Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-10 Thread hbezemer--- via
Damian McGuckin wrote: > On Wed, 10 Aug 2022, Larry McVoy wrote: > > > Well my papers are copyright sun, sgi, google, bitmover, and there has > > been enough time passed that nobody cares any more. > > Journals have a long memory unfortunately. I think Elsevier are looking to > waive copyrigh

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-10 Thread hbezemer--- via
Thank you Robert! I've downloaded the documents and will look into them. Hans Robert Marks wrote: > Following suggestions from hbeze...@kliksafe.nl and Larry McVoy, > I have put the source file (and the latest PDF output) in a directory, at > https://www.agsm.edu.au/bobm/groff/ > > There are

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-10 Thread G. Branden Robinson
At 2022-08-11T12:31:51+1000, Damian McGuckin wrote: > I use MM as a macro package. Is that still relevant to enough people? I think so. People pop up out of nowhere from time to time who use it, and groff's implementation is not "deprecated" or anything like that. In fact, recently, I've begun f

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-10 Thread Damian McGuckin
On Wed, 10 Aug 2022, Larry McVoy wrote: Well my papers are copyright sun, sgi, google, bitmover, and there has been enough time passed that nobody cares any more. Journals have a long memory unfortunately. I think Elsevier are looking to waive copyright on their 40 year old papers and prior s

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-10 Thread Larry McVoy
On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 12:31:51PM +1000, Damian McGuckin wrote: > On Wed, 10 Aug 2022, Larry McVoy wrote: > > >I emailed ra...@inputplus.co.uk who owns troff.org to see if he wanted > >to host papers. troff.org looks pretty dead so we shall see. If he is > >still there, that would be a great pl

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-10 Thread Larry McVoy
On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 09:29:29PM -0500, Dave Kemper wrote: > On 8/10/22, Damian McGuckin wrote: > > Do we just send them as attachments and let some poor bunny collate them? > > I do not want to overburden somebody limke Branden. How do we make them > > available? > > The groff examples reposit

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-10 Thread Damian McGuckin
On Wed, 10 Aug 2022, Larry McVoy wrote: I emailed ra...@inputplus.co.uk who owns troff.org to see if he wanted to host papers. troff.org looks pretty dead so we shall see. If he is still there, that would be a great place to host example papers. One issue is that most of my papers are either

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-10 Thread Dave Kemper
On 8/10/22, Damian McGuckin wrote: > Do we just send them as attachments and let some poor bunny collate them? > I do not want to overburden somebody limke Branden. How do we make them > available? The groff examples repository (http://www.froude.eu/groff/) so far has only snippets showing how to

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-10 Thread Larry McVoy
I emailed ra...@inputplus.co.uk who owns troff.org to see if he wanted to host papers. troff.org looks pretty dead so we shall see. If he is still there, that would be a great place to host example papers. On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 11:32:24AM +1000, Damian McGuckin wrote: > On Wed, 10 Aug 2022, La

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-10 Thread Damian McGuckin
On Wed, 10 Aug 2022, Larry McVoy wrote: I'm a big fan of sharing sources to papers done in troff. I've learned a lot from reading those. Do we just send them as attachments and let some poor bunny collate them? I do not want to overburden somebody limke Branden. How do we make them availabl

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-10 Thread Robert Marks
Following suggestions from hbeze...@kliksafe.nl and Larry McVoy, I have put the source file (and the latest PDF output) in a directory, at https://www.agsm.edu.au/bobm/groff/ There are some comments to myself, and some std output diagnostics, and I have not included the smart quotes macro or the d

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-10 Thread Larry McVoy
I'm a big fan of sharing sources to papers done in troff. I've learned a lot from reading those. On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 10:22:52AM +0200, hbezemer--- via wrote: > Dear Robert, > > Robert Marks wrote: > > > More recently ??? last year in fact ??? as the Editor I used troff to set > > the > >

Re: Greek letters not slanted in -Tps eqn output

2022-08-10 Thread joerg van den hoff
On 09.08.22 21:38, G. Branden Robinson wrote: [looping in groff@ again due to a shift in discussion focus to development] At 2022-08-09T19:14:25+0200, joerg van den hoff wrote: On 09.08.22 17:05, Deri wrote: groff and grops can find the SS file, which gives the widths of the SS glyphs, but

Re: Greek letters not slanted in -Tps eqn output

2022-08-10 Thread joerg van den hoff
On 10.08.22 01:55, Deri wrote: ok, in this case, yes. I would have expected the relative movement being relative to the fraction bar itself, but that's obviously not what eqn does. This part I cannot speak to, as I have only barely begun coping with GNU eqn's source code. If someone else kno

Re: using groff/troff in producing academic journals

2022-08-10 Thread hbezemer--- via
Dear Robert, Robert Marks wrote: > More recently ??? last year in fact ??? as the Editor I used troff to set the > text for an especially mathematical paper in the Journal and Proceedings of > the Royal Society of New South Wales (Sydney). See the paper, > Basil Hiley. > The Moyal-Dirac controv