Re: [TUHS] Re: symbols in eqnchar

2023-07-05 Thread Damian McGuckin
Note that as made available in the open-sourced DWB 3.3, 'eqnchar' is a valid troff file. It contains .EQ and .EN and troff comments, much like groff's own eqnrc. So technically, it would fail syntacially in an EQN 'include' statement with an error along the lines of nested .EQ/.EN blocks. So

Re: a morsel of groff 1.23.0 status

2023-07-05 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> May I be excused some pride in our delivery of over 400 bug >> fixes and 150 automated tests? > > Fully justified. I'm glad it's finally out in the world. Thank you > for your tireless work in making groff more featureful, more > portable, better documented, and less buggy. Yeah, c

Re: a morsel of groff 1.23.0 status

2023-07-05 Thread Robert Goulding via
As an ordinary user and lurker on this list, it has been extraordinary to watch this release come together. Congratulations! Robert Goulding Sent from my phone On Wed, Jul 5, 2023, 10:36 PM Steve Izma wrote: > On Wed, Jul 05, 2023 at 07:31:50PM -0500, Dave Kemper wrote: > > Subject: Re: a morse

Re: a morsel of groff 1.23.0 status

2023-07-05 Thread Steve Izma
On Wed, Jul 05, 2023 at 07:31:50PM -0500, Dave Kemper wrote: > Subject: Re: a morsel of groff 1.23.0 status > > On 7/5/23, G. Branden Robinson wrote: > > May I be excused some > > pride in our delivery of over 400 bug fixes and 150 automated tests? > > Fully justified. I'm glad it's fin

Re: [TUHS] Re: symbols in eqnchar

2023-07-05 Thread Damian McGuckin
Hi Branden, On Wed, 5 Jul 2023, G. Branden Robinson wrote: In your new eqn user's guide, you might spell out the fact that "wig" is short for "wiggle". My brain failed to come up with that expansion, and struggled to figure out how characterizing a tilde as a "wig" over another glyph was e

Re: a morsel of groff 1.23.0 status

2023-07-05 Thread Peter Schaffter
On Wed, Jul 05, 2023, Dave Kemper wrote: > On 7/5/23, G. Branden Robinson wrote: > > May I be excused some > > pride in our delivery of over 400 bug fixes and 150 automated tests? > > Fully justified. I'm glad it's finally out in the world. Thank you > for your tireless work in making g

Re: The mate of plus or minus - \(+- or +- - i.e. \(-+ or -+

2023-07-05 Thread Dave Kemper
On 7/5/23, Damian McGuckin wrote: > Looking at the ticket, I understand why my search did not bring it up. Yeah, it's rather light on info itself. The email thread it points to is plenty detailed, but that won't help with a search. I had an advantage in finding it because I faintly recalled tha

Re: [TUHS] Re: symbols in eqnchar

2023-07-05 Thread G. Branden Robinson
Hi Damian, At 2023-07-06T05:56:40+1000, Damian McGuckin wrote: > On Wed, 5 Jul 2023, G. Branden Robinson wrote: > > > > As far as I can tell, the EQN > > > > > > include > > > > > > does not honour the GROFF_TMAC_PATH search path. I think I would > > > to see it default to > > > > > > . :

Re: a morsel of groff 1.23.0 status

2023-07-05 Thread Dave Kemper
On 7/5/23, G. Branden Robinson wrote: > May I be excused some > pride in our delivery of over 400 bug fixes and 150 automated tests? Fully justified. I'm glad it's finally out in the world. Thank you for your tireless work in making groff more featureful, more portable, better documente

Re: The mate of plus or minus - \(+- or +- - i.e. \(-+ or -+

2023-07-05 Thread Damian McGuckin
On Wed, 5 Jul 2023, Dave Kemper wrote: Should I put this into Savannah? Sure. This has come up before.[1] [1] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/groff/2022-03/msg00016.html It even has a Savannah ticket already: http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?62932 Silly me Damian, Savannah lets you add

Re: a morsel of groff 1.23.0 status

2023-07-05 Thread G. Branden Robinson
At 2023-07-05T23:31:54+0200, Bertrand Garrigues wrote: > I've pushed tag 1.23.0 and published the archive on > https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/groff/ Rock and roll, and good times! > For the announcement email I'll send the mail to info-...@gnu.org as you > don't have the official maintainer title yet.

Re: a morsel of groff 1.23.0 status

2023-07-05 Thread Bertrand Garrigues
Hi Branden, On dim., juil. 02 2023 at 01:09:41 , "G. Branden Robinson" wrote: > At 2023-07-02T19:44:32+0200, Bertrand Garrigues wrote: >> If no, I'll tag the official 1.23.0 on the latest sha >> (198346d187de9e340bbf9d4f80c2dc4d42f5f74e), in a few days (let's say >> in 2-3 days). > > Great news-

Re: The mate of plus or minus - \(+- or +- - i.e. \(-+ or -+

2023-07-05 Thread Dave Kemper
On 7/5/23, G. Branden Robinson wrote: > At 2023-07-05T17:35:05+1000, Damian McGuckin wrote: >> The groff_char(7) special character \(-+ which if read out loud would >> be "minus or plus" does not work. I only use that in an equation and >> in EQN, I can get around it by defining >> >> define

Re: [TUHS] Re: symbols in eqnchar

2023-07-05 Thread Damian McGuckin
Hi Branden, On Wed, 5 Jul 2023, G. Branden Robinson wrote: As far as I can tell, the EQN include does not honour the GROFF_TMAC_PATH search path. I think I would to see it default to . : the site-tmac directory : the standard tmac directory but that might be a dumb idea. W

Re: [TUHS] Re: symbols in eqnchar

2023-07-05 Thread Damian McGuckin
Hi Branden, On Wed, 5 Jul 2023, G. Branden Robinson wrote: I think not, and in fact I have a notion rumbling around in my head to move many/all of the predefined macros into "eqnrc" to make it more straightforward for people to (1) see how they're defined; (2) replace them; and (3) develop th

Re: The mate of plus or minus - \(+- or +- - i.e. \(-+ or -+

2023-07-05 Thread Damian McGuckin
On Wed, 5 Jul 2023, G. Branden Robinson wrote: At 2023-07-05T17:35:05+1000, Damian McGuckin wrote: The groff_char(7) special character \(-+ which if read out loud would be "minus or plus" does not work. I only use that in an equation and in EQN, I can get around it by defining define -

Re: [TUHS] Re: symbols in eqnchar

2023-07-05 Thread G. Branden Robinson
Hi Damian, At 2023-07-05T14:25:01+1000, Damian McGuckin wrote: > Should I advocate for the 'eqnchar' symbols to be automatically > included at 'eqn' startup. After all, namespace pollution for those > who need none of those symbols is a bad thing. I think not, and in fact I have a notion rumbling

Re: The mate of plus or minus - \(+- or +- - i.e. \(-+ or -+

2023-07-05 Thread G. Branden Robinson
Hi Damian, At 2023-07-05T17:35:05+1000, Damian McGuckin wrote: > The groff_char(7) special character \(-+ which if read out loud would > be "minus or plus" does not work. I only use that in an equation and > in EQN, I can get around it by defining > > define -+ % { + back 76 up 32 - } % >

The mate of plus or minus - \(+- or +- - i.e. \(-+ or -+

2023-07-05 Thread Damian McGuckin
The groff_char(7) special character \(-+ which if read out loud would be "minus or plus" does not work. I only use that in an equation and in EQN, I can get around it by defining define -+ % { + back 76 up 32 - } % so it is not stopping me doing anything. Should I put this into Sava