.de.gz Description: GNU Zip compressed data

[Groff] hyphen.de

2013-02-12 Thread Daode
Hello, i'm looking at a rather current (Add a shell command to the file MANIFEST.., 2013-01-24) version of the GNU (t)roff repo and i see that hyphen.de was imported into groff: Author: wl Date: 2006-12-19 08:02:52 + Add support for German. For activation, simply use -mde or -m

Re: [Groff] GPL or FDL

2013-01-26 Thread Daode
Werner LEMBERG wrote: |Macros called with \* is indeed nothing new. However, having |arguments like | | \*[foo arg1 arg2 ...] | |is what I've added some years ago. It'll allow me to rewrite terrible code. |Werner --steffen

Re: [Groff] GPL or FDL

2013-01-26 Thread Daode
Tadziu Hoffmann wrote: |[snip] |> do i have to change my version check [...] to 1.20 for this to work? | |This has worked for ages already in Unix troff (because macros and |strings share the same namespace), and my guess is in groff as well. |It might just not have been documented. It defi

Re: [Groff] GPL or FDL

2013-01-26 Thread Daode
Werner LEMBERG wrote: |> i.e., let me write \*[ITEM] even if that was a macro not a string. |> (Or has something adorable happened since then.) | |I don't understand your (probably sarcastic?) comment. That \*[ITEM] |can call either a macro or a string is a feature which can be useful |some

Re: [Groff] GPL or FDL

2013-01-25 Thread Daode
"Bernd Warken" wrote: |I will not follow that line. A roff that accepts only 2-letter-macros |today has no chance to survive. | |The original RUNOFF had very long command names, for example |.ADJUST | |Each command had an abbreviation of 2 letters, with the lang name as the |standard. But