On Mon, Mar 24, 2025 at 14:59:04 -0500, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> > One can't read or edit PDF. (I do both.)
>
> You mean with a text editor? Conceded. Partially. I think it's
> in a compressed form by default, but you can turn that off and get
> more human-readable output.
>
> A quick exp
Hi Jamenson,
At 2025-03-24T18:29:35-0300, Jamenson Espindula wrote:
> Yes, I am aware of the 'po4a' (PO for anything) tool. Unfortunately,
> 'po4a' does not gettext manpages very well. I tried to gettext the GNU
> Bash manual page and 'po4a' did fail with no results at all. To be
> clear, I transc
Hi Branden,
> I think this is due to its Perl dependency more than any antipathy toward
> PDF.
That's still a valid reason to avoid fiddling with defaults needlessly,
IMHO.
You mean with a text editor? Conceded. Partially. I think [PDF] is in a
> compressed form by default, but you can turn th
> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2025 12:19:32 +
> From: Colin Watson
> To: groff@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Translating manpages into several idioms (gettextization)
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> Are you aware of po4a? It has its problems, but it's the best to
Hi Doug, Damian, and Jon,
At 2025-03-24T11:33:53-0400, Douglas McIlroy wrote:
> I have qualms about changing the default output device.
So do I! I have no plans to do it for the next release, no desire to do
it before we have solid PDF support in groff's ms(7), me(7), and mm(7),
and by the time
On Mon, 24 Mar 2025, Douglas McIlroy wrote:
I have qualms about changing the default output device.
I concur. For all of Doug's reasons.
It would break a lot of makefiles.
Some distributors of groff exclude gropdf.
One can't read or edit PDF. (I do both.)
PDFPIC is a horror.
Thanks - Damia
>
> I have qualms about changing the default output device.
Isn't this what the GROFF_TYPESETTER environment variable is for, though?
So that users can override defaults they deem to be unintuitive?
Changing defaults shouldn't be done willy-nilly, IMHO. I'm used to
expecting PostScript output by
I have qualms about changing the default output device.
It would break a lot of makefiles.
Some distributors of groff exclude gropdf.
One can't read or edit PDF. (I do both.)
PDFPIC is a horror.
I agree that current custom favors PDF.
So I'd welcome palliative advice about my worries.
Doug
On Sun, Mar 23, 2025 at 06:06:21PM -0300, Jamenson Espindula wrote:
Unfortunately, the tool I am using to extract the strings (process
known as 'gettextization') does not work very well with certain
manpages, i.e. it does not recognize some kinds of markups.
So, I had the idea of sending you, GN
